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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Crnogorac3
27 Feb 2022  #2101

Russia doesn't 'especially need' diplomatic ties with West - ex-president Medvedev

By Andrew Osborn



MOSCOW, Feb 26 (Reuters) - Russia doesn't really need diplomatic ties with the West anymore, ex-president and top security official Dmitry Medvedev said on Saturday, shrugging off sanctions imposed on Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine.

Medvedev said the sanctions gave Russia a good reason to pull out of a dialogue on strategic (nuclear) stability and, potentially, from the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (New START) signed with Washington in 2010 and extended in 2021.

In comments on his verified page on Russian social network VK, Medvedev wrote: "We don't especially need diplomatic relations... It's time to padlock the embassies and continue contacts looking at each other through binoculars and gun sights."

Medvedev, a close ally of President Vladimir Putin and deputy head of Russia's security council, said the West's "wonderful (sanctions) will not change a thing, of course".

Moscow will continue its military operations in Ukraine until it had achieved goals defined by President Vladimir Putin as "demilitarisation and "denazification", he said.

"The sanctions are being imposed for one simple reason - political impotence arising from their (the West's) inability to change Russia's course," Medvedev wrote.

He condemned as "really unfair" a decision by the Council of Europe, a rights watchdog, to suspend Russian membership, but added the move provided a good reason "to slam the door" for good on the organisation, giving Russia an opportunity to restore the death penalty for dangerous criminals.

reuters.com/world/europe/russia-no-longer-needs-diplomatic-ties-with-west-ex-president-medvedev-2022-02-26/?fbclid=IwAR33d6ytdJNM0CjeRsC6Zjcj4ADn0_VbOF72Q2NEbw43IYB3IUIv6n0l4ls

pawian
27 Feb 2022  #2102

Russia has hundreds of billions in gold.

How long will the barbarians be able to keep their gold reserves? Do you think sanctions will be lifted after a week or two?? :):):) How much has Russ central bank already spend on defending collapsing rubel after the Russ-Asian barbarians commenced the invasion??? How long will the reserves suffice for?

We don't especially need diplomatic relations.

But barbarians need Western money. Do you think China and North Korea will buy Russ-Asian resources and make up for the profits lost in the West?

Crnogorac3
27 Feb 2022  #2103

No need for bloodshed:

youtu.be/zvWiPlbZSQ0

pawian
27 Feb 2022  #2104

Russia doesn't 'especially need' diplomatic ties with West

Darling, you are nuts if you really believe that Russ-Asian barbarians can win another Cold War with the West.

Crow
27 Feb 2022  #2105

No SWIFT means no way to sell oil or gas to anyone.

Listen.

As my professor of Microeconomy told me, when you don`t understand things, change the angle. Look from the angle of self-sustainability. See? Russia is self-sustainable.

Now. If USA force `no SWIFT` for Russia it means cancelling the EU. THAT is why Germany hesitated.

As from the Russian side of mirror. Well, Russia anyway don`t need Disneyland anymore.

I am now completely convinced you are retarded.

God bless you. As petar Petrovic Njegos said `Happy is the one who does not have sanity, for he lives in happiness.`

gumishu
27 Feb 2022  #2106

Day 4 and they still haven't achieved any of their goals

there are reports that they reached the centre of Kharkiv, sadly

Crow
27 Feb 2022  #2107

Trump said all when called Putin a genius. Don`t hate Trump because of that, he is only objective observer.

Biden? He would in history go down as great fucke* of the USA and destroyer of the EU. What you expected from US Democrats

Crnogorac3
27 Feb 2022  #2108

This regarding the SWIFT story is more of a show for the appalled EU public.

Getting excluded from Swift would significantly complicate Russian trade, foreign investment, remittances and the central bank's management of the economy. Iranian banks sanctioned by the EU were cut off in 2012.

Part of the debate about whether to OK a Swift cutoff of Russia is how to keep open some financial channels to buy Russian oil and natural gas. The EU imports 40% of its gas from Russia. There is also the issue of Western bank exposure to Russia-money owed that would be difficult to collect if Swift is unplugged. Foreign banks have about $121 billion in assets owed to them by Russian-based entities, according to the Bank for International Settlements. Of those, about $14.7 billion were owed to U.S. banks. A larger chunk-$25 billion-were each owed to Italian and French banks.

There are workarounds to Swift that could allow payments even after disconnecting Russia from Swift. Fitch Ratings said banks could use other-albeit less efficient and more expensive-messaging systems such as telex. Russia also has developed its own payment system. While it currently has only 23 foreign banks connected to it, more could join if Swift is no longer an option.

China is another alternative. Beijing has its own payment system, too, with more take-up by international banks than Russia's. By driving Russia and China together, critics say, a Swift cutoff could erode the supremacy of the dollar-denominated global financial system.

Cutting Russian banks off Swift altogether "would have an immediate big impact that Russia would quickly mitigate with other messaging vehicles," said Richard Nephew, a former senior U.S. State Department sanctions official. "It would cause the Russians a lot of headaches, but I think its value has been dramatically overstated."


wsj.com/articles/eu-leaders-weigh-cutting-russia-out-of-global-payment-system-swift-11645888337

Ahahaha, $ 121 billion exposure of Russian debtors to Western banks. Well, it will take as long as tomorrow for the bankers to set fire to Scholz, Macron and the rest of the team of morons...

GefreiterKania
27 Feb 2022  #2109

there are reports that they reached the centre of Kharkiv

So what? Kharkiv is a 1.5 million city. It's not a big deal to enter a big city - it's a big deal to exit it alive. Remember Grozny?

Grozny or any other large city in a modern war for that matter. Nazis at one point controlled 90% of Stalingrad but it didn't end well for them, did it? :)

Cojestdocholery
27 Feb 2022  #2110

What for Germany is waiting? Go with swift now.

Bratwurst Boy
27 Feb 2022  #2111

Nazis at one point controlled 90% of Stalingrad but it didn't end well for them, did it? :)

That's actually the thing what puzzles me the most....

Let's imagine Putin "wins"....the russian flags now fly over Ukraine....urraaaa!

And then????

Russian troops occupy a hostile country....with a population that positively hates them....the international community (with a few exceptions) sees and treats Putin as a pariah....economical and political relationships are being cut off....etc.

The longer he is in power and sits in Ukraine the worse the isolation of a shunned Russia will become as the financial and economical sanctions start to hurt more the longer they are in place...

WHAT is he thinking? What are his supporters thinking?

I'm asking all pro-Putinistas....help me out here....explain it to me:

Tell me...how do you think that will play out in...say....5 years from now on.....imagine you won.....where do you see Russia and Europe then....TELL ME!

Crnogorac3
27 Feb 2022  #2112

there are reports that they reached the centre of Kharkiv

They say in the West that the Russians are surrendering en masse while conquering Kharkov and Kiev?

GefreiterKania
27 Feb 2022  #2113

WHAT is he thinking?

It is easier to say what he WAS thinking.

He WAS thinking that: Kiev would fall in 3-4 hours, Ukrainian army would offer very little resistance, that he would be able to install his puppet government withing 24-48 hours, that West's response would be weak and disorganised, that NATO and US are weak after withdrawal from Afghanistan, that the world, or at least his own people, would fall for his propaganda. That's what he WAS thinking.

What he IS thinking, however, now that reality struck him in his botox-filled face, is a riddle.

Cojestdocholery
27 Feb 2022  #2114

him in his botox-filled face,

Is that botox not fat?

Crow
27 Feb 2022  #2115

This regarding the SWIFT story is more of a show for the appalled EU public.

Drang Nach Osten ended once and for all. This time is the end game.

I don`t like EU but I for sure didn`t like to see it goes down so soon. It literally drowned in its own greed. Incompetence of US just accelerated that but EU facing its own truth. They shouldn`t mess with Slavs.

Slavs ie Sarmatians prevailed and persevered.

GefreiterKania
27 Feb 2022  #2116

Is that botox not fat?

Definitely botox. They want to make him look eternally young (the guy is about 70 years old now), like Lenin's corpse. :)

Sarmatians

Don't use this word. Don't insult Polish people.

PolAmKrakow
27 Feb 2022  #2117

@Crow
See how retarded you are. You clearly forget that Trump was impeached in part for denying 400 million in aid to Ukraine. Trump is a Russian puppet.

@Crnogorac3
They are not inside Kiev. I am actually speaking with people in Kiev, and those people are out hunting and killing and capturing Russians who try to get into the city. Killing them happily. Kharkov unfortunately will fall today, and the people I know there are fighting until the run out of ammunition. These people are hero's, your people a meat.

Crnogorac3
27 Feb 2022  #2118

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Crow
27 Feb 2022  #2119

@PolAmKrakow

You don`t understand. Trump is himself a genius. He realized Disneyland is over and Multi-Polar world comes anyway, with Russia or without Russia. So he wanted deal with Russia but certain magnates obviously didn`t. Those magnates mistaken.

PolAmKrakow
27 Feb 2022  #2120

@Crow
Trump is going to prison for tax evasion and other things you moron. His own accountants are testifying against him. You really need to get out of your moms basement and revisit what the real history of Trump is.

@Crnogorac3
We have seen the enemy since 1917, and we have never taken the bullseye off of them. Now, the gun is loaded and ready to take you out once and for all. Let me know how your dirt sandwiches taste in a few weeks.

Crow
27 Feb 2022  #2121

Don't use this word. Don't insult Polish people.

Sarmatian is the Serbian name that went thru Greek and Roman transcription and linguistics. That is why there is that Serbian ie Sarmatian line along the Danube from Baltic to Balkan, and traces of name throughout Europe, Anatolia, Near East and Eurasia all to the Ind river. Its the primordial vein of our kind, established with slow migrations from south to north, following the melting of glacial ice. Vein that gave birth to Sarmatians/Slavs, Whites, West and Europe.

That is why Poles have legends of their Sarmatian origin. Of course, they are of Sarmatian origin. Legends remembered truth.

Cojestdocholery
27 Feb 2022  #2122

Sarmatian is the Serbian name that went thru Greek and Roman transcription

What serbian university have you attended? Just so I could warn the others.

Trump is a Russian puppet.

lol!

pawian
27 Feb 2022  #2123

there are reports that they reached the centre of Kharkiv, sadly

No fear. It is a known tactics already used many times in urban warfare before. Let the enemy inside, encircle them and finally destroy. Patriotic Chechens used it effectively in the first Chechen war when they massacred Russ barbarians in the center of Grozny.

Crnogorac3
27 Feb 2022  #2124

1

Only remaining road out of Mariupol in blue as Russians close in.

Israeli/CIA funded Azov is shooting people attempting to leave. They need human shields as they know they will be wiped out. These thugs will not get the same treatment as regular Ukrainian soldiers.

pawian
27 Feb 2022  #2125

It literally drowned in its own greed. Incompetence of US just accelerated

Crow, is that still you? Coz I noticed a considerable improvement in your English, especially vocabulary and you added the usage of nice metaphors. Has a more competent troll taken over your account or you are running all your posts through google translator?

Funny.

Bratwurst Boy
27 Feb 2022  #2126

Tell me...how do you think that will play out in...say....5 years from now on.....imagine you won.....where do you see Russia and Europe then....TELL ME!

Crnogorac3? Won't you answer my question?

Crow
27 Feb 2022  #2127

People. People. Just go count the ships waiting to unload along the American coast. That's it. Trump wanted to avoid it.

Funny.

Its not funny. I became more interested. Naive me. As if I can affect your lobotomized brain.

pawian
27 Feb 2022  #2128

Naive me

Yes, you were naive thinking that Poles would go with barbaric Russo-Asia against Ukrainians who are defending not only their motherland but also Poland and whole Europe. Now you have made your choice - you have chosen Russo-Asia. Let it be, but you should know that your mission in the PF as a little crazy but still harmless Serbian patriot is over. Now all Poles here will see you what you really are: Russ-Asian barbaric troll with Nazi tendencies.

Goodbye, Crow. Welcome, nasty Russo troll. Welcome and bugger off.

Crnogorac3
27 Feb 2022  #2129

Locals remove Ukrainian flag in Zaporojie city:

youtu.be/sr4HX5_iSqs

Bratwurst Boy
27 Feb 2022  #2130

WOW!!!

Scholz speaks right now in the Bundestag....he announced a "special fund" for the now beginning rearmament of the german armed forces of 1 BILLION Euros....WOW!

Additionally to the 2% for the NATO....Hammer! (Yes, he just said that!)

(The leftists in the Bundestag are spitting and screaming hearing that, heh:)

He calls it "Zeitenwende"!

(Man I'm so glad Merkel is already gone)


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