Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

Ask Putin, man.

Quoting:

EU accuses Russia of gas 'blackmail'
The European Commission president brands Gazprom's decision to sever deliveries to Poland and Bulgaria as 'unacceptable'

I guess EU parasites didn't bother to look up "blackmail".

Blackmail - the action, treated as a criminal offense, of demanding payment or another benefit from someone in return for not revealing compromising or damaging information about them.

Refusing to sell or give for free is not "blackmail", a-holes.

I agree it's not blackmail, it's an attempt to unilaterally change the contracted conditions of payment. In other word Russia cannot be trusted to fulfill its side of any contract.

This is well known and has always been the case. It's part of the 'big man' style of rule. The Tsar is under no obligation to keep his word. If anything to show he is the Tsar he needs to publicly break his word so the serfs know who they're dealing with.

@Novichok
Wow, you know how to search the term on Google? Impressive. Here I was thinking you could only access PF. Lets review shall we? First making the statement that your arguments suck, is a statement of fact, not a fallacy, or an argument that is distorted. Your distortion of quotes concerning Putin, or you editing of quotes and fabricating statements, shows proof that your arguments suck. Asking the question of what happened to all your stupid historical analogies, which an intelligent mind would understand that they are as useful or effective as Russian "Jack in the box tanks", does not take most people long to understand. I do take into account now that you must need a little help with cognitive thought therapy now, so maybe I should have really gone into detail on how your arguments are jack in the box arguments. Your condescending comments, and attitude show that you really think a lot more highly of yourself than anyone else does. Typical of those who wish they had achieved something yet never have.

On another note, more planes and heavy weapons on the way to Ukraine. More dead Russians is a sign of spring. Need fertilizer after all, and recycling tanks is just an added benefit. Karma would be if the steel from recycled Russian tanks were used to build a Ukraine warship in the Black Sea when this war is over and park it directly on top of the Russian embarrassment.

Traveling round some other Eastern European countries at the moment and Poland is getting a lot of respect for standing up on the gas issue. History will not look kindly on the appeasers

What is important now is to strike as many targets in Russia as possible - oil dumps, rail stations, factories. Russian missiles cost them 5 million each and don't work well. Western missiles are gifts from friendly nations so there is no limit to how many can be used

...almost?

I totally don't get the b0n34 that so many on the right have for Pootin... he's not conservative at all and "traditional values" have completely collapsed in his Russia... (one reason for the war crimes being committed in Ukraine).

It's the content of the conversation, dear simpleton, not the giggling, that is relevant. The husband's request to his wife for permission to rape Ukrainian women is evidence of intention to commit war crimes, evidence of acceptance and encouragement of war crimes in the troops, and therefore lends credence to the testimonies of women who allege they were raped.

A quick summary of a key demographic of Putler's western support.

Far righter wingnuts, far left tankies, and assorted mentally ill aynrandies and anti-vax fiends, the ones who say "do your own research" basically gobshites sat at home somewhere safe with boring unfulfilled lives. The kind of posters you get here that live in the U.S. or U.K., spend all day in a **** job with (for Americans) no proper healthcare or holidays saying yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir and have a nice day sir and spend their evenings watching boring rubbish on TV and railing about terms like 'MSM' or 'woke' without being able to define them or going on about black people or Muslims or people who have a more varied sex life than they do.

It's basically badness, though more childishly naughty than bad, analogous to toddlers flinging turds at the wall. Going on about what they ridiculously call ' MSM' allegedly manipulating people while not quite figuring out that people more intelligent than them are harder to manipulate and that the long-bearded and combat-panted youtube grifters that they slavishly follow are doing just that to them.

Hating unions and the political left while being played by a fiddle by business grifters who are laughing at them all the way to the bitcoin exchange.

Unfortunately this manifests itself in support for a vicious authoritarian government in russia while the Ukrainian people suffer terribly and the economic knock-on affect will impoverish them since they aren't making a fast buck from YouTube channels or trading the commodities which the aforementioned losers will soon find it very hard to afford.

Such people would do well to look at russian and Polish history and reflect on the origin of the term "useful idiot".


Yes. This is likely to be admitted as corroborative evidence in a court room. Worth mentioning that there are many such pieces of evidence.

youtu.be/RHHt3HxS_Ic


One of the leading American geopolitical analysts Ryan Dawson keeps in his cabinet a nice big Z along with a photo of Vladimir Putin - the world's greatest statesman.

A swivel-eyed YouTuber who looks like this.

Meanwhile, we're about to see some of the sharpest price rises in 50 years. But hey, a YouTuber is displaying symbols of genocide in order to dog-whistle to the mentally unhealthy.

Not exactly Chomsky or Rothbard.

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@Crnogorac3
You sir are a certified retard.

@jon357
You sir, just confirmed Crnogorac3 is a certified retard and we all thank you for the certification.

@mafketis
They love Putin because Putin tried to portray himself as a tough and virile man while entering old age. They lived vicariously though the imagery the Kremlin put out over the years. I wonder though if they missed this image... youtube.com/watch?v=52JsS7WQLh0

Why are U ghey for Pootin?

Hmmmm....


spiegel.de/wirtschaft/gazprombank-russland-weist-deutsche-und-oesterreichische-gaszahlung-zurueck-a-bcb57982-fa10-498d-b767-e96f0a28f34b

The dispute over gas deliveries from Russia continues to escalate: Russia does not accept a small amount of money for deliveries to Germany. It is about a subsidiary of the now nationalized Gazprom Germania....

Now it gets serious...

Russia's Gazprombank has rejected payments for natural gas deliveries to Germany and Austria . These are payments by Gazprom Marketing & Trading (GM&T) relating to gas deliveries from April and May.

The rejected payments are a further escalation in the smoldering conflict between the European Union and Russia over Russian natural gas supplies. They follow shortly after Russia's announcement that it would stop supplying gas to Poland and Bulgaria . EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen described the delivery stop on Twitter as "another attempt by Russia to blackmail us with gas". However, the EU is prepared for this scenario and is planning a "coordinated response"....

At the same time:


spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/ukraine-krieg-bundestag-stimmt-lieferung-schwerer-waffen-an-kiew-zu-a-f3c5741d-dcaa-4795-a1c6-bc9328c49499

Well then: Germany should deliver effective weapons and complex systems, including heavy ones, to Ukraine. The Bundestag supports the idea with the votes of the ampel coalition groups and the CDU/CSU.

The motion entitled "Defending Peace and Freedom in Europe - Comprehensive Support for Ukraine" has now been adopted by a large majority.

According to Parliament Wolfgang Kubicki , 586 MPs voted "yes", 100 voted against the motion, and seven abstained. The AfD and Left factions had previously announced that they would vote against the arms deliveries....

The far right and the far left are in an astounding unity in that!

@Bratwurst Boy
This is Putin trying to get the EU and USA to back off shipping the good stuff. Another miscalculation on his part IMO. Trying to respond like this is going to cause Germany to walk from Russia at significant expense to both country's. While Germany will pay a really high price to get gas elsewhere, Russia will be left sitting on hhuge reserves when the war ends, which is going to absolutely crush the price of oil and gas when the war ends. This tactic is going to end up with Russia selling oil and gas at fractions of the cost to extract it when it needs to be sold. Absolute idiocy. To do it in spring when temps are rising and heating needs are reduced, the timing is simply not going to be effective. Another WOW moment for the incompetent Putin.

*nods*

That's why I have such a hard time to believe Putin is still the cool pragmatic thinker he once was....that is NUTS!

Germany was the biggest buyer of Russian energy during the first two months of the war in Ukraine.
Russia has earned 63 billion euros ($66.5 billion) from fossil fuel exports since Feb. 24, the date Russian troops attacked Ukraine.
Germany alone paid Russia about 9.1 billion euros for fossil fuel deliveries, mostly natural gas, in the first two months of the war.
Germany needs this gas for their factories to build tanks to give to Ukraine to fight Russia.
Everyone is $prospering$ from the war except for the Ukranian people.

This war will be a long time a heavy drain on russian resources! Putin had nothing else to do as watch the money flowing in for his fossils, he needs it now more than ever. And now he does everything to cut his best customers off???

That is NUTS! What goes on in that head.....

And in fact there is a case for charging the wife with incitement to commit war crimes as she specifically says 'yes, go ahead, rape Ukrainian women'.

Congrats, Germans have finally stood. will supply 100 Marder, 88 Leopard 1 and also 100 Panzerhaubitze 2000 apparently,

Nah...that has been a more far reaching voting! From now on it should be much easier to send more and also more modern stuff....not the old remnants from the Bundeswehr. That is the permission for the future!

Even Jihadi Julian seems to have gotten up on the wrong foot today, as the grim reality finally sets in.

guys guys apparently your favorite poster on here the narcisstic polamkrakow was wrong. russian rubble is at an all time high in two yrs now:

reuters.com/business/russian-rouble-hits-more-than-2-year-high-vs-euro-before-steadying-near-77-2022-04-26/

They aren't. It's largely russist propaganda, based on suppositions about him being an actor.


I'm not sure how joint venture works in sexual offences cases however I know there is a near equivalent.


The grim reality for Putler is that russia is losing.

As you were told, the final push by the orcs was always going to be everything they could throw at it, however it is literally their last effort since they are exhausted in terms of materiel, troops and morale.

Thanks to the NLAWs and Javelins, they are expected to suffer heavy losses.

Looks like not everyone has committed to NATO as One.
Some of Russia's biggest natural gas customers in Europe's are preparing to accept the Kremlin's new payment terms rather than risk being cut off by Moscow, a fate suffered by Poland and Bulgaria this week.

Poland will find out soon who stands together with them and who the back stabbers are.

More good news. Ukraine is to receive Brimstone missiles (specifically the maritime version called Sea Spear) over the next few weeks n order to sink the russian Black Sea Fleet.

Despite russia's himiliating loss of their flagship Moskva and the Saratov, there are still about 20 significant shops their, together with escorts. The U.K. has warned that the blockade of Ukrainian commercial shipping could affect food prices even more than the war will already so are sending these weapons. Hopefully they will have a devastating affect on the orc fleet.

I see that the Russians are now stealing works of art and cultural artefacts - now who does that remind us of? Could it be the Nazis? And yet, I thought the Russians were in Ukraine to 'de-Nazify' it ....???

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/deutschland-muss-sich-laut-olaf-scholz-auf-ploetzlichen-gas-stopp-aus-russland-einstellen-a-003006d5-9251-43dd-90bc-bf4439ce587e

Kremlin boss Vladimir Putin has turned off the gas supply to Poland and Bulgaria. Olaf Scholz warned that this could soon happen in Germany too. And assured: We are prepared.

How? How are we prepared???

You have enough reserves for about three months and I suppose they're working on increasing your local supply. If anybody can do it, the Gerrys can :)) vorsprung durch technkik and all that ;)

Around 3,000 packets of the morning after pill have been sent this week to Ukraine by an international aid organisation, to women who have survived being raped by orcs. Sadly, the number of reported rapes is increasing hugely, and there are likely be many unreported cases.

Additionally, there is talk about how to help women who have sought refuge in Poland brain abortions elsewhere.

There an interesting article here which predates this week's shipment.
europarl.europa.eu/news/pt/press-room/20220425IPR27806/war-in-ukraine-protecting-women-refugees-from-violence-and-sexual-exploitation

This actually occurred to me a few weeks ago. I thought to myself, what if Poland had been invaded and the Russians were raping Polish women - how would PIS feel then about forcing those women to give birth? It will definitely bring the issue of abortion in Poland back to the forefront.

It's a massive issue. I suspect most will go to Prague or Ostrava as Poles do, however some will need help due to cost and language difficulties.

I suspect though that if it were as you say, with Poland being invaded (and that may yet happen) PiS would quietly stop trying to police doctors who do it privately.