Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

You mean "evacuee"

Oh, sorry, I didn't know - I assumed that he's a soldier based on what he's wearing, but you're right:

womenua.today/en/yurij-butusov/

"He has exposed many corruption cases and other crimes committed by the power elite. Censor.net, which was created by Butusov is among the most popular Ukrainian news portal. The main topic covered by Butusov currently is the situation in Ukraine - Russia's aggression and the military activities in Donbas."

:)


Hmm, an ethnic Russian being a chief editor of a "nationalist" Ukrainian news site? Okaaaay :)))


I see what I see in the video... Where is the Russian hero captain Furduy now? :D I mean, we k now what he looks like, his name, surname, his unit... Maybe Russian state TV will be able to find him ;D

good question, you the one claiming he is deserter. now you say, ypu dont know what happened to him?maybe serving in another uniit?
abandoning position by recon unit is not desertion
vehicle is marked with "o" its special force recon unit

@gregy741, how do you know it's a special force recon unit? I only recall that vehicles marked "O" were said to be coming from Belarus territory... 🤔

Russia has started its default - missed an interest payment today and with no takers for its low grade oil then it will be in full default next month. I think it will end up asking China for money but the Chinese understandably won't want to get too close to the declining empire of the drunkards

It's bad news for foreign trolls on the payroll too - soon no dollars left to fund these desperate losers

i seen them using recon stuff.and special operation stuff. they are not normal "z"
you can even see their equipment here. its special forces recon stuff.
thats not even relevant. i asked you about deserter.was he found walking on the streets of Paris?
maybe,they got caught by overwhelming force,couldn't get back to vehicle and retreated. but thats not desertion.

All irellevent.
Russia is not winning this war
They might try to claim it as a partial viictory.
But even that is doubtful now.

Have you guys read about the Ukrainian resistance movemenr in occupied Ukrine?

@gregy741, there's a link to a Facebook post of that journalist Yuri Butusov:

m.facebook.com/butusov.yuriy/posts/7756611747712387

A fragment for those who don't have access to Facebook:

"Захопили та розпакували БМП-1 командира 8-і роти 35-і гвардійської мотострілецької бригади з міста Алейськ капітана Дмитрия Фурдуя. БМП в ідеальному стані, потім покажу де та як ми їх знайшли це БМП біля села Білогорівка, на самому березі Сіверського Донця, в 100 метрах від зайнятого росіянами берега. Після цього ми відігнали БМП в безпечне місце, і розпакували."

They've found the BMP near the village Bilogorivka, moved it to a safer place and "unboxed" it. This is the Google translate of that Russian unit name into Polish:

8. kompania 35. gwardyjskiej brygady strzelców zmotoryzowanych

I'm not sure how to translate it into English - motorized rifle brigade?


I don't know, that's what that journalist called him in the video description - a deserter. Even if he was wrong, it's pretty clear that this "Russian hero" is a thief - besides that Dremel machine they've also found video cameras and photo cameras in that BMP.


Not really, do you have any links?

Last time I checked it's Russia occupying Ukraine, not the other way around. It's Zydensky crying uncle begging the USA and western world for more shekels, not Putin. It's Russia that's taking more and more land by the day, not Ukraine.


No, but I saw a news article about a Ukrainian LGBT unit, complete with unicorn insignia!!! ROFL!!!!

what you about this dremel machine? dremel is a multi tool,very helpful for screwing things or repair electronic.i cut stones with it(lol) ,and all optics there looks like military grade.

nothing suggest they stole anything, nothing suggest commander is a deserter, and "soldiers" turned out to be propaganda site editors.
and the whole video look so staged ,its propaganda for 8 years old kid. its funny,how they were pretending ,they accidentally found vehicle in the woods. with all cameras and chief editor in place.

its ukra here ,that is stealing stuff. pls return property to the owner. hahaha
lame

Ahhh, so you begin to understand. Not everything is at seems in Ukraine. It is a people infected with a very peculiar disease of the brain. It makes them think they are "Europeans" instead of "Mongols". "Elves" instead of "orcs". Their Polish "colleagues" quickly pick up on the terminology it seems. They want to cut everything that associates them with their past, and sell their soul to those who see in them at best a servant.

Would you be able to watch something like this without losing your patience?

Do you want to patiently perform all necessary reforms to join the EU, or you prefer a shorter route through shouting at Scholz and Macron that they are cowards? Do you want to tell your former countrymen of 500+ years that they are mongols and they should go fu*k themselves along with all other countries of CIS not named Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia - or do you want to learn to live with them? Nobody likes to be treated like sh!t for thirty years, least of all Russia. The day of reckoning was coming for a long time.

Can you imagine Canada or Mexico behaving in such a way towards the United States? Donald Trump tells Mexico it will pay for a wall that blocks their "rapist citizens" from polluting America - what happens? Does Mexico go to Brazil and say - "I'm tired of living with this arrogant bigger neighbor that, albeit has fed me for two hundred years, but as of late is irrational. Care to join me in sending him a collective middle finger?" Does Mexico even go so far as to lodge a diplomatic note of protest?

Why does Trudeau listen to everything Trump and Biden say, no matter how inane, and yet still Canada somehow doesn't launch itself into space to escape the US?

How can you people imagine that Russia will ever be fine with a Ukraine that is not deferential towards its needs? Life's not fair. Physics exist. Gravity is real. Mass matters.

anyone know what status Ukrainians have in Poland and EU? i just wonder how those people surviving? are they allowed to work and claim social?

you cant survive long depending on handouts help from public. i think Poland should grant them full residents rights. or at least right to work and zus

you suck in maths or history or both.


Sell? They are their own people, they are not Russians. What are you talking about? You are full of delusions.


Stop that nonsense. The only reason Russia wanted that war or Ukrainie was to regain status of an empire.
Quit your imperialistic BS and wake up. You don't have a penchant for it nor skills. You have been lucky so far but your luck runed out. You are not fit to be an empire. You had your five minutes and that is enough.

Something for our German friends:

youtu.be/xOAqlOxOgSg

So because it's useful according to you it's OK to steal it? :D


Sure, every Russian "special force recon unit" is driving around in their BMP with a brand new, unboxed Dremel grinder ;D


No, Butusov is a journalist, but the rest of them are soldiers. Read the rest of that post on Facebook. He's accompanying Ukrainian soldiers on the frontline. Or, at least he was, because that video was made before he got an "illegal, oral order" from Mariana Bezuhla to stop visiting the Ukrainian soldiers on the frontline positions.

whats the point stealing useless things? err i mean ukras been stealing tanks,so its even.
lol they didnt steal dremel. dremel needed to screw optics to gun,or night vision. ect. its essential in combat situation for special forces.. small multi tool

i recon,they are hobbyist. probably they were carving something in free of combat time.
and its cheap thing . like 40 dollars

@gregy741, I had a look at that box in the video and it doesn't look like that small multi tool. So what is it? The guys in the video just call it "shlifmashinka"...


No, it isn't. Taking over enemy vehicles, weapons and equipment abandoned on the battlefield isn't the same as stealing stuff for everyday use from stores and private homes of civillian population. That's a war crime. I can understand those soldiers stealing food if they didn't have any, but not the rest.


Russian soldiers have been reported stealing all kinds of stuff, even kids' toys and hair accessories for a little girl, so nothing will surprise me anymore...


;D

OK, but why unboxed? ;D From what I've noticed such tools always come in practical, solid plastic cases. There's no point in keeping it in the original cardbox packaging unless you store it at home and you're not using it. That's why I'm thinking that it must've been stolen.

if they were not using it,storing at home ,its only fair to borrow it for a while. perhaps they were safekeeping it for them.

bot on the serious side, thiss all washing machines stories is bollocks.
i to this day,cant figure out,,how on earth soldiers could take washing machine and sent it back home from a front line.?
cant take it to your military base,and even if you could ,then what? you say to some military truck driver ""pls drive this machine to my home in syberia"?

this all thing makes no sense.
tried to find images of rus soldiers with washing machine and could find any. only one truck burned wit machines on it,but truck was without markings

Check this out - "Drones. Crutches. Potatoes. Russians Crowdfund Their Army":

nytimes.com/2022/05/28/world/europe/russian-soldiers-military-supplies.html


It seemed funny as hell, but now we know why they're doing this:

techspot.com/news/94589-russian-tanks-using-chips-household-appliances-due-sanctions.html


I don't know about washing machines but Russian soldiers were caught on CCTV camera of CDEK delivery service in Belarus sending lots of loot to Russia (parcel sizes from 50-450 kilograms):

mobile.twitter.com/hannaliubakova/status/1510546301821280256/photo/1

They were able to identify the soldiers:

khpg.org/en/1608810358

date on cctv says 19/12 december.and it looked somehow strange.
and how do you know those soldiers stationing in belarus didnt take opportunity and bough those from belarus shops? it Christmas day isnt?

And here's some of the stuff Russian soldiers were sending home, their names, surnames, phone numbers:

Kovalenko Yevgeny Yevgenievich sent 450 kg. of tools, music speakers, a table, a tent, etc. to Rubtsovsk. Phone number: +79130213100

Lazarev Artyom Petrovich sent 255 kg. of spare parts and an electric scooter to Rubtsovsk. Phone number: +79132257343

Nikolayev Pavel Aleksandrovich sent 205 kg. of tools, a TV and a chair to Rubtsovsk. Phone number: +79235652819

Serdtsev Andrei Nikolayevich sent 150 kg. of tools, clothes and a TV to Rubtsovsk. Phone number: +79831816692

its december ,belarus currier office. 3 months before invasion
writing on boxes seems belarusian not ukrainian... need confirm tho

Quoting:

Russia comments on Ukrainian grain exports
Kiev has prevented ships from exporting grain by mining its own ports, Moscow says

...but PF suckers believe Z's crap how evil Russia will starve the world and waste time on bullsh*it like this:

The date is 19.12.1970 :) Here's a comment in that Twitter link explaining that:

"Most probable reason is that nobody set the date on the camera when it was set up. A lot of devices like this start with the default date of 1.1.1970 and probably this surveillance camera has been running for close to a year.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time"


The video footage is 3 hours long - Russian soldiers coming and going sending big parcels of stuff during an invasion that has been infamous for Russian soldiers stealing everything they get their hands on. It's pretty easy to guess what they're doing.


In 1970? :)) The date wasn't set so we don't know what the date is. I had a similar situation with my photo camera - I didn't set the date and all photos were being made with the date when I bought my camera lol

According to monitoring project "Belarusian Gayun" Russian soldiers sent on April 2 over 2 tons of stuff:

aroged.com/2022/04/05/belarusian-gayun-published-personal-data-of-russian-military-looters-in-just-one-day-they-sent-2-tons-of-items-looted-in-ukraine-to-russia-via-belarus-aroged/

"In just one day, on April 2, they handed over more than 2 tons of things for shipment to the Mozyr SDEK, among which a significant part was stolen. Today we publish the data of those who distinguished themselves the most - sending from 50 to 450 kg, including things stolen from Ukrainians"

i read all this story from this project. this is absolutely ton of idiocies.
some obscure project. with idiotic stories about Russians not able to exchange stolen dollars,cus locals obeying restriction..or trying to rent taxi to drive stolen goods (according to some activist from that project , who saw it)

dodgy cctv dating. i mean how on earth anyone with functional brain could treat it as a evidence?we dont even know where those items come from,when was this recorded,and where??

and even those guys from this project says that they assume,items were stolen because------- they were large and heavy!!!!!
how is that a evidence of theft?
all this is lapatina level of idiocy

ahh by the way ... recent news from lapatina available on wp.pl as well.
"Russian soldiers are forced to sign contracts for killing civilians".-according to sbu
da fuk. dont even know how to react.sad thing ppl swallowing this stuff

Are you? I know you aren't, so you don't have to answer that lol I see you don't like seeing evidence of what thieves Russian soldiers are :) Deflecting much?


"Moscow says" lol
I've read about Ukrainians mining their ports and coastline earlier during the invasion. Do you know why they did that? Because they basically have no fleet of their own and they wanted to prevent Russian ships getting their landing troops into Ukraine and to prevent Russian ships from getting to close to coastline so they could fire at targets on the land.

And no, I have all kinds of things on my mind, not only orcs looting Ukraine, "genius".


It was recorded in CDEK delivery service in Mazyr, Belarus.

Here's a video:

youtu.be/uSIVs8Ie5ZA

In 3:11:10 of the video a bag from the Ukrainian Epicentr K mall is visible. Epicentr K is a national chain of stores in Ukraine that specializes in home improvement and gardening.

A bunch of Russian soldiers during 3 hours is suddenly sending loads of stuff to Russia from Belarus, including a bag from a Ukrainian national chain store - you really don't think that's suspicious, considering all those reports of Russian soldiers looting in Ukraine?

i dont know. couuld bee true or just garbage.
there suppose to be over 2 tonnes delivered by those guys,according to your data. doesnt look like.scooter and video card. lol never seen 150kg video card

gotta understand there were 120k soldiers stationing near belarus cities. wouldn't be surprising, they did shopping to buy stuff for their families,
need someone who understand ukra,belarus writing to confirm what language is on boxes.

@gregy741, please... Soldiers from an invading army are "dropping by" to Ukraine to buy garden soil (or whatever it was in that bag) in a national Ukrainian chain store and then go back to Belarus to sent this to Russia? Are you for real?

Besides, there was also a video published of Russian soldiers stealing stuff from an Ukrainian supermarket. It was recorded on CCTV camera:

youtu.be/0tDSGT1s764

Here, if it's bad about Russia, no evidence is required.
Why do you lower yourself to her level with that petty bullsh*it? Who gives a damn how many bicycles who stole and when. Even Zhole doesn't care.


Wow! Oh, my God! That's so terrible! They should be arrested and prosecuted. That's why we have the ICC.