Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

A bridge between civilisation. But Mongols aren`t civilised so forget the bridge. First you need to acquire some culture which most Europeans possess, then you can enter the bridge towards Europe. Simple.


Only on paper, fortunately. :):) Russ soldiers are leaving the army en masse to avoid senseless death. RuSSists are drafting prisoners and disabled men to resupply massacred units.


You are daydreaming together with RuSSist propaganda. They are working nicely but nobody said the expected outcome would appear after a few weeks. Let`s wait till the end of the year and further. I will remind you this post of yours then. :):):) RuSSists are unable to buiold any armament without Western technology.

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2022.06.02 There Is No Army In The West That Will Save The Day

Another day another industrial fire in Russia... this time in Naberezhnye Chelny....

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1532601339360034819

More on the Perm fire with some interesting background... shady stufff..... GRU vs FSB stuff... and not part of the other fires (related to Surkov loyalists?)

twitter.com/EPICGOPFAIL/status/1532513065182298112

The sanctions are working well - seems to be a.n increasing narrative in the western press that they are not, based on the oil price increasing

But t he full story is the Russians are short of everything useful and a 9 oercent GDP fall means they are stilo at covid levels od economy while the rest of the world recovers. The ruble is not strong because its not interchangeble.

What is weird however is the genuine support for Russia in the 3rd world - can't fathom it out at all. I don't understand the ant imperialist argument - Russia started an imperial war and was clear about that.

Psychology: poor neighbour, rich neighbour. There's a lot of resentment towards America; the US, as the world's only global superpower, is very often blamed by the poor countries for all their misfortunes, so they see Russia as a country opposing their "oppressor". Of course it's nonsense, but here we are. It's easier to blame the bad "globalists, capitalists and bankers" etc. etc. than look for the source of problems closer to home. As long as America is rich and they are poor this irrational hatred will continue.

That is often overstated however it should be seen in the context of three generations' worth of PR by russia and the soviet Union and now China and Iran in the mix, all of it anti-Western. That and a genuine envy for life in the west and an element of schadenfreude that comes with being an ex colony.

Given a genuine choice (which they don't have) they'd prefer the west to the global east, and slowly the battle is being won as they see that russian promises are empty and Chinese ones come with a high price.

there is that anti-USA sentiment or even anti-western sentiment. Are you suprised?

....if they were smarter they wouldn't be so pro-russian/pro-chinese, but then they would be alot better off and not called "3rd world"....so.....

(The gazillions of hard money the West poured into these regions would have otherwise be enough to build whole new countries!)

You know what they say, BB - no good deed will go unpunished. :-/

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The budget fell after the economy: the Ministry of Finance reported a drop in VAT collections by 54%

The Ministry of Finance managed to raise 191.9 billion rubles against 414.7 billion in April 2021.

At the same time, import revenues (excises, duties, import VAT) sank sharply - by 38%, to 264.1 billion rubles.

As a result, non-oil and gas revenues in total fell by 18%, to 1.058 trillion rubles.

According to the results of April, the budget for the first time this year was in deficit: government spending exceeded revenue by 262 billion rubles. And this trend will continue: by the end of the year, according to the official forecast of the Ministry of Finance, the "hole" in the treasury will grow to 1.6 trillion rubles.

Should travel to Russia and look for work there, that would cure they notion if they have any that Russia is not racist and has no double standrs on the top of being **** poor and full of aggresive drunks if you are a black immigrant. lol!


I don't know IF they support Russia, seems to me that try to gain something playing on anti-USA sentyments. In case of China all that is on a different level.

I would say that China doesn't want Russia to win in Ukrainie.


Is a joke but that USA fault.

...and yet, everyone seems to want to live in this horrible, duplicitous, annoying and hypocritical West and not in Russia or China, completely unhypocritical and never annoying beacons of all virtue. :)

The West has its problems but lets compare:

The most soviet like of ex soviet republics is Belarus
The most western like of the ex soviet republics is Estonia.

Both was very poor in early 90s. But one generation later, Estonia is a extremely rich country and Belarus continue being poor. The average Estonian worker now makes 30x more than in 90s.

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No way! Under this hypocritical, duplicitous and annoying western system? Why couldn't the said worker make the same amount of money in the Soviet Union - was he a different person, less hard-working, less resourceful?

Spheres of influence work when you're beneficial to those within it - be that protecting them militarily, providing stability, helping them economically, etc. If all those in your sphere flee your 'friendship' the moment your military occupation ends and the system of puppet governments fall the gig is up and you've lost the influence.

Also major LOL at Russia whinging about spheres when they tried to export revolutions to literally every country on earth during the Soviet period. If we're playing this game then Russia started that long before the US did.

Not most soviet-like most similar to Russia. In Europe the more like Russia a former soviet republic the worse its economy and social structure the less like Russia the better.

As in Poland, where the regions most influenced by Russia have the worst educational and economic outcomes... how many generations later?

ruskość is a malignant condition....

....yeah....the GDR is still years behind ex-West-Germany....

It's really not so smart to support russian style economy and/or chinese style government....where people just vanish into camps for no real reasons at all!

I guess most 3rd wordlers know that too, no matter how some might disapprove with some western flaws.....

@Bobko

People still make their choices mostly with their feet....

What their argument? You a place where there is the racism and double standard. While we are an evil empire and we stand by it. We only have an issue if you question that empire part./

What is interesting is that the Africans resent having aid tied to democracy and and corruption when it is obvious that the fundamental route to a more advanced society is through having democratic institutions, the only other way is by having oil but in 30 years that will no longer work

I am not convinced by the arguments about thanking the USSR for liberation - even if it were true it was 3 even 4 generations ago and in any cases when communism was applied in the third world it didn't lead to wealth or happiness

Remember that there are different models of democracy and what suits continental Europe is not an ideal to be replicated everywhere, especially in tribal societies.

We see how badly the structures of continental democracy are abused in russia. They can see that too.

It doesn't look good when countries like russia (and Austria, France etc) are seen to abuse those systems too.

russia has all the structures of continental democracy yet is viciously imperialistic as we see in Ukraine and is rotten to the core with corruption

Their trolls and shills accuse Ukraine of corruption. It is however small beer compared to russia.


A liberation they couldn't get rid of. Names mean little. In russia they call it democracy however it isn't. They also call their war a special operation.

Because Russians can't do what as opposed to Poles?


Or US-style "police action".


I didn't know that there is a Nazi party in Russia. Hey, Bobko, is it true?

Yet another fire in Russia? This time a 'business center' in Moscow....

and... "the head of the Moscow Central Directorate of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, Sergey Zheltov, suffered a heart attack at the scene"

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1532620486470946816

I read somewhere that one reason these fires get so bad is that about 30% of firemen are in Ukraine and they can't recruit/train any replacements because it's a dangerous crap job in Russia and not a career (as in the US).

But I guess committing war crimes and cultural genocide in Ukraine is more important for the Russian government... and what can the public do about that? Nothing!

@Bobko
There are 25 different artcles on the main page with another 222 page with 25 articles on each of them.
I find them up to date information, especially the ones linked to the Ukraine war.
Here, try again.

thedrive.com/the-war-zone

More than one....

latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis4

@mafketis
And Krakow had a very large Russian population until a few days after the war started, then they all just disappeared. Amazing and thankfully.

Since joun is too shy, can somebody explain what is it that Russians can't do in Russia that Poles can in Poland - democracy-wise?

Failure to respond will mean that you, Russia haters, are full of crap.

There's someone who monitors fires at strategic facilities in russia. Tons since the war started. Either they're very unlucky, or their own people are doing it or Ukrainians are.

This could turn into a long guerilla war.

Compain about their country's military policy without fear of being criminally charged?

Have some confidence that the result of the election is not determined beforehand? (to be fair, this dates back to the misguided fools, including some westerners, who wanted to rig an election 'just once' to prevent the communist Zjuganov from winning in 1996 - and there hasn't been a real election since....)

Say two words....

twitter.com/Nara_Hodge/status/1503140911777292297

That's seriously a culture you respect?

What is obvious to you, is not necessarily obvious to all. People see that three of the richest economies in the modern world (Japan, Korea, Taiwan) catapulted themselves from poverty to prosperity through a series of dictators, and parliaments where one party would hold a majority for 50+ years. Singapore is probably actually the poster child for this. These countries only started to really go through the motions with democracy once they had started to overtake Europe in per capita wealth.

Russia, meanwhile, due to having the same "poet" gene as their Polish brothers, went "full retard" with democracy in the 1990s and there is still left a bad taste in the mouth. The state was pillaged, and the people were left forlorn. The West that cheered us on enthusiastically, suddenly lost interest and began to focus on looting our family treasures. China observed what was happening to us, took careful notes, and is doing its utmost to avoid repeating them.

People see that democracies often produce things like Boris Johnson or some other person whose name doesn't seem to come to mind.

No, my friends. What makes democracies truly work is when people have money and thus have something to lose. This is why the task of development has priority over human rights, and the existence of prudent checks and barriers within government. When people have a house, a mortgage, a pension account - that's when they start to be shareholders of society.

China and Russia saw on their own skin what it means to wait for help from the West. They'll give you just enough aid so you don't go belly up and a nice pat on the head for being a good boy.

Rubbish - those are the 3 most democratic societies in East Asia - like all democracies they are imperfect, but still far better than China, N Korea or Vietnam.

In post communist societies then wealth is correlated with the rapidity of proper reforms - Poland, Czech and Slovenia versus Russia and its fellow victims of dictatorship. Ukraine has realized this and that is something that really grinds Putin's gears. The only way his citizens will get fridges and telephones is by stealing them from the neighbors.