Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

youtu.be/1PB7emtkRf4

Colonel Douglas Macgregor - Part Of The Problem #839

I enjoyed the interview with MacGregor. You think "where would USA be today if only Trump had hired him when he took office."

Note how MacGregor said in a couple of weeks, it's all going to implode, this Ukraine love when the truth comes out.

This is an interesting story.

Helicopters attacked and blew up an oil facility in Belgorod in Russia.

Russians say these were Ukrainian helicopters, the Ukrainians have not confirmed this but if it was Ukrainians then the fact they flew over Russion airspace undetected is embarrassing for the Russians.

Or could these have been Russian helicopters?

Maybe staging a "False Flag" attack?

Or could this be rebel Russian military trying to stop the war?

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10675075/Ukrainian-attack-helicopters-strike-oil-facility-INSIDE-Russia.html

A lot of indications that military (from top to bottom) are not on board for Putin's war of aggression.

@mafketis

I have read the same.

Do you really think so?..

There was a lot of crowing before the invasion from Putinites about how the economy had been made "sanction proof".... oops

There's also the fact that the Russian political system is disconnected from the population to a degree that's hard for outsiders to comprehend... That is the Russian government really doesn't have to worry about the economic effects of its (usually disastrous and failed) policies on the population. The powerful do what they want and the serfs (90 + per cent of the population) endure whatever indignity and hardship the tsar imposes on them.

This means that the political situation can get really horrible for most people and it won't affect how the government works (esp since Russians, unlike Poles and Ukrainians) don't really know how to carry out effective protests.

This thread by the invaluable Galeev explains some of it... Putin's Russia is all about the conflict between barons and courtiers... (the wider population is irrelevant).

twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1503430216554795014

@Crnogorac3, you have to be really stupid to post such manipulated meme about Ukrainian refugees on a forum about Poland where Poles living in Poland are writing. Considering how many of them Poland has taken in, not only to refugee reception centres, but mainly to private homes (like members of my family, for example), we know better than anyone else what Ukrainian refugees look like. Vast majority of the refugees in Poland are Ukrainian women, children, the elderly and their pets.



Source of the photo:

wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/newsamp-1-33-mln-uchodzcow-z-ukrainy-przekroczylo-polska-granice,nId,5881431

And that guy doesn't look like Zelensky in that last photo + the photo is photoshoped - those are two different photos put together and it even isn't done very well.

Btw, Crnogorac3, what about that photo from "Mariupol" that I asked you about twice already? Where did you find it?

People, my friends and you who are brethren. Don`t be naive. Many war-propaganda present on all sides. Be advised. First thing dies in war is truth.

But Crnogorac3 knew that when he posted it.............

Ukrainian refugees should come here in Serbia and avoid any EU country if possible because darker migrants that are already in EU hate Ukrainians and Russians.


Best forum to talk to true Poles, indeed. Kashubs, Lusatians, too. In general, with Serbs. He, he

Hundreds of Syrian fighters are en route to join Russian forces in Ukraine, effectively returning the favor to Moscow for helping President Bashar al-Assad crush rebels in an 11-year civil war, according to two people monitoring the flow of mercenaries.

As Moscow's forces bog down in Ukraine, many young Russians of draft age are increasingly jittery about the prospect of being sent into combat.

Making those fears particularly acute is an annual spring conscription that begins today and aims to round up 134,500 men for a one-year tour of military duty.

Doesn't look like there is going to be an end to this war anytime soon.
Putin is mad and said, "I will crush Ukraine's leader."

Which only testifies well about Russia's military. The US military had no problems with dumping tons of napalm because they decided that it was better for the Vietnamese to be dead than red. That's how we show that we care who you can vote for.

So how does it make you feel that you chose to emigrate to a country that would dump napalm on civilians? Are you sorry you headed west rather than east? Where would you rather live?

I don't think he's even one person Paulina. I think it's just an account name under which a number of different paid trolls post whatever material is in their 'to be posted today' tray. You notice that he posts a lot of videos and photos which are very quick to do and when he writes a post, the length and style/tone vary quite a bit. You notice also that he rarely responds to anything he's challenged about. That's because he's only paid to post misinformation and fake news on a list of sites and on a rare occasion whoever is using the account that day has enough time and enough English to bother responding.

He, in all his guises, is undoubtedly stupid though :))

...that are more effective than lengthy essays. That "I am a brain-fvcked idiot" is perfect.


Did you see his paycheck? Do you get paid to post in favor of your side?

Hey, Russia-hating idiots, watch the smartest woman (right next to Tulsi Gabbard) walking on this planet:

youtu.be/MY3JsqVR_04

...a woman that can see beyond a sobbing child clutching a teddy bear.

No, I don't get paid for posting here. I do it for free and because I know I am right.

BTW, the essence of what she says is all within the first 8 minutes.

especially when the brits stop her daughter entering her 21 million dollar home that she paid in cash for.. oops. thats the way first step. stop the oligarchs children taking advantage of the wealth that their parents stole off russia, and the cowards hand it off to their children. first step. Sergei Lavrovs step daugher. paid in cash for her london mansion, in the best suburb of london. many more asset freezes to come. Lavrov must be chain smoking a bit more once he hears what happened to his step-daughter

Nope. NATO has not been "aggresively expanding" - NATO has been accepting applications of some of the countries who applied for membership themselves. There has been no aggression towards Poland, Czech Republic or Hungary to join - they APPLIED for membership.

Can any pro-Russian retard on this board see the difference between a free country applying for and being granted membership in NATO and Russia invading a country that was thinking of becoming a NATO member, because Russia didn't like the idea? Who's aggressive here?

So, I will repeat it once more, for all of you brain-dead Putin's rectum divers: YES it is absolutely OK for any free, independent country to apply for NATO membership and become a member out of their own free will, and NO it is not OK to invade a free, independent country because they were considering becoming NATO members.

If this is too f*ucking difficult for you idiots to understand, then there is no hope for you.

As can any intelligent, informed person. The simple fact of the matter is that in this day and age in Europe (let's forget the failed experiment known as the United States of America) we don't invade our neighbours. If we have differences with them we try to talk it out. Nothing justifies the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Btw, Tulsi Gabbard is untrustworthy and that's a fact. Check her scores on fact checker sites and you'll find that she lies more than half the time that she talks. She scores a whopping 66% for telling porkies. You like stats and percentages Novi, that should make you happy.

Is it too fu*cking difficult for stupid Polaks to understand that NATO expansion was the NUMBER ONE SUBJECT when the USSR AGREED (and they didn't have to) to leave East Germany and LET Germany be one pro-Westen country? The snake (the US) promised Gorbachev that NATO would not expand.

Then it did because the word out of the US and NATO is worth sh*it. And that 2014 "revolution". By then, Russia had enough.


Yes, it's absolutely OK for you to annoy a tiger if you are an idiot and don't mind the consequences.

Don't like what Russia did? Good. File a suit in the Hague. That should do it. I am sure that world opinion will matter more than the existential threat to Russia.

Show me the signed document stating the above. If not, shut the f*ck up and stop talking nonsense.


More than Russia's "guarantees" for Ukraine, given in return for giving up Ukrainian nuclear weapons.


...a tiger? More like a retarded pussy cat who thinks he's a tiger.


No but the sanctions should. They are already turning Russia into Somalia in terms of economy, technology and industry. Give it a bit more time.


There is no "existential threat" to Russia. Your favourite mongols have over 6,000 nuclear warheards, so nobody is going to invade them. Their existence is perfectly safe. Everything else is BS that nobody is buying any longer. Mongols try to rebuild their mongol empire (and that's exactly what they stated in their leaked "victory message"), so please don't give us this sorry "oh, poor Russia is afraid for their existence" bullsh*t. It would take a very special kind of idiot to believe that.

How about learning how to respond to what she said right now in her last appearance. If you want to discredit a person on the totality of what she did or said then I have the same right to cite every crime committed by the US and its "allies" - including stupid Polaks in Iraq - from Korea till now.

Joing NATO vs joining Russia in two pictures.... which is aggressively expanding again?

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So let's look at the credentials of Kim Iverson 'the smartest woman on the planet' whom we should listen to if we want to understand the Russia/Ukraine war ...........

Her impressive career has so far included working as a reporter and VJ for Concert TV, hosting the Austin Fashion Week (she also did a bit of modelling during the event, multi-talented indeed), advising callers about their love lives on Your Time With Kim Iverson, and achieving the rank of semi-finalist in 2013's Hometown Hotties Competition. Yes, with that background, her insights into European politics must be staggering.

Putin is using his leverage on the E.U. with his gas and oil exports to the the E.U.
Shortages are of gas will be coming soon to the E.U.
But Putin is screwed in trying that with NATO (the U.S.) because the U.S. doesn't need his gas and oil.
The U.S. has more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on Earth.
Here are the official estimates:
8 times as much oil as Saudi Arabia
18 times as much oil as Iraq
21 times as much oil as Kuwait
22 times as much oil as Iran
500 times as much oil as Yemen

When Trump was president, the U.S. was exporting and not importing oil.
The U.S. has more than enough to share with Europe so why is this not happened yet ?
This war is forcing the E.U. to get busy with alternatives as costly as they are going to be.

It does not work that way, Polak. The US had many warheads and still lost in Vietnam and Afghanistan - both wars ending up in a shameful retreat by the world's greatest superpower ever. This shows how even a superpower can be defeated by million cuts over time rather than a spectacular life-ending nuclear calamity.


Your sarcasm is cute but that's all that it is. What she says, which you smartly ignored, is the only subject for the moment. If you see anything you oppose, just say so and keep her resume a secret because it does not matter for now. If you want to discuss it later, go for it.

Now, it's what she said about Russia and Ukraine.

Since you've pledged loyalty to the snake how did that make you feel? How do you square your hatred of the US with your citizenship in same?

How often have you openly protested in public against foreign policy that you find so repugnant?

It's exactly how it works, Polak.


Has the existence of the USA been threatened because of the lost wars in Vietnam or Afghanistan? Did any country invade USA? No. And nobody will invade USA, because they have enough nukes to destroy the entire world. The same applies to Russia - they can win or lose a proxy war, but nobody will invade mainland Russia because it would end in an all-out nuclear war. Simple as that.

So, again, don't try to give us this same old "existence of Russia is threatened" bullsh*it. It is NOT threatened, and it has never seriously been threatened since they acquired (or rather stole) nuclear weapons technology.

The point is that she's not a credible source.

Quoting:

Russia holds 1,688 trillion cubic feet (Tcf) of proven gas reserves as of 2017, ranking 1st in the world and accounting for about 24% of the world's total natural gas reserves of 6,923

Just imagine removing Russia's gas and oil from the world's market and what that would do to their prices...hahahahahaha...

I hope Euros will soon attack Russia to prevent this unhappy outcome. I will be "supporting" their brave men, women, and the non-binaries in my prayers.