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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



GefreiterKania
9 Jun 2022  #4471

polish warmonger

Warmonger?

Poland is preparing for a defensive war, not for an invasion of Russia. Ukraine is fighting a defensive war on their own soil. Who's a "warmonger"?

gregy741
9 Jun 2022  #4472

Poland is preparing for a defensive war

was singing bandera songs alongside sloboda and right sector thugs on maydan scene ,part of those preparations?

Korvinus
9 Jun 2022  #4473

he must be paid by putin to hate pierogi

How rude, gregy!
Forgot to say, Orban can afford to do that because he does not share border with Russia, and neither of their proxies.

GefreiterKania
9 Jun 2022  #4474

Who was singing bandera songs? You mean Kaczynski shouting "slava ukraini, geroyom slava"? He was never especially smart and got a lot of flak for this at home.

Anyways, Grisha, it's your beloved Russia invading neigbouring countries and threatening others, not Poland. We are, however, grateful to Ukrainians - they bought us a lot of time to prepare our defences. We know exactly who's next, but we'll be ready. :)

Bobko
9 Jun 2022  #4475

@Korvinus

All you Orban haters - remember that Hungary is #2 after Poland in receiving refugees. But... Poland has a population of almost 40M, while Hungary has only 10M. If they took 2.5M like you, they would get diluted by 25%.

What has been Hungary's reward for this kindness? Well - Ukraine threatened to cut off oil supplies, and called Orban a Kremlin stooge. They also insulted them by pointing out their history of collaborating with Hitler, and accused them of trying to annex Transcarpathia.

With such "friends", who needs enemies.

Paulina
9 Jun 2022  #4476

Poland is preparing for a defensive war, not for an invasion of Russia.Ukraine is fighting a defensive war on their own soil. Who's a "warmonger"?

You're wasting your time - gregy's brain has been eaten by Russian propaganda. He also isn't the most honest person.

and called Orban a Kremlin stooge

Because that's what he is. He isn't just taking care of his country's interests - he goes beyond that. For example, Hungarian media controlled by Orban is repeating Kremlin propaganda. As far as I remember they aren't even calling this war "a war", but a "special operation".

GraniTweet/status/1534880697500024833

;D

gregy741
9 Jun 2022  #4477

We know exactly who's next, but we'll be ready. :)

try to fight for more than 3 weeks this time. US arm industry cant make much profit in just 3 weeks.

GefreiterKania
9 Jun 2022  #4478

try to fight for more than 3 weeks this time

At least you're not even pretending to be Polish anymore. Good :)

US arm industry

Our arms industry isn't too bad either - yesterday ZMT Tarnów showed their new drone-killer...

youtu.be/EF36Wo6-7R4

... nice :) Ukrainians are buying us tons of time. When Russia regains enough strength to invade us, we'll be ready.

Velund
9 Jun 2022  #4479

Not true... you just fall for anything State TV tells you

My ex-gf fought there (she was born in suburbs of Donetsk and left their career in Moscow to fight banderists once serious clashes started), so, I do not need to watch TV to get real information about history of this conflict. And I seen photos that will be not published even in Telegram. So, STFU and don't try to convince me to believe that you know anything better.

Even now, ukronazis shelling Donetsk and towns in suburbs from heavily fortified "nodes" like Avdyevka and Peski, using local civilians as "live shield" to avoid use of heavy weapons against their artillery positions. I doubt that DNR militia and russian troops will take any POW from there. And even if any will taken - DNR officials declared that grave military crimes will be punished by death penalty, and public hanging will be used for such kind... All names is known, both who issued orders to shell civilian residental areas, and who actually do it.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Jun 2022  #4480

....if it goes as in earlier times the Russians will have to leave Ukraine with the russian army when they lose this war...

A further living-together won't be possible anymore...

Paulina
9 Jun 2022  #4481

With such "friends", who needs enemies.

True, with such "allies" like Hungary, we don't need enemies.

local civilians as "live shield"

Lies, lies, lies...

All names is known, both who issued orders to shell civilian residental areas, and who actually do it.

Hopefully Ukrainians will get those Russian bastards.

Velund
9 Jun 2022  #4482

living-together won't be possible anymore

No one will force the banderists to live against their will. If they don't want to, let them not live. That's what freedom is all about, isn't it?

Paulina
9 Jun 2022  #4483

@Velund, for someone who wishes death upon so many people, you don't seem too eager to do some actual fighting.

My ex-gf fought there (she was born in suburbs of Donetsk and left their career in Moscow to fight banderists once serious clashes started)

Now look at that. So she went there to fight and you didn't? But you know what, that's a good thing. It's better that you prefer to hate those "banderists" from the comfort of your armchair. The less potential war criminals end up in Ukraine the better.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Jun 2022  #4484

@Velund

....make your jokes, but your civilians living the Donbass/Crimea regions will pay the main price....thats how it always goes.

Bobko
9 Jun 2022  #4485

Donbass/Crimea regions will pay the main price

What do you mean by this?

Yes, the West paradoxically placed most sanctions on these two areas in 2014, and not us. This, despite us allegedly being the main culprits. It was amusing and strange to watch the West punish yesterday's Ukrainians, for something that was apparently forced on them.

Now they will probably punish the population of the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions with draconian sanctions.

This logic only makes sense in diseased brain of Western policymakers. If the declared goal is reintegration of lost territories into Ukraine - very curious approach is used.

Paulina
9 Jun 2022  #4486

....make your jokes, but your civilians living the Donbass/Crimea regions will pay the main price....

They've been paying it already.

What do you mean by this?

Ask the dead in Mariupol:

wprost.pl/swiat/10745407/mariupol-rosjanie-koparkami-zbieraja-ciala-cywilow-i-gruz-wscieklosc.html

Velund
9 Jun 2022  #4487

So she went there to fight and you didn't?

I had no one who would pay mortgage payments instead of me. And I had to pay off remainings of a couple of her credits, by the way. And help later many times with finances and my own professional work (not to be discussed publicly). I don't complain, though, and still donate to Andrey Lysenko, who with their volunteer crew help people living in vicinity of front line, under continuous shelling, all that years, without making any difference by political views and nationality.

And there were always enough tankists, far more experienced than I was, more than there were tanks itself.

PolAmKrakow
9 Jun 2022  #4488

Now, if these soldiers are put to death, it will get very ugly when Russians are captured. The sentences in Ukraine for war crimes have been fair and just, now these POS have blown any opportunity to prove they are civilized. The second one of them is killed, is exactly when things will get completely out of control on the ground. But this was to be expected from Orc's. This is exactly why this war needs to go on until Russia leaves and thats what will happen. This will be years not months before it ends.

Crnogorac3
9 Jun 2022  #4489

What does Russia theoretically gain? Discouraging foreign volunteers?

youtu.be/w-D1WpUmqNc

I am glad that they are english, this can be solved very easily. Let's say if you give the ukro-terrorists any more weapons, at least even one bullet, these bastards of yours are hanging, the verdict has already been passed, and if you don't, we will bring them back alive after the end of the war. If you lift our sanctions and return the money you stole. Something like that. It would be good to catch them from different countries and then with everyone to do like that, because satanists do not know any other way how to become normalised.

Bratwurst Boy
9 Jun 2022  #4490

What do you mean by this?

They will probably end up fully Ukrainians or are made to leave....

There will be no pro-russian independent region anymore once this war is over! There will be no such offer or acceptance by Ukraine anymore, and Russians won't have any sympathy and support anymore....its history all over again!

PolAmKrakow
9 Jun 2022  #4491

The Kremlin received nearly 42,000 complaints in April from the relatives of soldiers missing in Ukraine

themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/09/kremlin-receives-almost-42000-complaints-on-missing-ukraine-soldiers-investigation-a77951

Lets keep the Orc roast going shall we? Now all you POS trolls want to say how "off" the number is? Its a report out of Moscow. Your great army is a Fing doog food wagon for all Ukraine wild dogs and nothing more. Happy gulag biatches!

jon357
9 Jun 2022  #4492

if you give th

You should know that the UK never ever gives in to kidnap gangs, never pays ransom money and always wins.

Harming two people will only stiffen resolve to see the orcs driven out of Ukraine.

42,000

Those few still alive are in a very vulnerable position. The one caught on the phone joking with his wife about raping Ukrainian women and was subsequently caught hasn't been seen for a while, has he...

Crnogorac3
9 Jun 2022  #4493

twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1534899800897994753

British MFA, Liz Truss says the decision is illegitimate. A British politician on legitimacy. 😂

You should know that the UK never ever gives in

Little britain is a rotten, mangy, freckled little island which is full of pakistanis. I don't know what illusions you are harbouring about them, maybe they used to be some sort of force once upon a time, but now they are a broken condom and it is necessary to pi$$ all over them maximally.

jon357
9 Jun 2022  #4494

A British politician on legitimacy

Yes. Elected in free and fair elections.

rotten, mangy,

Like you.

full of pakistanis

Like your mother.

Cojestdocholery
9 Jun 2022  #4495

n Donbass still live Russian majority, with same language, culture and identity.

lol! What a lie! Will keep lying or you will show some balls and start speaking the truth. If you even know what it is.

There are any Russian majority and even if there were they could have move back to Russia if they were unhappy with Ukrainie. What about Russian Ukrainian agreemnt from 1997 that you break by agression on Crimea?

By the way Russian is not ethnicity.
Ukrainians that speak Russian are fighting you like hell and don't want anything to do with you!

Former

Do you think you making some kind of a point here zhopnik? Think again. So what?

to stop 8-years long de-facto genocide of Russians on Donbass

What gencide? What Russian arm are doing there? Tanks, guns, rockets? Are they not shooting? Why most of the so called republic offcials had been or are citiznens of the Russian federation? One Russian specnaz colonel too, yapping to this day his BS.

Cojestdocholery
9 Jun 2022  #4496

He isn't just taking care of his country's interests - he goes beyond that.

let him worry about that. It is Hungary and they have different interests than Poland on many fields.

And there were always enough tankists,

lol! a lame excuse, hide well your zhopa Muscovite liar.

soldiers missing in Ukraine

Do you know why they don't collect their soldiers bodies? If there is body family will have to get compensation from Moscow. If they are missing, no money no compensation, cost cutting.

pawian
9 Jun 2022  #4497

these bastards of yours are hanging

If they are executed which I doubt, the perpetrators and corrupt judges will visit the Hague one day. It is obvious.

If you lift our sanctions and return the money

hahaha forget it darling. Sanctions shall stay, you know very well about it. I know you are getting more and more pissed off, together with other RuSSists, but remember, you have brought it on yourselves by yourselves.

Korvinus
9 Jun 2022  #4498

let's say if you give the ukro-terrorists any more weapons

Notice how much time and energy the Vatniks, as an unknowing part of the Russian propaganda machine, spend trying to convince the world to stop supporting Ukraine.

Russia has a brief window where they can still try to present a false front of military power and success in Ukraine (and it isn't a great false front since they are clearly making anemic progress and have had major battlefield setbacks like the defeats around Kyiv and later Kharkiv) to try to persuade the world to stop supporting Ukraine and to try to pressure Ukraine into a ceasefire so Russia can recover.

Seeing the western organizations and groups that have either bought into this propaganda push, or are even part of it, has been quite illuminating.

Not looking like it is going to be too successful though. America, Britain, and Eastern Europe are not backing down on support, and Ukraine's government is well aware of how tenuous Russia's position is, both now and in the long term, compared to theirs. So Ukraine is strongly and publicly pushing back on pressure from some westerners for them to seek a ceasefire at this moment.

pawian
9 Jun 2022  #4499

So Ukraine is strongly and publicly pushing back on pressure from some westerners for them to seek a ceasefire

Quite correctly. The western leaders who press on Ukraine to give up are in minority and are outvoted by the rest. Besides, they are playing a useful role as good policemen.

Crnogorac3
9 Jun 2022  #4500

youtu.be/0drcaok97_s

What Russia Has To Do After Russia Wins

Great analysis.


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