Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

you dont know what it is and what come from. even people who post this video said they not sure if items were stolen
and i doubt paratrooper would steal garden soil ,for such thing is military court.and item is worth 10 dollars.
data on cctv dodgy,weight of items on video doesn't mach to data you posted. no where near. project who discovered it-obscure ,dodgy with unrealistic fantasies on their site

and even they said, they dont know what is happening here.


bro i dont like lies and ppl who spread lies. especially for such low reasons- to dehumanize others.

I am with you, man, except that here nothing is evidence enough if it doesn't fit their Russia-hating mental disorder.
They have to hate Russia to justify the stupidity of allowing 4 million additional Ukrainians in and changing Poland's demographics without the upside.
How fu*cking stupid...

these are not Russian -red armband

@gregy741, they're Russian. From what I remember those that wear red armbands are from Donetsk and Luhansk separatist republics:

en.royanews.tv/news/34404/2022-02-24


How do you know?


At least one product comes from a Ukrainian national chain store. How do you explain this?


Not in the Russian army. Not for stealing from "Nazis", "ukrops", "hohols". Gregy741, on what planet are you living? Russians are destroying Ukraine, killing and raping it's people, turning the country and it's economy into ruin and you think that Russian soldiers would get into trouble for stealing stuff? Do you remember that unboxed shlifmashinka in that Russian commander's BMP? If even commanders are stealing...

those are not Russians.you said Russian soldiers. Russian allies ,yes. donetsk have red bands ,lughansk red/white
i know you post bonkers and trying too weasel your way out

@gregy741, that's what I've read and I've seen them wearing red armbands in videos, but I don't know if only soldiers from those separatist republics wear them. In that article, for example, it's written that those captured soldiers wearing red armbands are from 423rd Yampol Motorized Rifle Regiment - which is part of Russian Ground Forces:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/423rd_Guards_Yampolsky_Motor_Rifle_Regiment

So maybe Russian troops stationing in those republics wear red armbands too? Or they wear red armbands for some other reason and it doesn't have anything to do with those republics. I don't know.

Either way - they're a part of the invading army, they take orders from Russia.


Now wait a minute... Pro-Putin Russians claim that those people are Russians... And I guess they identify themselves as Russians? So who are they according to you?


Where?


How and out of what? I'm an honest person, I may not know everything, but I'm not trying to weasel my way out of anything.

hahahaha
well if thats the case ,that donbas people are Russians,therefore supermarket was Russian not Ukrainian. lol
you wrote:
""Russian soldiers stealing stuff from an Ukrainian supermarket"
no matter how you turn thing around,it make zero sense.
ahhh now i see your "logic"
shops in donbas are ukrainians but if some donbas citizen steal from it ,he is russian . hahahahahahahaha
ok


why you care what others say? you are the one making claim!
beside, being ethnic russian doesnt make you soldier of Russian armed forces. you said "russian soldier "

I don't claim that, pro-Putin Russians do. I also got an impression that they view themselves as Russians, considering that they supposedly wanted to separate themselves from Ukraine due to Russian sentiments. So, who are they according to you?


Shops on the Ukrainian territory are Ukrainian. I somehow doubt that there any national Ukrainian chain stores left in the Donetsk and Luhansk separatist republics. Are they?

And even if they were - why Russian soldiers would buy stuff in Donetsk and Luhansk republics and transport them all the way to Belarus to sent them to Russia?


First of all "Russian" is not only a nationality, but also ethnicity. So those could be ethnically Russian soldiers even if not officialy part of the Russian army. Secondly, as I already wrote, it looks like that Russian units wear those red armbands too. So they could be either.

But, fine, I'm going to satisfy your sudden need for being precise - those were either Russian soldiers or soldiers from the separatist republics of Donetsk and Luhansk. Makes no difference to me though, since they're all taking orders from Putin anyway.

Reports was also that Russian solders fcuking everything that moves and move everything that fails to move. ;) But then, SUDDENLY, someone fired for weird fakes, harming Ukraine image in the world. Show me a liar, and I'll show you a thief, as French proverb say...

Ukrainians have the right to work, the right to child benefits, and if like me you employ them then ZUS is due for them, though there are some exemptions

They are hard workers and smart - they are welcome here while they try and escape the thieves.

@cms neuf
Well said. This is what the trolls miss, and what people on the ground see. Speaking to business owners I know, restaurants, small shops, and small grocery stores around Rynek, business is way up. Largely due to Ukraine refugee's and tourism returning. Krakow in May was as busy as it usually is in July at the height of tourism season. While there are issues from time to time, they are minor issues. These people will be here for years as Ukraine is rebuilt, and everyone just needs to get used to it.

Russians on the other hand will have no place to go in Europe even when the war ends. They are not going to be welcome even when they can travel again. There will be a drawn out price to be paid even by average Russian people. So be it. Happy gulag biatches!

A photo of Russian tankists bringing gifts from Russia for Ukrainian children in liberated areas...



... of course I realise that this incorrigible bunch of Russophobes on PF will now start claiming that those things are stolen from Ukrainians. Some people are beyond help.

@GefreiterKania
Stunning photo when you look at the "gifts" set against the backdrop of all those bombed out and unlivable apartment buildings. "Hey Olga, sorry about whacking your daddy, and then raping your mommy in front of you, how about a barbie with an arm blown off to make it up to you? How old are you anyway and what are you doing later tonight?" The look on this scumbags face is the look of Russia's future.

But there are photos, videos and other sources and reports corroborating that Russian soldiers are comitting all kinds of war crimes and that those are not rare incidents :(:

"Stories of torture emerging out of Kherson":

bbc.com/news/world-europe-61607410

"Some of the worst were burn marks on genitals, a gunshot wound to the head of a girl who was raped and burns from an iron on a patient's back and stomach. The patient told me two wires from a car battery were attached to his groin and he was told to stand on a wet rag", the doctor adds."

"The BBC is not the only one investigating what is going on in Kherson. Both the UN Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine and Human Rights Watch have told us they are also concerned about the allegations of torture and enforced disappearances.

Belkis Wille, from Human Rights Watch, says the testimony gathered by the BBC is consistent with what they are hearing."

hes not russsian soldier
this image is from popasna
units taking part in final liberation there ,were dnr ,kadyrowcy and wagners.
bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61643533

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Popasna

hes dnr most likely

It's called "Making the city conform to the building codes of Russkij Mir"

Bloomberg is reporting it will take three weeks to train Ukraine soldiers on the new MLRS. With shipments expected from the UK which the US will then backfill, we can see that before the end of June, these systems will be deployed. Putin and the Orc's have a very small window to accomplish tasks now before the fight can really be brought to them.

Surely, DNR are Russians fighting to be liberated from evil Ukrainian oppression? So, I wasn't wrong when I said Russian.


Nah, he doesn't look muslim to me (no beard).


Nah, he doesn't look wagner-nazi to me (not Aryan enough).

And what's your point anyway? Are you saying that native Russian soldiers are incapable to find it in their hearts to bring gifts to Ukrainian children? Are you a Russophobe in need of denazification?

still, this was not a Russian soldier. Russians didnt take part in liberation of popasna.
he was from lughansk unit, them and wagners took the town at the end.


am sure some do. some do crimes on streets of london,paris.
but nobody call brits or french mongol animals cus of this.
hard to understand?
and so far i didnt see a single remotely close evidence of Russian soldiers stealing things. not one
i tho, you guys on PF are experts in russian crimes. you didnt bring much
so victims in popasna were ukra but thieves from next village are lughnsk russians???
hows that work in your head?

Wait a minute... So whatever bad is done to Ukrainians it can't be done by Russians, according to you? lol It's either DNR or Wagnerovites or Kadyrovites? But aren't Kadyrovites Chechens? Chechenya is part of Russia, so, surely, Chechens/Kadyrovites are Russians, yes? Or aren't they? Perhaps you are going to tell me now that Buryats who, among others, raped and murdered in Bucha and Irpin aren't Russians too? You racist!

Gregy741, here you have a thorough investigative news report about Russian soldiers sending most probably their loot from border cities to Russia:

zona.media/article/2022/05/26/marauders

There's an English version - scroll down and click it.

"Following that publication, Mediazona compiled an expanded list of towns to monitor that included all the branches of CDEK near the borders with Ukraine. We put together a new map of shipments and analysed several dozen hours of footage from the security camera in Valuyki in Russian Belgorod Oblast."

Ask pro-Putin Russians and Russian propaganda stars. They'll explain everything to you, I'm sure...


I've got an impression that you're living in some kind of La La Land. A total denial.
There was crime in the streets of New York and Chicago, I'm sure, when Soviet soldiers were looting, raping, murdering and burning whole villages in Poland and later stealing whole factories to the Soviet Union. How can you compare crime in peace time where there's police with war during which hate-filled, brainwashed soldiers of an invading army are committing war crimes without it getting investigated and punished? You can't be that stupid?

Why are you using the word "mongol" as if it was a racial slur? Mongol logos and ethos are a part of wide Russian ethnicity and identity that they themselves are proud of. Once again I have to refer you to the works of inestimable Russian literary genius - Александр Александрович Блок.

Seriously, I now begin to think that behind your mask of a pro-Putin Russia supporter there is a nasty Russophobe hiding, in dire need of denazification.

absolutely garbage.
how on earth you imagine soldier leaving hes military base,with washing machine on hes back going to kursk to post parcel to home in siberia?

in war condition?
this is so stupid,can only be born in 7 brain cells cranial area.
and where they are storing such things? in military base?
and when they move location ,they ask permission to quickly jump out to kursk to post parcel?

Even the data from the company who transport the looted good is in the public domain, addresses, names, details of shipments.

@gregy741, what military base? I'm guessing they went with the loot from Ukraine, sent it and then went wherever they were supposed to.


I'm guessing that you haven't even read the whole thing.

huh? so you think he put washing machine on a tank and then he drive this tank to kursk?
you really cant understand what am telling you? iff he steals washing machine duriing combat mission,hes required to come back to military base after sortie is finished.

so what he gunna do with this washing machine?ppl seriously. is not that difficult

@gregy741, Russian soldiers were stealing civillian cars of Ukrainians and putting "Z" on them. But I wouldn't be surprised if they were storing the loot in their bases, yeah.


This:

techspot.com/news/94589-russian-tanks-using-chips-household-appliances-due-sanctions.html

omg.. this is crazy.
let me explain it to you.
soldier CANNOT leave base and go to city like kursk to post parcel. even when their rota is done,they being transported by military trucks to main regional bases

such as Crimea ,then train to home all the way back to Moscow . or to regions where they live.
they cant just leave military base in combat zone,and go to city located 200 miles away and post fkin parcel

Enough have posted them and been filmed doing it.

show me