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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades



Novichok
28 Feb 2022  #2581

Either way, a brave man.

If he is single. If he is married and has children, he is an irresponsible moron.

Lenka
28 Feb 2022  #2582

Anyone read the leaked victory statement?

Miloslaw
28 Feb 2022  #2583

Russians are finished in Ukraine. Goodbye, losers

Whatever happens in the short term, this will be the long term outcome and Russia will be an outcast for decades.
Russia will just get poorer and poorer until one day the Russian people will have had enough and rise up against whichever tyrant is ruling their country then.

Russia is the only country in Europe that has never tasted freedom......it is long overdue.

Crnogorac3
28 Feb 2022  #2584

The West has had plenty of time to motivate the UKR to start implementing Minsk II. The highlight was one meeting in 2019, when Zelensky, Merkel, Macron and Putin were sitting at the conference.

Putin talks about not starting with Minsk II. Meanwhile, Zelensky is dying of laughter.
Mutti was then supposed to slap one behind his ears for his lack of education. It's too late now.

Certainly what I am writing now seems very cruel. War is the continuation of politics by the ultimate means, and the result of war, whatever it may be, will help solve insurmountable political problems. And maybe make some new ones :(

pawian
28 Feb 2022  #2585

Certainly what I am writing now seems very cruel.

All those lies of yours and Velund`s? No, they aren`t cruel , just pathetic.

All this mold is being told to fcuk off by normal decent people.

You stinking liar. Brave decent Russians are beaten and detained by Putin Gestapo during anti-war protests. Those less brave but still decent stay at home. Russia is full of decent people who are too intimidated to protest. But when they realise there are so many of them, the storm they unleash will crush all Russ-Asian barbarians.

Sankt Petersburg today


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Miloslaw
28 Feb 2022  #2586

The West has had plenty of time to motivate the UKR to start implementing Minsk II

How about The Russians stick to the original agreement?
Ukraine gets rid of all its nuclear weapons and Russia guarantees Ukraines sovereignty.....what happened to that?

pawian
28 Feb 2022  #2587

Ukraine gets rid of all its nuclear weapons and Russia guarantees Ukraines sovereignty

Wow! Now you impressed me with this good one. I almost completely forgot.

AntV
28 Feb 2022  #2588

@Miloslaw

I think the Ukrainians should continue doing what they are doing. It's not Ukraine but some of the Western leaders who I have a problem with.

My point is NATO and EU members clamoring on about Ukraine becoming a member of either alliance will further embolden Putin to stay the course (because that's why he's in Ukraine right now: to keep Ukraine away from the West) and dash any hopes of finding a ceasefire.

Do you think Ukraine ascending to EU or NATO membership will send Russia home? Or, would that only draw the EU and NATO into a hot war with Russia?

How does this unjustified and unprovoked attacked on Ukraine all of a sudden make them EU and NATO worthy, when it has been consistently determined they do not meet the criteria for membership? Is being a charity case a new criterion of membership?

Emotional decision more times than not create problems that could've been avoided.

Let's arm the Ukes and sanction Russia to hell and back to help them out.

Crnogorac3
28 Feb 2022  #2589

@pawian

Do you support something like this?

Discriminatory policies against Russophiles intensified in 2021, symbolized by the implementation in January of a language law requiring that all public-facing people address others in Ukrainian, speaking Russian only when asked. The media empire of Victor Medvedchuk, Putin's friend and leader of the Opposition Party - For Life, was shut down and his assets seized. He was arrested for treason and put under house arrest. Anyone who opposed these policies was deemed treasonous. A government minister announced a twenty-five-year plan with the goal was of ensuring that Russophiles and their children would learn to talk and think right. It was this constitution of Ukraine as "anti-Russia," whose soul and breath was the denial that Ukraine had ever been a part of such a despised and feared identity, that turned out to be Putin's red line.

mafketis
28 Feb 2022  #2590

Has anyone actually formally invited Ukraine to join NATO?

The topic is not a big feature of Russian discourse but mostly something picked up by Putin stans in the west....

Miloslaw
28 Feb 2022  #2591

Russia is full of decent people.But when they realise there are so many of them, the storm they unleash will crush all Russ-Asian barbarians.

Agreed 100%!

AntV
28 Feb 2022  #2592

Not necessarily NATO, but the sitting President of the EU said during a press conference in the last day or two that the EU wants Ukraine in the EU now.

politico.eu/article/ukraine-eu-commission-chief-von-der-leyen-invite/

pawian
28 Feb 2022  #2593

Discriminatory policies against Russophiles intensified in 2021,

Darling, how many years after the seizure of Crimea and Donbas by Russo-Asian savages??? Ukrainians are fully justified - blame your Kremlin beasts for Ukrainian choices.

Histmag
28 Feb 2022  #2594

twitter.com/verkhovna_rada/status/1498401469422256136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1498401469422256136%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiadomosci.wp.pl%2Fwojna-na-ukrainie-rosyjskie-konwoje-zmierzaja-na-kijow-relacja-na-zywo-6742045108247520a

The Russians get food rations that are 7 years past due. See after unpacking what the crap they're giving the soldiers to eat. This army must be completely demoralized. After you eat it, you can only throw up. It is not surprising that Russian soldiers are looting food from stores en masse.

AntV
28 Feb 2022  #2595

@mafketis

But, the entangling of EU members in NATO, in effect, gives an EU member practical NATO cover. Even though there is no treaty that binds that cover. It's not a leap in logic for Putin (or anyone else) to view Ukraine as an EU member as not having NATO support. Or, do you think otherwise?

Paulina
28 Feb 2022  #2596

If he is single. If he is married and has children, he is an irresponsible moron.

Well, sorry, but someone has to defend the country and treat the injured. You think that professional soldiers don't have wives, children, mothers, fathers, etc?

Miloslaw
28 Feb 2022  #2597

This army must be completely demoralized

They are.
Many of them do not understand why they are there.
They don't want to kill Ukrainians that look just like them.
They lack food, water and fuel due to poor Russian logistics and The Ukrainians are killing them in large numbers!
Which is why so many of them are surrendering.
Putin thought he was being smart when he sent The Chechens in.....But The Ukrainians dealt with them too.....are The Russians brave enough to overthrow Putin?

Time will.tell.

An internal uprising is the only way to end this nightmare.
And the chief beneficiaries of such an uprising will be the Russian people.

pawian
28 Feb 2022  #2598

The Russians get food rations that are 7 years past due.

And those brutes want to run an Empire. Pathetic.

Hey, savages! You want an Empire?? So feed your fekking soldiers first. And buy them new boots. Otherwise - forget it. hahahaha

. Poland, Bulgaria and Slovakia are going to supply Ukraine with planes.

70 altogether. Excellent move. 28 from Poland. Good luck, Ukrainian pilots. Shoot them like flying ducks from the sky. hahaha

PS. I hope spare parts and armament are also included.

pawian
28 Feb 2022  #2599

Meanwhile, Zelensky

A little man who is a giant, in fact.


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Novichok
28 Feb 2022  #2600

Do you support something like this?

I bet I am the only one that reads your posts because the Russia haters hate inconvenient facts even more since those shut them up. Then all they have are stupid one-liners and personal insults. See #2600.

Well, sorry, but someone has to defend the country and treat the injured.

If these are his priority, I am cool with that but that still makes him a moron in my opinion. My priorities are different.

Novichok
1 Mar 2022  #2601

but someone has to defend the country

When the country faces extermination. Ukraine does not face extermination. See: Crimea. Or the Baltics under the evil empire, the USSR. I don't recall mass executions there or in Poland under Soviet domination. I do recall that I had to take Russian in high school.

BTW, being a hero and an idiot are not mutually exclusive. There are many examples of both lumped together. In fact, this is the very worst combination. See: the Warsaw Uprising.

Novichok
1 Mar 2022  #2602

I wonder if Russia and Putin noticed that the existential threat to them tends to come from the West. First, that French idiot. Then, a German lunatic. Even Lenin found his way to Russia from Western Europe. In his luggage: Das Kapital - a nice little book that destroyed more lives than the US nukes.

All from the West - that oasis of deep thoughts, progress, fine arts, crematoria, and every vile -ism known to mankind.
Just curious, is there a country in Western Europe that didn't have colonies?

AntV
1 Mar 2022  #2603

I've never experienced your depth of loathing, so I'm genuinely curious to know what and/or where you find worth a damn here on this Earth? :)

pawian
1 Mar 2022  #2604

hate inconvenient facts even more since those shut them up.

Darling, stop lying. So far you have been shut up coz you still didn`t refer to my comments in 2558. :))

I don't recall mass executions there or in Poland under Soviet domination.

Because you are a complete ignoramus about history, we have established it many times here before.

Oathbreaker
1 Mar 2022  #2605

@Novichok
Do you even know how you sound like? You are basically saying that Nazi German concentration camps were all good, people got striped clothes gifted to them, you didn't see anyone getting gassed or shot and guards were so nice! They gave you cookies! And that everyone being a prisoner there were morons! Tfu, you are a disgusting piece of filth!

mafketis
1 Mar 2022  #2606

Slavs of Ukraine perceive Serbia as brotherly country

That approves of the invasion? Great brother act there...

view Ukraine as an EU member as not having NATO support. Or, do you think otherwise?

I think you're thinking in categories that are alien to Putin look up the video I posted a while ago.

PolAmKrakow
1 Mar 2022  #2607

@AntV
Good post. It is past being over for Russia now. If Ukraine does not fall with this current convoy from Belarus on the way, the Ukraine will be in the EU. This is inevitable now. NATO? I don't think so, but it could happen.

For Russia it is over. This stain will last for at least a decade. The sanctions in place will remain until Ukraine is free and borders are secure, which may take years. Russia will be nothing more than it was for 50 years of the USSR at that point. Technology will not be available to them and western goods will be gone. A newer and much more harsh cold war is upon us.

Soon, it would not surprise me to see the internet be shut off to Russia. That would be a devastating blow, and it could easily happen as it has been done by China in China for its own people on occasion. Imagine being completely locked within your own borders. Now that would be poetic Russian justice.

Lots of Ukraine people in Krakow now. It was a bit stunning to see so many lined up to receive aid packages. Every one of them being taken care of. Poles are giving and it really is refreshing to the unity. This is a unity Russians will never know.

Cojestdocholery
1 Mar 2022  #2608

On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians

What historicla unity? Ukrainias are result of the Polish - Lithuanian Union same like Belarus. If not for that there wouldn't be any ukrainians, the fact they were ruled by Moscow for some times means very little here.

GefreiterKania
1 Mar 2022  #2609

Authorities of Zaporozhye Oblast report that Russian soldier shot a passer-by in Berdiansk because the man refused to give him his cellphone. Meanwhile, civilians are still killed, maternity wards hit with rockets and the nazi invasion continues.

Hague Tribunal has already started proceedings against Russia. RuSSian nazis will have their Nuremberg.

PolAmKrakow
1 Mar 2022  #2610

@GefreiterKania
Now Ukraine pilots are in Poland picking up planes that are provided by EU. Just in time to bomb the $hit out of that 40 mile long convoy. If Ukraine can survive this second wave it will be a miracle honestly. Too much Russian meat to process.

Now a report out that Putin told Trump nuclear weapons were always an option with Ukraine, only Trump didn't understand the threat of hypersonic weapons. Embarrassing that the US could not find better candidates than Hilary and Trump, both should be in prison. With any luck DeSantis runs next.


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