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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Vlad1234
25 Mar 2022  #6601

economy strangled by mafias that shy away from complex fields that they can't run because they don't want to lose power to nerds

What prevents nerds to organize something on their own? Communism?

Tacitus
25 Mar 2022  #6602

to nationalize property of many foreign companies in Russia

I doubt the Russian government would be that stupid. If they did that, they would get foreign investors for decades when the war is over.

Cojestdocholery
25 Mar 2022  #6603

What prevents nerds to organize something on their own?

Can't be bothered like you and rather leave Russia than deal with mafias corrupt government offcials and all that.
By the way if Russia sells it wheat to Africa good on them.

Vlad1234
25 Mar 2022  #6604

Russia Lays Groundwork For Nationalizing Foreign Companies Amid Fallout From Ukraine War

rferl.org/a/russia-nationalize-foreign-companies/31746695.html

Miloslaw
25 Mar 2022  #6605

Communism?

Russia already tried that.
It didn't work out too well...... what is the point of.trying again?
Why not try something untried and unheard of in Russia?
Freedom, democracy, and capitalism without traditional Russian corruption?

Vlad1234
25 Mar 2022  #6606

leave Russia than deal with mafias corrupt government offcials

This is one interesting theory, popular in the Western media. Blame all economic problems in Eastern Europe on corruption. But on other hand Russia has cheap workforce and not too high taxes. Could you explaine how corruption completely halts all the economic growth?

Miloslaw
25 Mar 2022  #6607

Could you explaine how corruption completely halts all the economic growt

If you are talking about Russia that is because that corruption leads to a lack of trust and a lack of investment.
But all that talk is too late now.
Unless Russia changes and soon.
They will be cut off for generations.

pawian
25 Mar 2022  #6608

Russian troops now turn against their own commanders, who lead them into slaughter

While Ukrainians have deleted another savage general. It seems they have developed a unique missile which is guided to hit a target festooned with military medals. I had no idea such missiles are produced in Ukraine. Amazing.


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Miloslaw
25 Mar 2022  #6609

It seems they have developed a unique missile

Those missiles have come from the USA and UK.
The intelligent way that they have been used is 100% Ukrainian :-)

Vlad1234
25 Mar 2022  #6610

corruption leads to a lack of trust and a lack of investment.

How exactly? What corruptioners are doing?

Miloslaw
25 Mar 2022  #6611

Are you blind?

I live in London and have seen the obscene wealth of the corrupt Russians here.
We British have been guilty of turning a blind eye to this for many years and taking that filthy money.
The invasion of Ukraine changed all that.
This is a new world order and Russia will never be a part of it unless it accepts massive change.

PolAmKrakow
25 Mar 2022  #6612

US farmers already preparing to plant wheat in fields they were paid to leave empty of crops. USA farms are subsidized and the government paid them in the past to limit the amount of wheat they grew, in order to raise prices. Now those same subsidies will be used to give farms the ability to make up for wheat production that is lost. Stabilizing prices by fall without lost production. Russian war brings back American wheat production, another unintended circumstance.

Vlad1234
25 Mar 2022  #6613

I live in London and have seen the obscene wealth of the corrupt Russians

Majority of them are just private owners officially, not government officials.

GefreiterKania
26 Mar 2022  #6614

Russia will now concentrate on fully securing Donbass, to strenghten its position before peace negotiations. This is confirmed by both Pentagon and Russian army command...

onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/wojna-rosja-ukraina-zaskakujaca-zmiana-rosyjskiej-strategii-w-ukrainie/64chp0f,79cfc278

...this is nothing else than admitting defeat. Of course, I'm very happy about the Ukrainian victory but also a bit (just a little) sad to see the extent of Russian fall. Yes, it is a sign of historical justice, yes - they brought it all on themselves, yes - that's what no integrity or morals do to a nation, but still such ridiculous discredit, shame and disgrace is not a pleasure to watch. They could have fallen with more class :-/ Ah, well...

Pinching Pete
26 Mar 2022  #6615

(just a little) sad to see the extent of Russian fall.

You're saddened by this? One of the most dangerous regime's ever is a shadow of itself now. It's a huge plus for Europe and NATO. Russia can't intimidate it's neighbors now.

GefreiterKania
26 Mar 2022  #6616

@Pinching Pete

Of course it's a huge plus. But still, to see your greatest enemy, country that very recently - through Putin's ideologues like Dugin - denied you the very right to existence, tried to intimidate you and the entire world with nuclear weapons, organised energy blackmail against you (in cooperation with Germany), put Iskander rockets and nuclear weapons right next to your borders, concentrated troops in Królewiec district on an unseen scale, conducted military manouvers close to your borders with simulation of nuclear attack on you etc. etc. - to see such enemy fall like a rag doll to a relatively new country, with post-Soviet economy and high levels of corruption of their own, is a sad sight to behold. :-/

I don't know if you catch my drift, but here in Poland we feel like... how to put it... being afraid for so many years of a big scary lion, which in 29 days turned out to be just a small retarded pussy cat. :-/

Crow
26 Mar 2022  #6617

People, people. Not that I didn`t invest my time in you and you are still there with your mind set.

You really think Uni-Polar world can prevail and continue? You believe in dollar`s dominance? In eur`s dominance? In a world where Russia serve as resource base and China as giant factory so you can live nicely? You people really think that systemic nazism in Ukraine, western Europe, in EU countries can win? Do you even know what are forms of expression of it? You think that NATO can shape the world?

If so, you are victims of your own imagination and you would wake up in a rapidly changing world.

GefreiterKania
26 Mar 2022  #6618

@Crow

But that's exactly what Russian invasion of Ukraine "accomplished": Russia turning into a resource base for ever stronger China, and strengthening of the United States. There are only two major winners of this war: USA (which is a good thing) and China (which is not necessarily a good thing). The one, minor winner, is Ukraine, as they will now be accepted as part of the western world and alliance, which will result in drastic improvement of their level of life and their country's international position.

This war, and the ridiculously shameful fall of Russia, killed all hope of Multi-Polar world. Putin with the epic failure of his "special operation" created a Bi-Polar world, with only two superpowers - USA and China - for foreseeable future.

So thank you, Mr Putin, for sacrificing your army to change the world from Uni-Polar into Bi-Polar. I wonder how the Chinese managed to convince Putin to conduct the invasion. Such a masterful manipulation. Oh, well - they are an ancient civilisation after all, and ardent Wei Chi players, so they are used to planning long-term strategy.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Mar 2022  #6619

...this is nothing else than admitting defeat.

....like a sore loser....like a child who suddenly declares the toy it can't get is stupid anyhow! :)

I'm very happy about the Ukrainian victory

They awed and surprised the world! That is a total turnaround of their reputation....they won all the respect Russia lost!

GefreiterKania
26 Mar 2022  #6620

like a sore loser

Indeed. "We wanted only Donbass from the beginning - URRRRAAA!!! VICTORY!!! (...) What? Rebuilding the Russkiy Mir? Blitzkrieg? The leaked victory message? FAKE - ALL FAKE!" :)

It would, however, be advisable to notice that they haven't even taken the entire Donbass yet.

That is a total turnaround of their reputation...

Exactly - they are the third winner of this war, after USA and China.

Crow
26 Mar 2022  #6621

which will result in drastic improvement of their level of life and their country's international position.

how? western Europe does not have food, gas, oil. Ah, yes. Will be. NATO will make for it. You think Russia won`t send it to western Europe and States but to China and then China cheaply works for them all to live happily ever after?

You don`t see that Russia ruining even this mechanisms by mentioning payments in ruble. You think it won`t work? It will.

Plus, its not even started. We live in prelude.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Mar 2022  #6622

So thank you, Mr Putin, for sacrificing your army to change the world from Uni-Polar into Bi-Polar.

Who knows....maybe a uni polar world with the West ruling supreme was not the best for us either. The West was best as it had a big rival in the East...we needed to stay competetive, economically and socially!

After `89 and the profound victory of democracy and capitalism things weren't run to perfection anymore....it wasn't needed anymore. Now, with rivals again in a bi polar world we have to work harder again, to become better again. It doesn't have to be a bad thing....just think energy technology....and nobody can anylonger claim China is harmless or even friendly!

GefreiterKania
26 Mar 2022  #6623

More good news coming. It looks like Sergei Shoigu wasn't purged - he had a hear attack and is currently treated in Burdenko Main Military Clinical Hospital...

wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/news-rosyjski-minister-obrony-w-szpitalu-siergiej-szojgu-doznal-a,nId,5917557

... the idiots forgot about his age and told him the real losses of Russia in Ukraine. It had to end in heart attack.

Also, there will be a lot of moderately priced military equipment available on the market. OUG (the Organisation of Ukrainian Gypsies) has just announced that shortly after the war operations ends they will conduct a military fair with Russian equipment "acquired" by Gypsies all over Ukraine on sale...

Gypsy Fair

... I'm thinking about getting one of those Grad missile launchers for New Year's Eve fireworks display.

nobody can anylonger claim China is harmless or even friendly!

Hmm... so the Chinese are the Baddies now? Cool - further from our borders than Russia :)

Bratwurst Boy
26 Mar 2022  #6624

Hmm... so the Chinese are the baddies now?

They will be smiling when they stab you.....

GefreiterKania
26 Mar 2022  #6625

when they stab you...

I'm beginning to hate them already. And it will make me work harder to make sure the West wins :)

Welcome to bi-polar world, everyone! :)

Bratwurst Boy
26 Mar 2022  #6626

And it will make me work harder to make sure the West wins :)

Genau! :)

Maybe the West needed that rude awakening.....we have become soft pussies.....Germany at least!

Crow
26 Mar 2022  #6627

Germany at least!

Yes. That would be awakening. To learn Russia didn`t even started, Germany is awaken from within and China smile from Taiwan and Pacific.

Alien
26 Mar 2022  #6628

Joe Biden dined Polish pizza with taste. They gave him the hot one🤭🥵.

Crow
26 Mar 2022  #6629

Good thing they didn't give him beans.

mafketis
26 Mar 2022  #6630

What prevents nerds to organize something on their own?

You don't know how mafias work, do you?

Here's a comprehensive description of the situation

twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1501360272442896388


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