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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



PolAmKrakow
29 Mar 2022  #6991

@Novichok
Home is Poland. I am sending everything to friends about 15 minutes outside of Kiev. I am not a talker, I simply act. Some of the newest laser range finders and top notch camo for sniper outfits.

While I would agree the Russians are not Nazi's in the traditional sense, they act like them in many ways. In many other ways they are more brutal and simply deserve no mercy in the field.

I would also agree wars can not be won like pre 1970 with a clear winner leaving the filed. Afghanistan and Iraq are bad examples as there really was no real drive for the citizens to save their own country. Kuwait war being an exception, the US clearly won this war, and the US can do no wrong in the eye's of Kuwait citizens.

This war will be different. There will be a decisive winner, and it will be Ukraine. Russia is a mere shadow of its reputation, and should no longer be feared by anyone. They can be beaten and all things considered, they are not even a competent military any longer.

Crnogorac3
29 Mar 2022  #6992

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Confederacy of southern Russian states 😁

Crow
29 Mar 2022  #6993

One of things we learned till now, thanks to conflict in Ukraine.

Poland failed Hungary and Serbia. Officially, at least. First time in history ever that state of Poland did not coordinate itself with Serbs and Hungarians. No, not just failed. There is even sign of hostility on these two by Poland. Hostility. Let it sunk unto you. Hostility. Strange, I would say.

Is Germany more trustworthy to Poland? France? Britain? USA?

Strzelec35
29 Mar 2022  #6994

Azov is kicking a@@ and taking no names guys? guys?

youtube.com/watch?v=mluyZWL0-AI

GefreiterKania
29 Mar 2022  #6995

Robert Lewandowski will still keep supporting Ukraine, wearing blue-and-yellow captain's armband in Qatar in November.

Poland - Sweden 2:0 :)

Lewandowski 49' (pen.)
Zieliński 73'

Bratwurst Boy
29 Mar 2022  #6996

Congrats! 👍

PS: The upcoming 9th May remembrances are bound to become awkward!

Commemoration of Buchenwald liberation without Russian government officials

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/buchenwald-befreiung-gedenken-findet-ohne-russische-regierungsvertreter-statt-a-b7b6d169-1954-4c39-80ed-505c73892bf2

In April, the anniversary of the liberation of the Buchenwald and Mittelbau-Dora concentration camps is commemorated again. Representatives of Russia and Belarus are not welcome this time.

»Insufferable idea«

Receiving official representatives of the two countries at the celebrations was an "intolerable idea," said Wagner, referring to the death of Buchenwald survivor Boris Romantschenko in the Russian war of aggression in Ukraine .


I have read somewhere that Putin wanted to be done with it by then already....probably planned another Nazi-victory-parade....but that will be now only weird.......

Bobko
29 Mar 2022  #6997

@Novichok

Wait, I know what they will say. Sikorsky is a Pole, Korolev was Ukrainian, jet engines are improved versions of those taken from Germans as reparations, and the Soviet nuclear program was stolen pure and simple from Americans.

Cojestdocholery
29 Mar 2022  #6998

Wait, I know what they will say

No you don't. Visit Polish section of this forum and you will find out what we say. lol!

Vlad1234
29 Mar 2022  #6999

Ukrainian refugees in Germany

youtu.be/H7qWwsAG1bc

youtube.com/watch?v=H7qWwsAG1bc

Ukrainian refugees in Poland

youtu.be/4SR__rTCEOE

youtube.com/watch?v=4SR__rTCEOE

Ukrainian refugees in Canada

youtu.be/r19qtWUNfjw

youtube.com/watch?v=r19qtWUNfjw

johnny reb
30 Mar 2022  #7000

Putin is getting his ass kicked and is pretending to lay off Kyiv now...

Kyiv has a lot of Russian history and historical buildings and statues.
The citizens of Russia would be peeved if uncle Pooty destroyed them.

Novichok
30 Mar 2022  #7001

Ukrainian refugees in Poland

...are forever.

johnny reb
30 Mar 2022  #7002

The U.S. has been training Ukrainians in Poland in how to use the military weapons that the U.S. has been supplying them.
It's no wonder that Russia is taking such a drubbing.

Joker
30 Mar 2022  #7003

commie in what I post.

Commie is an outdated term, but Putin will always be a commie to me. Once a commie, always a commie in my book. A Tiger cant change its stripes, neither can Putin.

GefreiterKania
30 Mar 2022  #7004

No-cock, Pedo-coward and Crow

Exactly. Pole-hater (and a self-proclaimed Russian troll), pedo and a Serb who can't get over the fact that they wanted to commit genocide but NATO didn't allow that. Haters, pedophiles and genocidal maniacs - Russia Support Team 2022. :D Really, you don't have to know anything about Poland and you don't have to know anything about Russia - just look who supports who, and you will know everything.

Oh, I forgot Russian patriots who prefer to support their country from a very safe distance living in the USA.

Sikorsky is a Pole, Korolev was Ukrainian, jet engines are (...) from Germans (...) and the Soviet nuclear program was stolen

You beat me to it. One could also add: their Ladas are Renaults, their home-made tractors are Czech and their two main export goods are fossil fuels and mail order brides, but one doesn't want to be unnecessarily truculent.

To be fair, Russia does have some impressive high-culture (literature, music, ballet), breathtaking landscapes, beautiful language and tons of wasted potential, but all these things are overshadowed by their 19th-century-stuck politics and deeply ingrained mental serfdom of their general population.

Meathead
30 Mar 2022  #7005

Novichok, the sins of America does not justify Russia's violence. You should know better.

If Poles don't have a good self image it's because of being subjugated by that corrupt Russian occupation. The same can be said for political corruption in the surrounding countries, Russian instigated obviously.

Paulina
30 Mar 2022  #7006

I don't know if anyone wrote about it already, but the meeting of Ministers of Defense of V4 group that was supposed to take place in Hungary won't happen because of Orban's behaviour in the face of Russian invasion on Ukraine - the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Poland decided to boycott the meeting. According to unofficial information it's pretty much the end of PiS' alliance with Orban:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/koniec-wielkiego-sojuszu-pis-z-orbanem-grupa-v4-bojkotuje-wegry-6752490653788704a

Also, due to invasion of Ukraine there's a big increase in interest in shooting and military pro-defense courses in Poland:

kobieta.wp.pl/polki-ruszyly-na-strzelnice-i-szkolenia-wojskowe-sa-zainteresowane-wszelkimi-formami-zabezpieczenia-6752504292067840a

In big cities around 45% of those participating in those courses are women.

At those courses you can learn what to do during an armed conflict, how to use a gun safely, how to help injured people during combat situation, etc.

PolAmKrakow
30 Mar 2022  #7007

@Paulina
Being reported in the US that Orban being pushed aside after PiS was given info on him and Russia. Must be some pretty non flattering info.

Paulina
30 Mar 2022  #7008

@PolAmKrakow, interesting... Could you post a link?

PolAmKrakow
30 Mar 2022  #7009

@Paulina
Saw it on TV news, while in US. But this is interesting msn.com/pl-pl/wiadomosci/polska/pis-ma-problem-z-orbanem-i-zamra%C5%BCa-relacje/ar-AAVDF7I?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=81e32f3199f74b9cad0112d9904c77eb

Paulina
30 Mar 2022  #7010

Being reported in the US that Orban being pushed aside after PiS was given info on him and Russia.

It looks like it's some guesswork of a former Polish ambassador to the US - he thinks that Americans must've told PiS something during Biden's visit in Poland:

dorzeczy.pl/opinie/282202/amerykanie-poinformowali-pis-ws-orbana.html

But who knows, maybe he's right...

What Russian soldiers are known for over the centuries. Nothing changes with animals.

Yeah, in case someone wondered why Polish and Ukrainian women in Poland want to learn how to use a gun...

This sounds like Velund taking revenge:

"This younger guy pulled gun to my head and said: 'I shot your husband because he's a Nazi.'"

"He said 'you'd better shut up or I'll get your child and show him his mother's brains spread around the house"

Bratwurst Boy
30 Mar 2022  #7011

Kremlin ultimatum

Habeck announces early warning level in the emergency plan for the gas supply

spiegel.de/wirtschaft/gasversorgung-habeck-ruft-vorwarnstufe-im-notfallplan-aus-a-8a76539d-e777-4773-9bed-db98cf689a67

Germany is preparing for an end to natural gas supplies from Russia. Economics Minister Habeck has started the early warning stage in an emergency plan for the gas supply.

Was probably due sooner or later.....

Economics Robert Habeck (Greens) is preparing for the blocking of natural gas supplies by Russian President Vladimir Putin . According to SPIEGEL information, on Wednesday morning he triggered the early warning stage in an emergency plan to ensure the supply of natural gas even after a delivery stop. According to the ministry, there are currently no supply bottlenecks. The security of supply is guaranteed.....

The background to the radical step is the Kremlin's ultimatum that, from April, energy deliveries will be paid exclusively in rubles and not in euros or dollars. Habeck had rejected this after a meeting with the energy ministers of the G7 countries on Monday. A Russian government spokesman said immediately that deliveries would then be stopped....


Hach ja.....the times when the Russians only tried to starve the West-Berliner....that could be helped with a Luftbrücke....will there be a "Gas-Brücke"???

Paulina
30 Mar 2022  #7012

Another party which disappoints in the face of Russian invasion on Ukraine is pope Francis:

nytimes.com/2022/03/18/world/europe/pope-francis-ukraine-russia-war.html

wiadomosci.wp.pl/kompromitacja-watykanu-w-obliczu-inwazji-na-ukraine-duda-chcialby-zmienic-podejscie-papieza-6752481433045504a

For some cheap gas is more important than the blood of Ukrainians. In case of pope Francis it seems that ecumenism is more important.

mafketis
30 Mar 2022  #7013

Germany is preparing for an end to natural gas supplies from Russia

Good thing Germany diversified its energy supplies so much during the reign of Angel....... oh....... hmmmmm well.... hope you have some sweaters!

Would a shutoff pry the German political class away from the Russian trough? Or will Shroeder continue to feed?

Bratwurst Boy
30 Mar 2022  #7014

Good thing Germany diversified its energy supplies so much during the reign of Angel...

Yeah....wasn't she great for Germany!

I wonder if there will be some official trial in the future....where all our Putin-lovers (some still in exalted positions) will have to answer some hard questions.

Right now everybody seems to ignore what had happened....what they have done....or better NOT done!

Crnogorac3
30 Mar 2022  #7015

Photos from liberated Mariupol:

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2

youtu.be/12es-_E3CtU

Vadym Boychenko the mayor of Mariupol called on citizens to respect the new authorities.

👍

Tacitus
30 Mar 2022  #7016

wasn't she great for Germany!

Not just for Germany. Without her we would no longer have the EU and Europe would be even more fragmented. That is something even you will have to admit.

respect the new authorities.

Why should they deserve respect? They are installed against fierce opposition of the population and are enabling plunder, murder and rape.

Crow
30 Mar 2022  #7017

Speaking of Polish Duda and Poland`s policy on Hungary and Serbia. Must be some trickery there by Duda to confuse western Europe. Politics is old kur*a. I sense he would in critical moment join to these two neutral countries. What else. He is sensible and reasonable man. Let western Europe penisize with Russia if they want. Why would Poland receive penis in that exchange.

GefreiterKania
30 Mar 2022  #7018

Russian volunteers will fight fot Ukraine...

wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/news-ochotnicy-z-rosji-beda-walczyc-po-stronie-ukrainy-powstal-le,nId,5927181

... "Free Russia" legion was formed and will soon join the fight on Ukrainian side. Fingers crossed. :)

Crow
30 Mar 2022  #7019

God knows Poland don`t need involvement in conflict. Poland need prosperity and economic growth. To take some more milk from cow, before EU dies in agony.

Strzelec35
30 Mar 2022  #7020

true crow poland in conflict would be bad for the eocnomy.


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