Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades

Oh not that again that lame excuse of post-soviet papuers full of envy.
You have more thieves, more of demoralised post-soviet rabble than Poland. All that money would be gone in few minutes if given futher east.


Again Russian paranoia. Nobody cares that much about Russia.

in the beginning of December 2021 the gas reserve was at the same level

This is a new statement by the current head of the German Army, You think the SLD/Greens will listen to those savage military types? hah I have my doubts.

So relax and try to have some pleasure.

Alas, I need to do some urgent work so I'm stopping to read this forum for some time. Feel free to throw some sh*t to the fan and please each other.

@Crnogorac3
Of course lets not forget that Mother Russia is actually a turd world country that the rest of the world does not care about. Lets also not forget that people like you keep it a turd world country, and now you and all the other Russians are not welcome anywhere. Enjoy the Ruble, and how about a shi7 sandwich with your cheap vodka tonight.

....I'm holding out on my judgement about the GREENS....not all of them are Putin-loving hopeless leftist radicals.....they might surprise us!

The pussies are quite silenced by now....people start seriously to ask about our Bundeswehr...I can't tell you how much Germany changed overnight...I am reading and hearing things from mainstream media and politicians I thought impossible just three days back....it's like waking up in another country!

Sure....the consequences will take some time....like the rearmament of our forces...and the independence from russian gas....but it will be significant!

"The radicals took power in Ukraine with a military coup on the Maidan with the help of foreign states." They were funded by billions that came from outside. The Maidan did not bring Ukraine closer to democracy. Ukraine as an independent state does not exist. They left their independence to foreign organizations that financed the coup on the Maidan. Ukraine became an American colony with a puppet regime. After that, the citizens of Crimea decided on their own through a referendum that they would be part of Russia. It is the free will of the people. And then the US and NATO send troops to Ukraine to do military exercises together. And last year they had military exercises in which thousands of military units participated. Americans still give tremendous support to terrorists today. NATO is constantly violating agreements. Despite all the treaties and agreements, they accepted many countries into their membership and came to the Russian borders. Now they want to bring Ukraine into NATO and place ballistic weapons there, which will be aimed at Russia. That is unacceptable to us. They want to impose sanctions on Russia and they will impose them. They had done this before even though they had no reason to. Their only goal is to prevent Russia's development. However, we will never give up our sovereignty and our national interests. Therefore, we decide to recognize the sovereignty and independence of the Republic of Donetsk and the Republic of Lugansk. "

Historic speech by President Putin

Did your troll farm assign you to another forum? your work was not successfull here it seems comrade.

No, I need to find and fix freshly found firmware bug in a device that I designed in the past. So, too much distraction to keep watching for news at same time.

@Crnogorac3
I wonder how history will taste and fill the stomachs of Russians when they can not eat. I wonder how history will reflect on this second version of Nazi expansion. I wonder how history will reflect on Russian trolls who spouted propaganda.

What will great though is not having to hear all the Russian's in Gdansk and Sopot this summer. It will be great not hearing them speak loudly and act like fools after drinking too much. It will be even better when we all get to read about how miserable life in Russia becomes once again.

For all the complaining about the "west", all Russian's buy are western goods. Mercedes, BMW, Range Rover, LV, Hermes, and all the other brands the Russians value so much will be gone. Enjoy the knockoff's.

Merkel today


🤢

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/ukraine-krieg-angela-merkel-cdu-verurteilt-russlands-angriff-aufs-schaerfste-a-6f2e6a66-14d8-437e-babe-c332a0c98ca3

best upvoted comment of a SPIEGEL reader to that:

16 years of policy competence Merkel

Federal Armed Forces downsized into nothingness.
Nord Stream 2 signed after anexxion of Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
Let the infrastructure decay with the black zero DB, motorways, energy industry.
All charities funded through taxes from small and middle incomes.
The wealth gap widened.

Please keep cooking potato soup and enjoy retirement.

👏

fracking for one thing.. fracking had almost removed oil from the international political calculus.... Biden shut down fracking and brought oil back as a political weapon...

There's more...

@mafketis
Actually no. Biden did not shut down Fracking. fractracker.org/map/national/us-oil-gas/ 1.7 million fracking rigs in the US. Fracking regulations were put in place by Obama. Regulations, not removals. Stop the Trump bullsh**ting please.

youtu.be/NnGiVPAZ0CQ

Putin: I Asked US President Bill Clinton "How Would USA Feel About Russia Joining NATO?"

Russia is able to do that fine on her own, otherwise... Why the need to expand right?

But ok... let's say this reason is warranted...

So if NATO made an agreement with Russia to perform excercises together and China would protest about, what is NATO supposed to do? Stop it?

Or if Japan protested joint naval excersises between Russia and NATO in the pacific, would Russians accept that? It would be 100% ok? :)

Oh please. The CDU under Merkel was the only party that wanted to increase the defence budget. In fact the CDU was the only party who demanded more money for the Bundeswehr in the last federal election. A few months ago Mützenich from the SPD almost managed to get Germany out of the nuclear deterrent, calling it unnecessary! He along with Scholz made sure when forming the coalition in 2017 that no additional money goes to the BW, and in 2021 that the money would decrease.

Merkel was the one who insisted that the existing sanctions remain when the SPD under foreign minister Gabriel and the opposition (FDP, AfD and Left Psrty) demanded their removal. Anyone who in Germany criticizes Merkel for being "too soft" on Putin should keep in mind that she was always pushing for a harder answer within German politics.

The CDU under Merkel wasn't existent....she deformed and changed the once old proud conservative party in something unrecognizable, purely for her.

That's why I hated her so much....I'm a natural CDU voter...I couldn't do this anymore with her as the lone ruler!

The leftists plus media alle cheered and clapped and called that "progress" or worse "modernization" but it was the destruction of conservatismus in Germany, the reason for the AfD and for the current politicial dilemma national and international!

Thank you for nothing Merkel!!! It would had been so much better if she would had joined another party after '89....she had not ties to that party or idea what the CDU meant for the history of West-Germany...it was all the same for her...she would had better joined the SPD or any other party. Germany would look better today!

She was for the CDU the same like Trump was for the Republicans....an outsider destroying an once proud party purely for political power gains!

One can only hope that the CDU remembers what she once stood for and finds her way back...but it will take years....

It is still nevertheless true that Merkel and the CDU are the last to blame for the state the BW is in. Heck Gabriel who is now publically calling for a confrontational approach with Russia spoke out in 2017 against a higher defence budget, saying that the BW as a "military bull" would frighten Germany's neighbours.

Unlike most of the SPD leadership, Merkel was never under any illusions regarding Putin. It is a historical irony, that the SPD who has flirted with pacifism in the previous years will now have to agree to an higher defence budget.

RuSSian nazis are shelling civilian homes and hospitals. Newborn babies from the neonatal intensive care in a hospital in Dnipro had to be moved to a bomb shelter to save their lives from the mongol murderers...

ndtv.com/world-news/watch-newborns-at-ukraine-hospital-moved-into-bomb-shelter-as-russia-rains-missiles-2788955

Of course RuSSian propagandists will claim that those newborn babies were "externally controlled" and had to be "demilitarised".

@Tacitus

.....let's face it Tac....german politicians are currently mostly a Trauerspiel! 🥺

Dr Duke & Paul Stevenson - This is not just a war against Russia, It is a Jewish Globalist war against Ukraine, Europe, the American People and all Mankind!

davidduke.com/dr-duke-david-stevenson-this-is-not-just-a-war-against-russia-it-is-a-jewish-war-against-ukraine-europe-the-american-people-and-all-mankind/

That Nazi?


No it isn't.

Good day people

I see strangers mourn. They shouldn`t. It is better for all Slavs this way. That Russia f*k up EU and NATO. Otherwise dictate would be prolonged till the our oblivion

As to my brotherly, and sisterly, Poland, I talked to a bird. Bird told me that if Russia one of these days give ultimatum to Poland (and entire Visegrad) to go out of NATO or Russians coming, Poland should accept. Please, accept. Why? Listen, when Visegrad is out of NATO, we from Baltic to Balkan,... we do as brat Pilsudski suggested. We form Intermarium or New Commonwealth and we have our own global civilization in a very clean and fast way. Sure, we firstly become militarily neutral and then when dust settle down we form economic union and then also military alliance and finally commonwealth, Visegrad plus Serbia (new bigger Serbia). Then countries start join us.

NATO and EU? States would be quite fine. Won`t police the world anymore but will remain one of global powers. As for EU ie western Europe, why would we care for western Europe. They provoked Russians and Russians now must sate their wrath. Better them then Poland. Its quite fine once in history western Europe to receive its share and Poland not to receive.

So far they managed to f*k up children's hospital (see #1671) and a kindergarten...

wydarzenia.interia.pl/raporty/raport-ukraina-rosja/aktualnosci/news-ochtyrka-rosjanie-zaatakowali-przedszkole-dzieci-wsrod-ranny,nId,5855169

... please Crow - stop praising those nazi bandits. You are better than that.

Time will tell if the outrage today translates into something effective, but the outrage is a point of optimism...although I'm extremely cautious to accept such changes as an already inevitable forgone conclusion. At least we're acknowledging the problem.


They can be Putin-hating, and they still should not be trusted to what needs to be done. Hopeless leftist radicals just don't have it in their DNA to deal with these types of issues correctly.

It is going to be of keen interest to see what develops in German politics over the next few years.

Last night on Deutsche Welle during a panel discussion the discussion turned to the state of the German military. They talked about the woeful state of the German military and all that, then one of the guests brought up what I thought was a very interesting and equally important point: he mentioned that contemporary social German culture is also a hurdle due to how WWII shaped today's German attitudes toward the military. He brought up the problem of very little interest in Germans wanting to join the military, and that many of those who do join are more in line with a radical nationalism--types you don't necessarily want to join the military.


I thought you said Merkel destroyed the CDU, not strengthened it. :)

A favorite authority for Russonazis.....


Telling a Nazi to stop praising nazis.... talk about a lost cause.

If Lefties applaud that can't be good....fact of life!

In Germany Lefties loved Putin....and Trump loves Putin....so....😎

War is ugly. Evil NATO pushed Ukraine on the line of fire quite well.


Russians aren`t Nazis. They are right to repel NATO far from their borders.

Russia is no Poland or Serbia. No sh** with them.

See, once in the past, before Romans (and Greeks) happened to us all, we were strong. They eaten our strength. But we bought time to Russians. So let them, brate, let them destroy NATO and EU. Its better this way for all of us.

Its chance for Slavs now from Baltic to Balkan, for Visegrad. We should use it. You see that Russians, for their own reasons, offering hand to us, to tolerate our specific interests.

Ukraine used to be part of the USSR and the earth was still spinning in the right direction.

So what's the problem if Ukraine has a pro-Russia, anti-NATO swamp instead of the current one?

Thing is if NATO had been truly at Russia's borders Ukraine would have peace today....