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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



gregy741
2 Jun 2022  #3931

ukras refuse to hand over EU donated humanitarian aid to russian speaking people.
twitter.com/NOTDrunkleZ/status/1532429523890884629
this is why territories with Russian speaking population need to carved out of ukra. till they learn how to respect other people.

Novichok
2 Jun 2022  #3932

Noone will take Russia's resources by force for this reason. Get it into your paranoid, histeria-filled mind finally.

Get it into your head that having nukes and losing through exhaustion are not mutually exclusive. The US with its nukes lost in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Not because it was militarily weaker but because it was exhausted - the slow way by a million cuts.

The simplest way to remove nukes from the table is by inviting a new crew to the table. First step: Send Soros, demoralize them, and watch them crumble.

Paulina
2 Jun 2022  #3933

ukras refuse to hand over EU donated humanitarian aid to russian speaking people

Well, those are some stupid a$$holes. Pity it doesn't say where it was filmed. Such people shouldn't be giving out humanitarian aid.

The US with its nukes lost in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

And yet, noone invaded the US. Gee, I wonder why? lol

The simplest way to remove nukes from the table is by inviting a new crew to the table.

So not by getting encircled by NATO? lol 🙄

pawian
2 Jun 2022  #3934

Hopefully they gather enough people

It is good you corroborate our claims they are savages... :):)

They've committed less than 10% of their total armed forces,

Funny you provide such false numbers. It is nearly 25%. Check the sources. 845.000 army altogether, up to 200.000 engaged in Ukraine. And they still can`t conquer it. And they never will. And sanctions will finish them off unless they give up all their gains and pay compensation. You know the US won`t let RuSSia off this time. RuSSists have two options - stick to their imperial dreams and sink in result, or reform and develop.

Bobko
2 Jun 2022  #3935

*off to lament his failed attempt at diplomacy*

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the Children of God. Your efforts do not go wasted Kania, pay no mind to the cynics.

pawian
2 Jun 2022  #3936

peacemakers

They are sometimes useful but also can be harmful when duped into naive thinking that RuSSists are civilised. :):)

sanctions will finish them off

Hey, RuSSists, your next three banks are going to be cut off from SWIFT. Including the biggest Sbierbank. What say you??? :):):)
And Taiwan has officially announced the ban on the sale of advanced chips to RuSSland. What say you? :):)

Crnogorac3
2 Jun 2022  #3937

twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1532316051349856258

twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1532280523355201538

What say you?

Of every guest, three days is enough it seems.

Svakog gosta,
tri dana dosta.


:)

Bobko
2 Jun 2022  #3938

Including the biggest Sbierbank. What say you???

Not pleasant, but not fatal. Russia's replacement for SWIFT, called SPFS, now has a few hundred participating banks in about a dozen countries. The Mir card payment system, is also working normally inside Russia and in countries that recognize it alongside Visa, Mastercard, and UnionPay.

Not gonna pretend this doesn't suck. Sberbank is among the most valuable Russian companies, and this will weaken it severely relative to the competition. People won't wait for sanctions to be lifted on Sberbank, and will leave with their money to non-sanctioned banks if they need to perform transfers abroad.

Taiwan has officially announced the ban on the sale of advanced chips to RuSSland. What say you? :):)

This is also a painful sanction, but not fatal. We now have many masters of sanction avoidance that will bring you everything you need from Georgia and Kazakhstan - at a price. There is no customs border between KZ and RU, so this will be difficult for the West to control unless it is willing to punish Kazakhstan. I don't think you will do that, because you need Kazakh oil more than ever now that you want to stop working with us.

Crow
2 Jun 2022  #3939

I tried my very best to save it with my Einstein-class Z-P=0.

You don`t need to be Einstein to see truth here. Every old woman can grasp what`s going on and point with its curved finger at NATO. And EU. Let us be frank, EU, too. Very evil EU. Selfish EU that didn`t like to see UKRPOLBAT and initiated Maiden.

Well, I am both Slavic and an engineer (MSc electronics)

o?! Pane dobri brate, what are you predicaments then? Poland escape destine of EU and NATO or won`t?

pawian
2 Jun 2022  #3940

This is also a painful sanction, but not fatal

Of course they are not fatal when viewed seperately and within a week or two. Or even months. But all the sanctions combined will be fatal within years coz they will slowly, gradually, step by step turn Russland into a fallen state. And RuSSists know about it. That is why Putin has already suggested a deal with the Ukrainian wheat export which implies lifting sanctions on RuSSland. No way! :):) Withdraw your troops and pay compensation and then the West might think of relieving you. If you don`t, you will be another Cuba or Venezuela. :):):)

this will be difficult for the West

That is wishful thinking. The import of Taiwanese chips through Kazahstan can be easily tracked, and if necessary, banned. Simple.

mafketis
2 Jun 2022  #3941

Ant-Putinite Andrei Sorochkin in Russia faces up to 15 years in prison for publicly protesting against the war.

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1532395283467972609

Two points:

First, This is real primitive Soviet style tyranny. Those who wanted the USSR and gonna get a belly full.

Second, it's obvious that what the Russian citizens here write cannot be assumed to be their true opinions since they could face prison for voicing any kind of criticism of Putin's insane war.

I actually feel sorry for them for the positions they're forced to take in public....

pawian
2 Jun 2022  #3942

This is real primitive Soviet style tyranny

Eternal RuSSist barbarism. It feels so sick to have such an atrocious neighbour. Yuk.

mafketis
2 Jun 2022  #3943

Eternal RuSSist barbarism

and they can't even complain..... they have to pretend to support putting people who publicly disagree with the government in jail.... very sad

gregy741
2 Jun 2022  #3944

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1532395283467972609

15 years? lie
"Criminal Code will have Article 280.3 "Public actions aimed at discrediting operations of the Russian Armed Forces that protect the interests of Russia and its citizens and maintain world peace and security." The penalty will range from a fine of 100,000 to 300,000 rubles to five years of imprisonment""

could not find this guy in google ,,and what he did. millions criticize Putin in russia ,i wonder what he did and why your twitt doessnt explain what happened. but resorted to lies

in the other hand it is some western countries that imprison people for support russia or even for using "z"
or even for handing food to truckers

pawian
2 Jun 2022  #3945

that imprison people for support russia

Stop lying. Nothing like that is happening. Have you or other RuSSists here been imprisoned in those Western countries you are living in??? hahaha

lies

Who is lying, then?
MOSCOW, March 4 (Reuters) - Russia's parliament on Friday passed a law imposing a jail term of up to 15 years for spreading intentionally "fake" news about the military, stepping up the information war over the conflict in Ukraine.

I see. First RuSSist Parliament suggested 15 years in the new law but then they changed to 5.

gregy741
2 Jun 2022  #3946

Stop lying. Nothing like that is happening.

i believe Slovakia and czech criminalize supporting russia operation in ukra
multipolarista.com/2022/03/03/crime-support-russia-ukraine-eu-slovakia-czech/

mafketis
2 Jun 2022  #3947

15 years? lie

take it up with sushko...

imprison people for support russia or even for using "

Z is the new swastika.... do you like swastikas?

gregy741
2 Jun 2022  #3948

You are lying again, it seems

noo you are as usual
i give you link to source legislation and your info comes from jurnalist
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_fake_news_laws#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20article%20280.3,a%20term%20of%205%20years.

The Chapter 29 of the Criminal Code of Russia was also supplemented by the articles 280.3 and 284.2. According to the article 280.3, the "discrediting" of Russian Armed Forces and its operations, including the calls for prevention of the use of Russian Armed Forces for the interests of the Russian Federation is punishable by imprisonment for a term of 5 years. The article 284.2 established responsibility for calls by a Russian citizen to impose sanctions against Russia, Russian citizens or Russian legal entities; such calls are punishable by imprisonment for a term of 3 years.

pawian
2 Jun 2022  #3949

criminalize

Darling, you wrote: western countries that imprison people for support russia.
Do you know English? The Present Simple tense that you used meant such situations take place regularly.
So, you were lying consciously or it was just a grammar mistake?

your info comes from jurnalist

Yes, that is why I wrote 7 minutes ago: First RuSSist Parliament suggested 15 years in the new law but then they changed to 5.

mafketis
2 Jun 2022  #3950

Another day another strategic Russian military asset goes up in flames.... (actually a month ago but reported only now)

unconfirmed.... but cool!

twitter.com/PutinHasNoPenis/status/1532463878516445184

gregy741
2 Jun 2022  #3951

Darling, you wrote:

So, you were lying consciously or it was just a grammar mistake?

cheap punch at me do divert attention from and to hide that you are lair

Ant-Putinite Andrei Sorochkin in Russia faces up to 15 years in prison

Yes, that is why I wrote 7 minutes ago: First RuSSist Parliament suggested 15 years

oooo now once you cought being a liar,you say you merely "suggested"? hahahaha
you didnt suggests ,you lied and that biatch on twitter

Bobko
2 Jun 2022  #3952

twitter.com/PutinHasNoPenis/status/1532463878516445184

Fake news. One person died, two were injured in a fire caused by accident. Plant went back to normal work the very next day. Building on twitter doesn't even match the Perm Powder Plant building.

gregy741
2 Jun 2022  #3953

Yes, that is why I wrote 7 minutes ago: First RuSSist Parliament suggested 15 years in the new law but then they changed to 5.

sorry pawian,didnt see that post.
dodgy case. could find nothing about this guy and what he did. hard to asses this case. many criticize putin and not being in prison. there have to be some reason. maybe he did something off criminal nature.or maybe doesnt even exist

and youu say rus is totlitarian
how would you asses case of mateusz piskorski?

GefreiterKania
2 Jun 2022  #3954

The prices of gas in Europe are the lowest since 22nd February...

businessinsider.com.pl/gospodarka/ceny-gazu-w-europie-przebily-kolejny-prog-chiny-wracaja-do-wegla/zhc9r2h

... thanks to increased imports. Looks like Russia may not be able to regain her clients, even after the war.

gregy741
2 Jun 2022  #3955

This is real primitive Soviet style tyranny

you mean mateusz piskorski imprisonment ?

i like those people and their views ,he and that woman sitting next to him. i remember her.
twitter.com/wallacemick/status/1530089811893166080
they have views like me

Dirk diggler
2 Jun 2022  #3956

And they still can`t conquer it. And they never will.

LOL except even Zydensky said that now Russia controls 1/5 of the country. Zydensky is begging Putin in negotiations for Russia to pull out and go back to pre-Feb 2022 territory, meaning that he's already given up on taking back Crimea.

Zydensky's army is nearly wiped out. They're experiencing far greater losses percentage wise than Russia. Even though more Russian soldiers were killed than Ukranians, the Russians can sustain the losses since they have at least 1-1.3 mln troops plus 2 mln reserves

In fact, Zydensky even said himself that Ukraine is losing some 700 troops daily. They can't sustain that for very long. They mounted a fierce resistance in the beginning but all it did was delay the inevitable. Now Russia is taking more and more land each day.

And sanctions will finish them off unless they give up all their gains

So on one hand you say Russia is losing, Russia can't conquer it, then in another you write about "giving up all their gains"

Fact is, the ruble is the world's best performing currency right now. It's higher than it was even before the war. Another fact is that Russia is making MORE money on gas and oil sales than before the war.

You know the US won`t let RuSSia off this time.

Well the USA and EU have a history of shooting themselves in the foot. Maybe more sanctions is the answer because clearly the earlier ones aren't working. In fact, Russia is making more money than even before the war while selling less gas due to the skyrocketing prices.

"The sanctions aren't working. Russia isn't feeling them, the ruble did not collapse. EU citizens get to pay the price, [Russian President Vladimir] Putin gets to smile in contentment, and the oil and gas will go elsewhere because the demand is great," - Zoran Milanovic, President of Croatia

"The sanctions aren't working. Russia isn't feeling them, the ruble did not collapse. EU citizens get to pay the price, [Russian President Vladimir] Putin gets to smile in contentment, and the oil and gas will go elsewhere because the demand is great," - Zoran Milanovic, President of Croatia

But surely you know more than the president of an EU country who's part of the bloc that's sanctioning Russia. At least unlike all these people who can't face reality because of cognitive dissonance or whatever, the fact remains the sanctions aren't doing jack **** to Russia. The only people they're hurting is EU and USA consumers and businesses who have to pay far more for fuel and thus every single good. Meanwhile, Russia enjoys even higher revenues than expected from gas and oil sales. They're making more money than even before the war while selling less gas thanks to the shoot yourself in the foot sanctions

Miloslaw
2 Jun 2022  #3957

and youu say rus is totlitarian

You claim to be Polish, but I very much doubt that you are.
You are Russian to the bone....or a despicable political extremist that adores Putin.

johnny reb
3 Jun 2022  #3958

Poland must have puckered when biden told the world that Poland was training Ukranian troops in Poland.
I am ashamed.
Damn America needs a president and quick !
Here some of what we are reading in the U.S. about the war.
Some of you might find it very interesting, especially the one about the TOS-1A Thermobaric Artillery Strike Recorded In Ukraine

thedrive.com/the-war-zone

mafketis
3 Jun 2022  #3959

Russia is making more money than even before the war

Russia is engaged in wealth transfers of the public to the oligarchs... you haven't seen the videos of the empty shopping centers?

Zydensky

Why aren't the Russians denazifying you?

Building on twitter doesn't even match the Perm Powder Plant building.

Poster used a picture from TASS (notorious liars it appears)

Anyhoo... you believe the Russian government, that's almost cute in its fresh faced naivete.... or are you just pretending to stay out of jail?

So sad to be Russian and always waiting for the boot to come down on your neck...

PolAmKrakow
3 Jun 2022  #3960

I love catching up every morning. Such BS from trolls who just follow the party line without actually doing a little research. So while Russia has made some small advances in the west of Ukraine after moving troops around, they are now being beaten back in the Kherson region. A full mobilization of the men caught in these Russian occupied lands is getting pushback from insurgents now with about 100 Russian Nazi's taken out.

Meanwhile, one of the business's I bought a few months ago requires that I drive by the Russian embassy when I go to check on things. It is taped off like a crime scene, and this morning they have more than doubled the police presence. Maybe they expect something or maybe they are preparing the building for Ukraine refugee's?

Not a single Russian Nazi in the area since the war began.

@gregy741
You are not Polish, but you probably are from the 741 area in Kentucky. Lots of inbred stupidity there.


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