Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

He's being paid

That alone - no. But Russia will keep Donbas, Luhansk, and Mariupol with their natural resources and the ports. That may be worth it.


A pro is usually better at it than an amateur. BTW, what's wrong with being paid for your service?


I can reverse that question...Mr. Z, was the damage and the deaths worth it? All Russia wanted is a neutral Ukraine or at least that's what they said. It sure looks like they will get a neutral Ukraine but leave you, Mr. Z, with the cleanup and Western "democracies" with the cost of rebuilding. That's why they retreated from the areas they don't need and kept where they can have a referendum with a positive outcome. Just guessing...

Hmm....that depends where you draw the line for souvereignity, I think?

There are some ground principles which define a souvereign and independent nation. Especially quite "new" countries like Ukraine are extremely (and with good reason) sensitive in that regard.

And the right to chose your alliances is one of those keystones!

A chosen neutrality is one thing, your neighbour forbidding you to become a member of a certain union/alliance something else altogether. Every country with some basic pride would balk here....

The Ukrainians have drawn their line quite openly, I believe Yanukovich had been kicked out of office for obeying said neighbour....they want to make their own decisions and are, as the world learned, willing to pay the price.

So...it seems "Z" had no other choice to react differently!

I would love to hear the rest of that rousing speech but now we know that pride can be expensive. As Paulina, the PF MD, has diagnosed it, when you have a nut for a neighbor, pride may not be smart to flaunt. At least not to the nut.

Just curious to know the totality of damage in Ukraine - rounded off to the nearest trillion dollars.


I don't think NATO will be Ukraine in your lifetime.

I think Ukraine has shown alot of patience and restraint! They even trusted the promises of East and West after they gave up their nukes....

Not to forget said neighbour wasn't always that nutty....(my theory of Putin's deteriorating mental health still stands).

If Ukraine becomes a member of EU and NATO the blame will fall onto the Kremlin only!

And frankly the western aid-billions flooding in once all that bruhaha is over should sweeten the rebuilding of Ukraine to a most modern nation (especially once EU member)....

I now want that you take back these harsh words.

How could I resist urge to inform people here. And now, when papacy is so good to us Slavs.

You heard, dobri brate?

Bank of Vatican from central bank of Russia bought Russian rubles for 10 million eur for payment of natural gas. Hungary will also pay in rubles.

There was/is no "separatist" movement in Donbass, there was a Russian invasion followed by the installation of Russians to run the place who turned it into a mini-mafia state

explained here: twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1509968359483445256

(nb this correlates closely with what I've heard from Ukrainians with ties to the region)

Address and/or refute the issues raised about Donbass first and reformulate your mind/questions....

I love seeing the shills pretending that conquest was never the aim.

A few days before the invasion the war criminal Putin said "in this part of the world we are the rulers". Now that we have witnessed your army's pathetic performance on the pitch it turns out all he wants is to protect language rights in some medium sized towns in Donbass. LOL

Get this into your head - even the Donbassians want nothing to do with Putin. They don"t want to live like Russians. nobody does.

Anyway its mid morning in Moscow so I'm guessing you are about halfway down the queue for "bacon" (really some bits of salty skin and lard). By lunchtime you might have scraped enough together for a feast on your barren allotment with some soggy ogorki from 2017.

@Korvinus ;D


I don't recall Putin aka "Bloodimir" warning Ukraine that if it plans to join NATO then Russia will invade the whole country, kill it's people and destroy it's cities, towns, villages, rape women and girls and steal anything Russian soldiers can carry. This invasion (and it's brutality and cruelty) came as a shocking surprise to everyone, including the Ukrainians.


I don't know if he's a nut. He may well be an evil psycho, which doesn't automatically make him insane, as we can see in your case.

This statement (among quite a few other ridiculous comments you have made on this topic) shows just how poorly informed you are. Here is an interview from 2019 with an adviser of Zelensky. Not only did they know that an attack was coming but they also knew from which directions the Russians would attack them. Is all this really only Putin's fault?

youtu.be/1xNHmHpERH8

Predicted Russian - Ukrainian war in 2019 - Alexey Arestovich

yes it is, he's the one that made the decision (which apparently freaked out much of the Russian government when it was too late to change....)

The dead bodies in the street in Buch are on Putin and his supporters (like you). Congratulations, you support war crimes....

I don't recall you pointing out to me that I'm poorly informed on something. Noone forbids you to "educate" me :) I recall, however, you spouting lots of Russian propaganda and even posting innacurate map of Russian army's gains in Ukraine... Hmmm... 🤔

So, who's poorly informed here?


But he's an actor! Therefore, according to your own "logic" he can't possibly be a good advisor and can't be treated seriously, right? lol

Btw, former Polish president, Jarosław Kaczyński, who died in the plane crash in Smolensk, predicted an invasion on Ukraine already in 2008. Did anyone treat him seriously and believed that it will happen?

New Srebrenica?:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/nowa-srebrenica-wstrzasajacy-obraz-rosyjskich-zbrodni-6754190151662080a

What happening now in Ukraine is exactly Srebrenica. First, local Muslims and worse Arab mujaheedines committed genocide on more then 3000 local Serbs around Srebrenica. Then, came general Ratko Racow, liberated area and shi* happened to Muslims. Local and mujaheedines.

Same is in Ukraine. First, genocide was committed on local Russians and pro-Russia Slavs. Then, Russia started Special operation and shi* happened to nazis of Ukraine and many others who are collateral victims of both sides in conflict.

@Crow, stop lying. Ukrainians didn't commit genocide on Russians.

Oh boy 🤢


spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-krieg-russen-begehen-in-butscha-womoeglich-massives-kriegsverbrechen-a-84358546-fd66-4f41-888e-6b08c9587388

After a month of siege, Ukrainian troops recaptured Bucha near Kyiv. On the streets they find many dead civilians. Everything points to a Russian war crime. The pictures are horrific....

"New Srebrenica":

twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1510372750665433089

New Srebrenica. The Ukrainian city of Bucha was in the hands of 🇷🇺 animals for several weeks. *Local civillians were being executed arbitrarily*, some with hands tied behind their backs, their bodies scattered in the streets of the city.

(pictures and video)

Neither did the muslims. The deaths are all Serbian responsibility.


Sickening. And who knows what happens in other Russian-occupied territory. Or how the Russiana are likely brutalizing the brave people in Mariupol.

Is this likely to finally change German policy? Or will they continue to finance this because of Germany's disastrous decision to become an economic dependent of Russia?

I don't think so....there is no quick way out of this **** dependency our ***** leader have led us into for years. It's what it is, no use to cry over it again and again....

We will pay for it in many other ways....supporting refugees....and most of the rebuilding later will be done with german money, I'm totally sure of it.

Lech Kaczyński, sorry ;)


Thanks for the link, BB... This video is spine-chilling... :(

......the pics are the worst!

Obviously helpless civilians...

Russia is really doing everything to permanently sever all ties with Ukraine after this war is over. Who within Ukraine will teach their children Russian after this? Russian culture in Ukraine will experience the same decline German did in Alsace after 1945.

And let this be an end to Rich's diatribe about the benefits of surrender - if you surrender you will be robbed, raped and murdered by the primitives.

It is time to provide aircraft to Ukraine

@Crow

Why do you hate the Azovs so much when their leader Andriy Biletsky openly hails and greatly admires Serbian General Ratko Mladić calling him a Slavic hero who defended European borders against islamic invaders and condemned his unjust trial at the Zionist courts at the Hague tribunal.

Ukrainian Azov Battalion celebrates Serbian General Ratko Mladić

Slava Ratku Mladiću!

twitter.com/MersadComaga/status/1508287444218785793

Slava!

Finally, let me hear something smart from you, dear young men from Azov :D That is also pretty much the only thing we agree on.

Who's aircraft ? Poland's aircraft ?
Poland wants another 50,000 U.S. troops to add to the 100.000 U.S. troops that are already in Poland.
I have an idea, why doesn't Poland start a draft and start inducting some of their own into the Poland's armed forces ?

msn.com/en-us/news/world/poland-would-like-more-u-s-troops-in-europe-says-ruling-party-boss/ar-AAVNY9D?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=96c2ae5ce3d648cc9c0448ecb9a303c9

Kaczynski also said that Poland would be "open" to having nuclear weapons stationed in the country but that this was not something currently under consideration.

About the video of the supposed crime against civilians around Kiev, on which are masturbating Bratwurst Boy, Paulina, Tacitus, cms, and others, shows a man rising from the ground in the rearview mirror. 😁

t.me/readovkanews/29913

Ukrainian propaganda is much louder because the Russian one was banned, and it is financed by the West as if they were personally at war with Russia, and not only indirectly.

@johnny reb, there are 100 000 US troops in Europe in general, not in Poland. In Poland there are only 10 000. Germany has still the biggest number of US troops stationed there:

stripes.com/theaters/europe/2022-03-15/us-forces-record-high-europe-war-ukraine-5350187.html


Nope. You're pathetic, btw.

twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1510567023486840834

one moves his hand, the other one gets up - they are tragicomical, tragicomical.

One were the local scum that was supported by the USA, the other was Russian operatives pretending to be locals.


Clearly they lied!


No, Poland wants USA to put more US soldiers to Europe as to total 150 000. From that number only 50 000 should be in Poland and Baltic states staying on pernament basis.

You got it wrong.

Polish government is planning to increase the number of Polish army to 300 000:

naszemiasto.pl/bacznosc-do-wojska-wstap-na-szczescie-dobrowolnie-armia-ma/ar/c1-8693053


I'm not registered on Twitter so I can't view it, but I'm guessing that you're lying like with the first one.