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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Crnogorac3
3 Apr 2022  #7351

Exactly the more you bend over to them (zionist-West), the more they look at you as a cockroach that needs to be trampled. When PiS acts like this, I wonder what PO would do. In general, in Poland there is not even an "s" of sovereignty maybe some imitation.

Korvinus
3 Apr 2022  #7352

Rapes are easier to discuss

You are disgusting.
In front or rapes

NATO and Russia's warnings

pale into insignificance.

Atch
3 Apr 2022  #7353

Russian rape is better than American napalm. Ask your wife or the first woman you see today.

Interesting .........you say that you never get personal on this forum - but you just did with Korvinus and with the women on this forum. No I don't think most women would prefer that as an option. Here's an example for you:

"Russian troops who took over a suburb of Kyiv are alleged to have raped and held hostage a 15-year-old girl whose mother died while she was being detained against her will, ITV News has been told.

The teenager is claimed to have been held by Russian troops for 10 days close to Irpin, the heavily contested town which sits roughly 12 miles from the Ukrainian capital.

ITV News tracked down Konstantin Gudauskas, the volunteer who rescued the girl and relayed the horrifying details - which are being passed onto war crimes investigators - to Global Security Editor Rohit Kachroo."

Seeing as it's now ok to get personal with you, would you confirm that you'd be ok with your daughter and granddaughter being gang raped for a couple of weeks? I assume that is what we're to infer from your post? After all, you just said it would be ok for it to happen to Korvinus' wife or to me, so where do you stand where your own women are concerned?

amiga500
3 Apr 2022  #7354

You are disgusting.
In front or rapes

don't worry the pretend polish traitor will be dead soon from a heart attack. he even betrays his country that gave him refuge. hey novi make sure u tell your daughters to post a eulogy on PF when u kark it. oh thats right your family hates you and they DGF

johnny reb
3 Apr 2022  #7355

Less than one week after Joe Biden claimed his "unprecedented sanctions" had reduced the ruble "to rubble," Russia's currency has recovered all its losses and is now trading higher than before the war began.

(AP) - Lithuania says it has cut itself off entirely of gas imports from Russia, apparently becoming the first of the European Union's 27 nations using Russian gas to break its energy dependence upon Moscow.

"Seeking full energy independence from Russian gas, in response to Russia's energy blackmail in Europe and the war in Ukraine, Lithuania has completely abandoned Russian gas," Lithuania's energy ministry said in a statement late Saturday, adding that the measure took effect in the beginning of April.

Now if Germany and the rest of the E.U. would have the balls to do the same.

Polish government is planning to increase the number of Polish army to 300 000:

Thanks Paulina, now if the rest of the E.U. would do the same those "extra" 50,000 American soldiers could stay home.

Tacitus
3 Apr 2022  #7356

@Novichok

Since you like asking "simple" questions I'd have one for you:

If "encirclement" by NATO was the reason for the invasion of Ukraine, then why did Putin not say so in his speech before the Russian army invaded? Instead he went on how Ukraine has no identity and right to exist how Lenin made a mistake by granting it such in 1917.

Atch
3 Apr 2022  #7357

which one would you choose: Russian rape or American napalm?

Why would I answer that question when you didn't answer mine?

Novichok
3 Apr 2022  #7358

don't worry the pretend polish traitor will be dead soon from a heart attack.

Let's see if you will get either A or O for this one.

...why did Putin not say so in his speech...

Ask him. I am not his speechwriter.

Tacitus
3 Apr 2022  #7359

But you claim to know what drives him! If NATO is his fear, why did he not mention it while justifying his war? He was trying to get the Russian on board with his war plans. Why not say that this is a preemptive war to protect Russia from NATO?

Novichok
3 Apr 2022  #7360

Lithuania has completely abandoned Russian gas,"

As we all know so very well, Russian gas is blue and glows in the dark. That's how that moron will know that the gas he will be buying from Marsians is not Russian. It's like giving a drug addict money with a note: to be used only for baby formula. Sure...No problem.

Children, today we learned the meaning of the word "fungible".

Why not say that this is a preemptive war to protect Russia from NATO?

Ask him. He made many speeches to all kinds of audiences. Did you ever say sh*it? Did you ever say sh*it at a PT meeting? My guess is that Putin is equally selective.

Tacitus
3 Apr 2022  #7361

@Novichok

This was not any speech, this was the most important speech of his life. He talked for an hour, citing all sorts of obscure historical data. Why did he not mention NATO? Because it is not relevant for his motivation to attack.

Novichok
3 Apr 2022  #7362

I noticed that you didn't say: Because it is not relevant.

Tacitus
3 Apr 2022  #7363

Everything is relevant in some way for something. But NATO was evidently not relevant for his motivation to invade. And how could it be, given that not only did NATO not pose a threat to Russia, but also since numerous Western leaders told him mere days ago that Ukraine would not be joining NATO anyway?

Thus it makes sense why Putin would not mention NATO: Because it was not the reason why he invaded.

Novichok
3 Apr 2022  #7364

youtu.be/77qGVIHsvYg

youtu.be/pnQxmreTBg8

youtu.be/TEHjWReqrrs

Yeah...Putin keeps his concerns about NATO a secret. Top secret.

Tacitus
3 Apr 2022  #7365

Again, not the speech that counted. Because he could not with any shred of credibility claim so after Macron and Scholz had visited him and had assured him that Ukraine would not join NATO.

Tacitus
3 Apr 2022  #7366

Beating whom? Everybody outside of some American conservatives nowadays acknowledges that Iraq was an illegal war of aggression.

Novichok
3 Apr 2022  #7367

Macron and Scholz

These two stooges are just stooges. The real deal is the US and Ukraine. Don't insult me, please.

Histmag
3 Apr 2022  #7368

twitter.com/mbk_center/status/1510625240396800006
A really drastic scene.

Crow
3 Apr 2022  #7369

Hungary, Serbia, Belarus and Russia will save Poland.

Tacitus
3 Apr 2022  #7370

are just stooges

Yet enough to veto any NATO ascension. Just like in 2008.

Novichok
3 Apr 2022  #7371

Everybody outside of some American conservatives nowadays acknowledges that Iraq was an illegal war of aggression.

"Everybody" means crap. When it comes from the White House, let me know.

Yet enough to veto any NATO ascension. Just like in 2008.

If these two clowns (1) are still around or (2) remember what they said in 2022.
I don't recall is the scum's favorite line. See Hilary.
What counts is a treaty - duly ratified by Congress. Save all else for the nearest nursing home or kindergarten.

PolAmKrakow
3 Apr 2022  #7372

Anyone saying that Russia hasn't committed war crimes is retarded or being paid to say it. More than enough evidence to convict anyone involved of war crimes now. Putin will be prosecuted, without question. He will be locked behind Russian borders or at least airspace of Russia and other comrade nations. Unless of course his plane is forced down into an unfriendly nation like he had done in Belarus to one of his rivals.

Once the weather warms the gas will not be an issue. Solutions will be found. A little more expensive, but Putin will be starved out. The Ruble rebounding? You mean by not letting any foreign trades of the ruble take place and by restricting the export of foreign currency? Yes. And as soon as the markets open again for real, you wont be able to give rubles away.

pawian
3 Apr 2022  #7373

The Poles are right now destroying Visegrad group and burning bridges

Not the whole group - only the one with Hungarian membership. Hungarians are too big supporters of RuSSists so they don`t fit right now. If Orban wins today`s elections again, Poland, Czechia and Slovakia will create their own group without Hungary. Probably Lithuania will be invited to join.

mafketis
3 Apr 2022  #7374

The Ruble rebounding? You mean by not letting any foreign trades

Have people forgotten communist/soviet economic practices so soon? I remember when visiting the PRL there were two separate exchange rates, the official government rate and the black market rate.... (which was remarkably stable across sellers on any given day and which fluctuated around 6 times the official rate so if the commie rate was 100 to a dollar the official rate was around 600....)

People who don't remember history...

Poland, Czechia and Slovakia will create their own group without Hungary. Probably Lithuania will be invited to join.

I've heard of a potential post-war Poland-Ukraine-Baltics alliance (maybe Belarus too if they can get rid of the massive blood filled tick known as Lukashenka).

Korvinus
3 Apr 2022  #7375

I suggested to K to ask her for her OPINION,

I would rather burn under napalm, then witness such a thing.
What russkies are doing in Ukraine is evil. I repeat, evil. Yes, I know, it is oppressive, evaluating, antediluvian category.
Here, however, these are completely natural concepts. Almost technical. Evil. Good. Just like that.
You cannot check the box "I don't know" or "I have no opinion" here. Life and death. Evil and good. Meannes and nobility. There is no "I don't know."

There is no room for the Pilates of Pontus.

I know, I know, we should use the rules of hypocrites for whom the stick has ten ends and everything is relative, so any decisive action is a crime. It means that we are starting to differentiate. Use absolutist concepts. And from there it is only a step to making moral judgments. And it would lead straight to an inquisition. So better to turn your back. See no evil.

Tacitus
3 Apr 2022  #7376

@Novichok

Then why don't you listen to it every time you intent to post a message?

I hope you at least learned from this exchange how to pose "simple" questions properly. If succesful, you corner the recipient in a way that makes him give up like you did, instead of opening yourself up to an easy retort.

Crnogorac3
3 Apr 2022  #7377

t.me/denazi_UA/5218

- Russian units left Bucha on March 30.

- On March 31, the mayor of Bucha, Fedoruk, confirmed in a video address that the Russians had left, but did not mention any of those killed.

- All the "evidence of crimes" in Bucha appear only on the 4th day since the Russians left, that is since the SBU came to Bucha.

- The bodies on the recordings are not stiff, which is impossible after 4 days, they do not have characteristic bullet wounds, no blood can be seen anywhere.

- All this confirms that the recordings and pictures from Bucha are a hoax of the Kiev regime and the Western media, as was the case with the maternity hospital in Mariupol.

Histmag
3 Apr 2022  #7378

twitter.com/worldonalert/status/1510648358490288131
More Russian dogs went to hell where they belong.

Novichok
3 Apr 2022  #7379

People who don't remember history...

I remember. I also remember that Pole$$ were not drowning in unpayable personal debt since we had no credit cards. There was no national debt Poland couldn't afford, either. That invention from hell came later and Poland had to be bailed out.

All the "evidence of crimes" in Bucha appears only on the 4th day since the Russians left,

Wait just a minute...The lovely Ukrainians would resort to such tricks? No fu*cking way!!! They are too honest and Ukraine is a truth-loving "democracy"!

mafketis
3 Apr 2022  #7380

Excellent new video from the always reliable Vlad Vexler....

The difference between Soviet and Russian propaganda

youtube.com/watch?v=_j6Vg7yLx54

shorter shortest vision: The main goal of Soviet propaganda is to flood the arena with contradictory messages so that many figure that it's all to hard to figure out and retreat from the issue.

And they're big into increasing internal conflict (sewing chaos).

Russians aren't the only ones doing it of course but they're the best at it (dubious honor)


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