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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



pawian
26 Feb 2022  #2041

Back to the topic:

Polish help so far:

- full diplomatic and political support for Ukraine from the Polish government
- supplies of military technique - both Polish and foreign
- supplies of humanitarian aid
- open border for refugees and taking care of them
- fundraising actions by organisations and common Poles
- various local initiatives

and we all know that "stubbornness is a bad craft"

But the same applies to Russo-Asian savages. Their stubbornness in trying to reseize a European country is deplorable coz they will be starved by the united West in another Cold War which they can`t win. No way. Your Russo-Asian cannibal hordes will lose like Soviets did.

Crnogorac3
26 Feb 2022  #2042

And commit even more war crimes. Like Nazis during WW2 when they mercilessly shelled and bombed sieged cities, especially Warsaw.

I admire Russian seriousness in times of war. They act perfectly organized, extremely determined, rational in accordance with the goals, and yet act culturally and without any nervousness. And look at the West, schizophrenics, screaming, immoderate threats, cowardly hiding behind loud statements, visibly nervous because they are afraid for their material privileges brought to them by their centuries-old system of planetary robbery.

From what can be seen, the Russians are trying to achieve their goal with limited use of force. Surely this meant greater losses for them, because the Ukrainians can mostly oppose the military technique with which the Russians came in. But I don't think the Russians will stop here until they negotiate their terms with the Ukrainians. If necessary, surely they will turn on the air force more en masse and bring more troops from the background. It will simply bring what the Russians do not want at the moment, and that is greater destruction and civilian casualties. All in all, this will turn into a real war if it is not resolved through negotiations in the next few days.

If the Russians really wanted to level Kiev to the ground they could have done so in 1 day.

independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-putin-thermobaric-rockets-b2023880.html

The TOS1 system is a short-range rocket launcher, and it is terrifying primarily because of its thermobaric warheads, which means that a firestorm occurs after an explosion. The second charge can be aerosol, after the explosion, all the air from the environment is sucked in, not even a beetle in the ground can survive.

Histmag
26 Feb 2022  #2043

Crnogorac3 The Russians are shooting at ambulances and the hospital and you ************ dare say they don't want to murder civilians. I really lost faith in humanity in the last few days. I've always been skeptical of this ******* species. And as for Serbia, it is a pity that NATO only bombarded you, looking at your and Crow's entries, they should kill you all prophylactically because you are a deadly threat to the environment.

cms neuf
26 Feb 2022  #2044

That sounds almost as terrifying as the food in the troll farm canteen - grey gloop and chicken necks washed down with compot and lumpy kefir. The people firing those missiles will have to go back to their wives and kids and mothers - in 30 years time they will be stumbling drunk around the tram stop with their bad memories and an open bottle of spirit. Horrible what you Russians put your kids through

pawian
26 Feb 2022  #2045

If the Russians really wanted to level Kiev to the ground they could have done so in 1 day

Yes, those Russ-Asian savages can do it with nuclear weapons.

Bratwurst Boy
26 Feb 2022  #2046

Putin shunned by world as his hopes of quick victory evaporate

theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/26/the-world-shuns-pariah-putin

Russian troops facing fierce resistance as Germany abandons its postwar military stance to supply arms to Ukraine

Vladimir Putin was facing growing international isolation and the prospect of pariah status on Saturday night as long-term allies dramatically turned against him following the invasion of Ukraine, and western nations planned further decisive military and financial action against Moscow.

As his hopes of a quick victory evaporated in the face of fierce resistance by Ukrainian soldiers and armies of citizen volunteers, Russia's president was deserted by his key ally, China, and had his ultimatum demanding Kyiv's surrender defiantly brushed aside by Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

In perhaps the most striking development, Germany announced on Saturday night that it would supply Ukrainian troops with 1,000 anti-tank weapons as well as 500 Stinger missiles from its own military reserves....


Go Ukraine! ✌️

...."The Russian assault on Ukraine marks a turning point," Germany's chancellor, Olaf Scholz, said, signalling a major shift in his country's postwar military stance. "It threatens our entire postwar order. In this situation it is our duty to support Ukraine to the best of our ability in its defence against the invasive army of Vladimir Putin. Germany stands closely on the side of Ukraine."

Significantly, the German government was also said to be bowing to intense pressure from Britain, the US and Canada to ban Russia from the crucial Swift banking payments system after repeated appeals from Kyiv for the west to do so. Sources in Berlin said German ministers' views were shifting on the issue and they were actively discussing measures that "would hit the right people", having previously resisted, partly because of fears that a ban would affect the flow of funds to aid agencies in Russia.

In further blows to Putin, Hungary's leader, Viktor Orbán, long seen as friendly towards Moscow, abandoned his support, saying he would back all EU sanctions against Russia, while Turkey was reported to be considering blocking the passage of Russian naval vessels into the Black Sea.


I tell ya....that was the one step to far....Putin will so come to regret that!

Atch
26 Feb 2022  #2047

I really lost faith in humanity

Hey come on now - chin up! Look at the Ukrainian people and their courage, facing down the Russians, the man who knelt in front of a Russian tank, the woman who challenged a soldier, the ordinary Ukrainian men with no combat experience queueing up to volunteer and fight for their country's freedom. That should inspire you.

Vlad1234
26 Feb 2022  #2048

Situation is very similar to what was with Georgia. Just substitute North Osetia for DLNR.



Crow
26 Feb 2022  #2049

People are we sure we have real information? Banderists knows war propaganda very well.

After all, you know how brat Trump talked of CNN news.

Crnogorac3
26 Feb 2022  #2050

@Atch

Ukraine has no theoretical chance. Wars are fought with resources and technology, not people. Why entering cities and street fights. People have forgotten that this is not the Middle Ages. Ukraine's entire air defense system was disabled in the first half hour of the war, and now Russian helicopters and rockets are flying all over the country, making landings and doing sorties. Kiev is under attack and the army is 20 km from the government building. The main airport has been under Russian control since the first day of the war, and the breakthrough of the front is in the south, in the east and in the north. Ukraine has been left stranded by the West. It is only a matter of days before it agrees to capitulate.

pawian
26 Feb 2022  #2051

The main airport has been under Russian control

Control? hahaha How many Russ-Asian barbarian transport planes have landed there since "control" started???

Ukraine's entire air defense system was disabled in the first half hour of the war,

You are lying. It wasn`t. Russ-Asian barbarian aircraft are still shot down like partridges from the sky.

mobilise all their human resources to repel the wild hordes. The West will supply military technique.

It is already happening. Common Ukrainians volunteer en masse for National Guard battalions. Including females. I just read a lot of volunteers are turned down due to lack of weapons. Fekk! They need simple kalashnikovs which are stored by millions in Poland and other neighbouring countries.


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Crow
26 Feb 2022  #2052

Stance of Serbia >

Ivica Dacic, President of Serbian Parliament: Serbia will not take part in the fratricidal war

Dačić: Srbija neće učestvovati u bratoubilačkom ratu

mafketis
26 Feb 2022  #2053

Ukraine has no theoretical chance

Things Russonazis say. How do you feel about the mass murder of Urkainians? Filth, pure filth you are.

cruisepatron
26 Feb 2022  #2054

Look at the Ukrainian people and their courage

While I admire the courage... the government shouldn't have used civilians as human shields after consulting with USA once they figured out Russia don't want to attack civilians.

Crow
26 Feb 2022  #2055

@mafketis

Are you mafe maybe German? I ask because I had good Hungarian neighbor Franja (good man died of old age). Anyway, he once told me that he drank drinks with many nations and that Germans represent real pigs when drank. Biggest pigs, he said.

In any case, you are either drank German or drank pig. Or, both.

pawian
26 Feb 2022  #2056

the government shouldn't have used civilians

Don`t be stupid. It is Ukrainian civilians who want to defend their country`s independence. The government has nothing to do with it.

PS. It is amazing how all those sleeper trolls are coming out of their holes now after the Kremlin ordered them to wake up and engage into its propaganda wars.

AntV
26 Feb 2022  #2057

If the will of Europe sustains its present fire and my hasty research of the numbers is accurate and they spend the 2% obligation, the aggregate defense budget of the EU member states of NATO should be roughly $400 Billion. The numbers I saw on Russian defense budget is $42 Billion.

With a renewed focus on strategic military spending, Putin may have caused the exact opposite effect he was hoping for. Now, he may be facing a stronger and more cohesive NATO and isolation (instead of a place on the stage of global influencers). I wonder how happy China is going to be if the West places a premium on arms development and build up?

So Crno's admiration for today's Russian military prowess may end up not being so admirable.

World is a little scarier.

cms neuf
26 Feb 2022  #2058

Luckily for you trolls you are sat in an office, even though it's a rickety commie chair and cheap plywood desk. It's still more fun than boiling / freezing in a tank without fuel wondering why you are fighting a pointless war. Still if you ever find partners you can tell your grandkids you did your bit

cruisepatron
26 Feb 2022  #2059

The government has nothing to do with it.

Who is supplying weapons then? Who is not allowing men above 18 years to leave the country?

Atch
26 Feb 2022  #2060

Ukraine has no theoretical chance. Wars are fought with resources and technology, not people.

You're wrong. Wars are fought with people. It doesn't matter even if Ukraine is defeated their spirit will always be strong and they will prevail in the end. I'm Irish and we fought for nearly 800 years for our freedom and in the end we achieved it. You can never kill the soul of a nation. The soul is eternal.

pawian
26 Feb 2022  #2061

their spirit will always be strong and they will prevail in the end.

Exactly. And Russo-Asian savages will be forced to withdraw in disgrace, dishonoured and debased.

Putin may have caused the exact opposite effect he was hoping for.

Exactly. If a a new Cold War commences, Russ-Asian criminals will be starved financially. They will break up just like Soviets did.

Crow
26 Feb 2022  #2062

Just read. First contingents of far right Croat nazi clero-Catholic ustashe volunteers travel to Ukraine to join to local banderists.

> novosti.rs/planeta/region/1090421/rat-ukrajini-ukrajina-rat-rusija-ukrajina-rat-rusiji-2022?utm_source=connectmedia&utm_medium=b92&utm_content=article&utm_campaign=kao-u-vreme-ndh-prvi-hrvatski-dobrovoljci-odlaze-u-ukrajinu&ayu_origin=26&ayu_widget=16&ayu_post=140487

They already been there > in4s.net/ustase-u-ukrajini-docekali-ih-potomci-prostitutki-ustasa-iz-ii-svjetskog-rata/

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pawian
26 Feb 2022  #2063

novosti.rs

Stop spreading false Russ-Asian barbaric propaganda.

cruisepatron
26 Feb 2022  #2064

Putin may have caused the exact opposite effect he was hoping for.

He took the bait laid by the US. Creating high demand for US made arms while putting sanctions on Russia. All at the expensive of Ukrainians. It's really a sad world.

Atch
26 Feb 2022  #2065

In the words of my countryman Patrick Pearse who lead the 1916 Rising, "Life springs from death; and from the graves of patriot men and women spring living nations. "

Bratwurst Boy
26 Feb 2022  #2066

He took the bait laid by the US.

Not so smart then....

All at the expensive of Ukrainians. It's really a sad world.

The Ukrainians could come out of this as the big victor.....former impossible memberships in NATO and EU are now on the table, including massive financial and economical help to bring the country up on it's feet again.

Something Russia will have to do without for the coming years....

Crow
26 Feb 2022  #2067

Stop spreading false Russ-Asian barbaric propaganda.

I gave proper links. Go search more in English.

Nazis gather. Face it.

Miloslaw
26 Feb 2022  #2068

I admire Russian seriousness in times of war. They act perfectly organized,

Except that they don't.
Many of the Russian prisoners of war that the Ukrainians have taken are confused.
They thought they were on exercises......and are not ready to kill their Slav brothers.....and the Kremlin knows this.....which is why they are bringing 10,000 Chechens in, because they don't trust ordinary Russians to finish the job.

@Crnogorac3

Putin has miscalculated on a massive scale here.
Not only has the world finaly woken up to how corrupt and evil the Russian leaders are, the Russian people are waking up too.
Why do.you think reports of the Russian army.advancing on Kyiv said that were 30 miles away and today's reports are the same?
Russian generals are having second thoughts.....as are all the young protesters in Russia too.
This war needs to end within Russia with an uprising and internal coup.
Otherwise WW3 is looming.....

Crow
26 Feb 2022  #2069

Otherwise WW3 is looming.....

I wouldn`t tell it twice.

If NATO push Russians nukes will fly sooner then later.

You Milo maybe think God will spare you for insemination?

pawian
26 Feb 2022  #2070

Face it.

No, you face it. Your ignoble support for criminal acts by Russ-Asian barbarians caused that you lost all Polish support here. Bugger off.


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