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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



Atch
27 Apr 2022  #331

An update on the investigation into war crimes in Ukraine for anybody who missed the news, charges are being prepared against seven individuals so far. Among them are three Russian pilots who are accused of bombing civilian buildings in the Kharkiv and Sumy regions. Other individuals, according to Reuters, include two operators of a rocket launcher that allegedly opened fire on settlements in the Kharkiv region and two army men accused of killing a resident of the Kyiv region and raping his wife. It said some suspects are already in custody as POWs while other charges were framed in absentia.

And in a separate investigation, the Russian soldier and his wife who were heard giggling while discussing raping Ukrainian women, during an intercepted phone call, have been identified. They are Roman Bykovsky, 27, and his wife, Olga whose maiden name is Pinyasovaya.

Tacitus
27 Apr 2022  #332

reveals the value of assets frozen under Russian sanctions

Just goes to show which countries have in the past laundered Russian money. There is not much to freeze otherwise.

Atch
27 Apr 2022  #333

And the Russian money that has been frozen is only the tip of the iceberg if you'll excuse the pun.

johnny reb
27 Apr 2022  #334

Latest threat by Putin.
Putin threatens "lightning-fast strikes" on those who want to intervene in the war
Sounds like he is getting desperate from his so far ass kicking's.

yahoo.com/news/putin-threatens-lightning-fast-strikes-135038698.html

Novichok
27 Apr 2022  #335

And in a separate investigation, the Russian soldier and his wife who were heard giggling...

I am so proud of the investigators who decided to investigate giggling. I thought that Russia's constitution permits giggling. Gulag for them.

An update on the investigation into war crimes in Ukraine for anybody who missed the news,

Are the investigators planning to visit Iraq?

jon357
27 Apr 2022  #336

And the Russian money that has been frozen is only the tip of the iceberg

Hopefully every penny will go to Ukraine, as will profits made by countries shamefully paying for their gas in roubles and being deliberately sluggish over military aid.

Crow
27 Apr 2022  #337

Hopefully every penny will go to Ukraine, as will profits made by countries

Russia hopes exactly that. Imagine all those tanks and metal armament sent to Ukraine. Only reason Russia tolerate that is because its a pure steel that coming to Russian hands. Practically, western Europe and States sending back to Russia and Ukraine all cheap steel that they bought in earlier ages. Its kind of Godly justice.

And then will Russia recycle the steel and sell it again for rubles.

Russian genius.

jon357
27 Apr 2022  #338

pure steel that coming to Russian hands

Given the hundreds of tanks that russia lost and which were towed away by Ukrainian farmers who fed the bits of meat inside to their dogs, I think we can say that the opposite is true.

Crow
27 Apr 2022  #339

You know nothing because of your probable limitations. Ukraine is now beautiful spot to get rid of old tanks and armaments. I think all the world arms dealers agree. In true, it started with NATO, USA, EU and Russia disagreements but now arms dealers and army depos of old arms got their five minutes.

jon357
27 Apr 2022  #340

Ukraine is now beautiful spot to get rid of old tanks

The Russians have certainly lost a lot of tanks and APCs there.

Quite a lot of bones too.

Novichok
27 Apr 2022  #341

Ukraine is now a beautiful spot to get rid of old tanks and armaments.

Crow, I always knew I can count on you. My thought exactly. Brilliant. Not only that...It's a great spot where to test how much one can get away with. Like a covid test site with the dead and econ ruin - except that the results are in sooner and are more compelling.

Hey, Russia haters, I am still waiting for you to tell me why this war is so bad if, as you said so eloquently, Russia is getting weaker and Ukraine is getting stronger as a result. What's up with that silence?

mafketis
27 Apr 2022  #342

Hey, Russia haters, I am still waiting for you to tell me why this war is so bad

It's bad because the Russian military, despite its bumbling and outdated junk and poorly trained and criminal soldiers is able to do a lot of physical damage and kill lots of people (as well as getting themselves killed which is not going to help Russia either).

Russia getting weaker doesn't make me happy. As I've said many times, it could be a prosperous and happy country but Russians prefer theft and poverty and violence. I don't begrudge them that choice as long as they keep it within their borders.

It's a stupid blunder by a stupid man who's clearly physically and mentally ill. It will end up doing far too much damage to both countries.

Tacitus
27 Apr 2022  #343

Why should it be any consolidation to the Ukainians who are getting killed, maimed, raped and displaced that Russia is getting weaker?

Let alone for us in the West. All we wanted was to live in peace and prosperity and trade with Russia to our both benefit. Thanks to the war all of that is in jeopardy.

jon357
27 Apr 2022  #344

Russians prefer theft and poverty and violence

This is clear, and nothing in their historical, recent or current behaviour suggests they are a fit or safe country to have dealings with. Anything else is hopelessly optimistic.

Strzelec35
27 Apr 2022  #345

Is this truly what a zelensky party looks like these days? hey man I dont judge the man id be doing much worse in his shoes. wat u guys fink?

youtube.com/watch?v=o_5i6kOUlRk

Novichok
27 Apr 2022  #346

If Russia ever goes for its nukes, Poland will be the first one to get them - even before Ukraine. So Poland's desire to pi$$ off Russia is a mystery. How about laying low and doing just enough to keep the Western pimps happy to get an occasional pat on the head and to keep those dollar$ flowing.

johnny reb
27 Apr 2022  #347

Why on earth would Putin nuke Poland at all ?
Poland is no threat to Russia.

Novichok
27 Apr 2022  #348

Because of Article 5, if NATO attacks Russia, Poland will attack Russia just as it did Iraq. If NATO does not attack Russia, no nukes.

johnny reb
27 Apr 2022  #349

Still doesn't make Poland a threat to Russia.
Seems the NATO countries with nukes would be Russia's first targets to nuke their nuke's.
Poland wouldn't be first just because of Article 5, would it ?

Novichok
28 Apr 2022  #350

Still doesn't make Poland a threat to Russia.

That would depend on what weapons and troops NATO would bring into Poland.

johnny reb
28 Apr 2022  #351

You said that Poland would be Russia's first target if they were to use their nukes.
So now you're saying that NATO would have to bring in weapons and troops into Poland for Poland to be Russia's first nuke target ?

Joker
28 Apr 2022  #352

That would depend on what weapons and troops

If Vlad launched a Nuke do you really think Biden would actually do anything? I dont. Remember he was the one that tried talking Obama out of killing Bin Laden. Dont forget his massive failures with Afghanistan, our open Border and economic disaster he created, just to name a few.

The Eurpos/ NATO should realize its all going to be upon UK and France. Dont wait for slow Joe.

He needs to be impeached asap! Before hes gets us into WWIII

Why are we giving Ukraine so much money when our economy is in shambles and our border is wide open?

Novichok
28 Apr 2022  #353

Here is why...Quoting:

POKROVSK, Ukraine (AP) - Russia cut off natural gas to NATO members Poland and Bulgaria on Wednesday and threatened to do the same to other countries, using its most essential export in what was seen as a bid to punish and divide the West over its support for Ukraine.

Poland has been a major gateway for the delivery of weapons to Ukraine and confirmed this week that it is sending the country tanks.


Russia noticed it and showed its displeasure. Today, it's gas. Tomorrow, and depending on what crap Poland will try, it will be nukes. Not necessarily the big ones. A 1k ton device over Warsaw would make Poland a lot less friendly with NATO, I think, but not enough to get the US ICBMs flying towards Russia.

PolAmKrakow
28 Apr 2022  #354

@johnny reb
Remember you are talking to a retard. He can not keep his arguments straight and is grasping at straws to give his little dictator some credibility as well as trying to give his own arguments some credibility. NATO this NATO that, then its Nazi's or Jews, or historical references. Its like herding cats with a feather.

Novichok
28 Apr 2022  #355

Quoting from RT.com:

Ukraine war could last as long as TEN years, Foreign Secretary Liz Truss fears as she tells Western allies that Russia under 'desperate rogue operator' Putin is even less trustworthy than the Soviet Union.

I still didn't hear from the Western "democracies" what Putin wants in order to stop shooting. My best guess is that they don't way us to know, not because he didn't tell them.

PolAmKrakow
28 Apr 2022  #356

@Novichok
Your arguments suck. What happened to all the historical analogies for arguments? Allot like Russian tanks "Jack in the box defect".

edition.cnn.com/2022/04/27/europe/russia-tanks-blown-turrets-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

Yes. More of the all mighty Russian technical and military superiority on display. More recycled steel for Ukraine.

Strzelec35
28 Apr 2022  #357

youre using cnn now as ur source *****?

PolAmKrakow
28 Apr 2022  #358

@Strzelec35
It is a technical report. Technical reports are pretty difficult to turn into fake news. FOX unfortunately does not dig for this information and cares more about the politics involved.

johnny reb
28 Apr 2022  #359

youre using cnn now as ur source *****?

Google "Jack in the box tanks", Lover Boy, and you will find twenty sources about them.
The West has been aware of this flaw in the Russian tanks for decades.
They are death traps.

Meathead
28 Apr 2022  #360

Using the more-likely-than-not approach, it's reasonable to conclude that the P side is telling the truth because the current situation is not to their benefit.

Was invading Ukraine to Russia's benefit? Think man, think.


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