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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



Cojestdocholery
12 Jun 2022  #4771

just Russian delusions was able to stop banderists s

Why would you stop anyone on a territory of another country? It is none of your business what goes in there? If you want to combat neo-nazis there is plenty of those in Russia, if you want to go after facist you have even more work in Russian start with you government and Rosguardia.

It is nothing but agression. Lame exuses save for your trial.

what to expect from a real Russian army?

To bugger off back into their own borders. There is plenty of fasist in Russian they can shoot at. Putin comes to mind or those crazy TV prezenters that talk about nukes and nuking and destrying other countries, about killing POWs, about destroying Ukrianians.

That b..tch is really cheeky. You are going up in the world - you are next level your TV beats North Korea.

jon357
12 Jun 2022  #4772

Navalny stolen some money.

And Putler hasn't?

Though in fact Navalny probably didn't.

Skripals case

Poisoned by russia,despite your pathetic denials.

more likely buried long ago

No, russia's attempt to poison them failed.

It killed an innocent lady and damaged the health of a police detective instead.

Velund
12 Jun 2022  #4773

Why would you stop anyone on a territory of another country?

Same reason as was for US to attack Iraq - safety of our citizens, both on Russian territory and abroad. The only difference - Iraq army never shelled cities with numerous US citizens by mortars and artillery, and attacked them with air to ground missiles.

jon357
12 Jun 2022  #4774

shelled cities with numerous US citizens by mortars and artillery,

Like the pariah state russia has attacked Ukraine?

But don't worry, russia will lose.

Velund
12 Jun 2022  #4775

But don't worry, russia will lose.

Just don't be nervous. Now the nurses will give you an injection, and Russia will lose.

Crnogorac3
12 Jun 2022  #4776

bridge

t.me/opersvodki/5591

A road bridge between Russia and China on the Amur River has been put into operation, which will enable a greater flow of goods in both directions and enable an even easier circumvention of sanctions.

🎊👷👍

youtu.be/jxKObxlGAoQ

BRAVO! Russia and China open a new cross-border bridge in the FAR EAST to further boost trading

johnny reb
12 Jun 2022  #4777

Putin is 'preparing to starve much of the developing world' in order to win Russia's war in Ukraine, Yale historian says.
Lord, please take this maniac home soon.

Velund
12 Jun 2022  #4778

Putin is 'preparing to starve much of the developing world'

Putin also raised prices at American gas stations and removed all baby formula and feminine hygiene products from supermarket shelves. Amazingly productive bastard, isn't he?

Strzelec35
12 Jun 2022  #4779

he also recently just raised the pension by 10 percent for retirees or those on veteran pensions or something.

mafketis
12 Jun 2022  #4780

Another day.... another act of sabotage?

Explosions in the region of Bryansk damage a valve of the druzhba oil pipeline....

apparently fixing a valve is tricky and involves parts that Russia does not produce.... (because insignificant mafia states don't produce anything....)

twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1535950507201679360

Velund
12 Jun 2022  #4781

another act of sabotage

Against EU fuel market? Refineries cannot be quickly adapted for another feedstock, takes time and a LOT of money...

Bobko
12 Jun 2022  #4782

damage a valve of the druzhba oil pipeline....

Bad news for Europe, but most of all for Ukraine.

Strange that they would do this in Russia, when there are thousands of kilometers of pipeline going though Ukraine and other states.


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jon357
12 Jun 2022  #4783

Russia will lose.

For once you're right

a valve of the druzhba oil pipeline....

Good news...

apparently fixing a valve is tricky

It can be...

Crnogorac3
12 Jun 2022  #4784

Pitchforks soon in Europe?

thesaker.is/pitchforks-soon-in-europe/

Bobko
12 Jun 2022  #4785

So far, Russians have bigger guns.

In the Washington Post article I sent yesterday, one Ukrainian soldier is quoted as saying: "They have more artillery shells than we have rounds for our rifles".

On certain sectors of the front, the volume of fire is 1:50 in favor of our side.

I think we can safely conclude that it is Russia that has the bigger guns here. In fact, there are only perhaps one or two national armies on the planet that can come close to our artillery firepower - so you can drain all of European and American stockpiles and perhaps only get close to achieving parity.

Probably best to keep some for yourselves, no? Up to you.

amiga500
12 Jun 2022  #4786

Jomini always provides the best non biased analasys.

twitter.com/JominiW/status/1535446538687856640?cxt=HHwWgIC-4byfgM8qAAAA

mafketis
12 Jun 2022  #4787

I think we can safely conclude that it is Russia that has the bigger guns here

No one doubts that Russia is the most brutal and warlike country in the world. That's settled, there's no danger of anyone thinking that Russia represents anything but theft and violence.

It still doesn't make Russia an important country.... far from it.

Poor Russians want to be taken seriously... and they never will be.

Crnogorac3
12 Jun 2022  #4788

t.me/denazi_UA/12502

Another Brit got killed in Severodonetsk

And to think he too instead could have been chasing the young freckled gals on Trafalgar Square...
:(

Novichok
12 Jun 2022  #4789

No one doubts that Russia is the most brutal and warlike country in the world. That's settled,

Only in your mind and others like you here. The most "brutal and warlike country" is the one that caused the most deaths in military operations.

That definition excludes American abortions and "gun violence", Soviets starving Ukraine, and Mao's purges.
Would you like to start in the year 1900 or 1945 to make it more contemporary?

And to think he too instead could have been chasing the young freckled gals on Trafalgar Square...

Now he can chase angels. He did want to die for "freedom", didn't he?

Bobko
12 Jun 2022  #4790

No one doubts that Russia is the most brutal and warlike country in the world.

Puts an enormous smile on my face. Thank you.

Reminds me of when I stumbled upon a Quora thread about what Chinese people think of Russia. Funny reading. Chinese "surrender frogs", a-là France, are in awe of our Russian ability to fight (but also left in wonderment at our amazing capacity to self destruct).

China got its ass kicked so many times - it is actually pathetic.


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mafketis
12 Jun 2022  #4791

Puts an enormous smile on my face. Thank you.

This is what I mean by narcissistic wound.... Russians want to be respected and important but they don't understand the modern world (thank you mongols) and so they keep trying to become important by means that haven't worked in over a hundred years.

Violent colonial expansion has been over since the outbreak of WWI

Power in the modern world comes primarily from soft power (even hard power is primarily economic now rather than military)

South Korea is a cultural superpower despite its tiny size... (far more so than China).

Turkey is becoming a cultural great power...

Russia isn't even a middling cultural power. It's a ghetto with a culture that has to be imposed at gun point and that people flee from the first chance they get.

Novichok
12 Jun 2022  #4792

Every one of them steadfast in wanting to assist Ukraine.

Why don't they? The border is wide open.
Did you ask them how it went in Afghanistan or did you decide that it would be impolite?

PolAmKrakow
12 Jun 2022  #4793

@Novichok
I have had many conversations with guys that were there. Many are mad that they were forced to leave, and they blame Trump for making a deal with terrorists. Most fell that they shouldnt have left, but some do voice anger over the way they left, and how they didnt have enough time. As for crossing the border, that would be desertion, and good soldiers follow orders. You wouldnt know that though because you hide in a basement enjoying freedoms you do not deserve.

Cojestdocholery
12 Jun 2022  #4794

of our Russian ability to fight

You took it wrong.
It is about Europeans(not in a cultural or political sense) there is that term out there that Europeans are people of war/.

Paulina
12 Jun 2022  #4795

An interesting interview with a Russian economist, Vladislav Inozemtsev:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/rosyjski-ekonomista-putinowi-nigdy-nie-skoncza-sie-pieniadze-na-wojne-6777624408705696a

According to him:

- the sanctions that are in place won't stop war in Ukraine. Destroying Ukraine is Putin's idée fixe, his main political and life goal. His country's economy isn't his priority. Therefore Russia can only be stopped militarily in Ukraine and the West should give the maximum support to Ukraine in this regard,

- Russian economy would get hit harder by a total ban of Western export to Russia, rather than by the ban on import of oil from Russia,

- Russians won't rebel against Putin, because this is not Putin's war, Putin isn't the problem - Russian society is the problem. The war in Ukraine isn't a result of Putinism, it's a part of Russian national identity. Putin didn't indoctrinate Russians with the need for imperialism - he noticed it and built his political success on it. That's why the war in Ukraine is a collective responsibility of all Russian citizens.

According to Inozemtsev, only young Russians view Ukraine as a separate country. The rest of the society view this war as an attempt to return to "normal" (Ukraine being part of Russia).

Putin is Russians' president. They accept him with the whole baggage - lies, aggression, violence. So when the Kremlin propaganda claims that civillians in Bucha were executed by Ukrainians, people eagerly believe that. This is why there's no a feeling of shame in Russia. There's cynicism and primitivism.

The end justifies the means. Bringing back "the unity of Russia" is worth it.

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What do you think about this interview?

Alien
12 Jun 2022  #4796

Exactly my opinion.

Paulina
12 Jun 2022  #4797

The only difference - Iraq army never shelled cities with numerous US citizens by mortars and artillery, and attacked them with air to ground missiles.

Yes, that's what Russian army is doing to people they claimed they wanted to save from Ukrainian "Nazis". A Putinist's mind seems to be a real mental clusterf*ck.

cms neuf
12 Jun 2022  #4798

The DNR troops are not happy

express.co.uk/news/world/1624280/russia-news-army-morale-collapse-donbas-putin-ukraine-war-update

and what a tragic rabble they look in that photo - some too fat, some too thin, all long haired and indisciplined, a pensioner in suspenders who looks like he would be happier pickling cucumbers on Rich's barren dzialka and some dude wearing his pyjama trousers.

Would be funny apart from the sad coda - the guy who had the temerity to complain was murdered and the body thown into his Mum's garden.

mafketis
12 Jun 2022  #4799

The DNR troops are not happy

Of course not, the Russians were using press gangs so they could use locals as cannon fodder (and when they get wiped out their deaths don't count as Russian soldiers)

Russian state actors are all massive hypocrites with no regard for truth....

Crow
12 Jun 2022  #4800

Hey people can you imagine panic if just Putin send call to all ethnic Russians, Russia`s citizens and all Russian speaking people to abandon cities and countries... and he give list of cities and states?

Can you imagine that panic? That solely would be enough of the warning. Last warning most probably.


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