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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



jon357
13 Jun 2022  #4891

none of them have citizenship

They do.

And they're two of many many combatants. Why do you keep bringing them up here since they don't have any special connection to Poland.

gregy741
13 Jun 2022  #4892

don't have any special connection to Poland.

i could. its warning for potential polish volunteers, what gunna happen to them if they get cough. silly stories about "joining ukra army" not gunna work in donbas.

altho , it seems poles are tough in internet comment sections, only one pole confirmed fighting in ukra.
all that talk about "killing onuce,kacaps" but poles displayed mass cowardice at the end

Paulina
13 Jun 2022  #4893

the very first question was "why you joined as paid volunteer "?

The guy asked him: "Why as a British volunteer you're here?" And the first thing Pinner answers, as far as I was able to understand, is: "I believe in the cause, obviously."

because i like it and getting paid to do what i like.

Just like many professional soldiers, dumbass. They become soldiers, because they want to be soldiers, and not plumbers, office workers or painters.

but poles displayed mass cowardice at the end

So all this gossip that you repeated with such passion about two Polish battalions fighting in Ukraine is bullsh1t, huh? :)

gregy741
13 Jun 2022  #4894

professional soldiers, dumbass

pro soldier cant join foreign army dumbass, unless as merc. and even this is unlawful in most countries

Paulina
13 Jun 2022  #4895

@gregy741, from what I've read Pinner is a former British soldier, not active duty (he's 48, btw).

gregy741
13 Jun 2022  #4896

ukras massacred children in donetsk with french artillery again.
will this barbarity ever end?

Paulina
13 Jun 2022  #4897

@gregy741, if you really honestly care so much about children getting massacred then, please, do read this:

amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/06/ukraine-hundreds-killed-in-relentless-russian-shelling-of-kharkiv-new-investigation/

"Russian forces have caused widespread death and destruction by relentlessly bombarding residential neighbourhoods of Kharkiv since their invasion began in late February."

"During an extensive investigation, Amnesty International found evidence of Russian forces repeatedly using 9N210/9N235 cluster munitions as well as scatterable mines, both of which are subject to international treaty bans because of their indiscriminate effects."

will this barbarity ever end?

Yes - when Russian army will pull out of Ukraine. As you can see, they're not welcome.

jon357
13 Jun 2022  #4898

potential polish volunteers

It hasn't deterred many.

only one pole confirmed fighting in ukra

You think they have time to discuss it with you online?

poles displayed mass cowardice at the end

They didn't.

gregy741
13 Jun 2022  #4899

Duda " We ask all our allies to hand over weapons to us, and not necessarily new ones. We have handed over used equipment and are ready to accept used equipment,"

twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1536387386296369153

cms neuf
13 Jun 2022  #4900

Someone further up mentioned Soviet war graves. It is interesting that these are in a disgraceful condition in Poland - the Russian government do nothing to maintain them, in contrast to the British and Commonwealth graves which are very well maintained and the Aussies, Canadians etc contribute to that too, out of respect for brave young men.

All Saints Day is interesting - Soviet graves always get candles from the Polish citizens and I think they even will this year. But the Russian embassy can never be bothered to send any candles or wreaths - absolute callous scum who care nothing for their ordinary soldiers.

gregy741
13 Jun 2022  #4901

wow big one. another ukra lie being exposed :
Sky TG24 reportage:
" one of Bucha's defenders, is willing to talk about it: "Yes, there have been collaborators in Bucha and they were different, we searched for them, stopped them and handed them over to the police"

"Beyond what Viktor can tell us, obviously not all, it is likely that some, or many, of the civilians killed in Bucha could have been pro-Russian collaborators. After all, from the Ukrainian point of view they are traitors, and their fate, in war, is quite sealed"

tg24.sky.it/mondo/2022/06/06/guerra-russia-ucraina-filorussi
looks like there was some safari going on
we know kiev police issued statement saying they would eliminate pro russian collaborators in bucha.
now we have testimony of ukra soldier saying they were hunting them and handing them over to kiev police
strange sky news reported it .people starting to see things ,even some western media changing their reports narrative

jon357
13 Jun 2022  #4902

handing them over to kiev police

Entirely entirely appropriate if they have committed a crime.

gregy741
13 Jun 2022  #4903

kiev police issued official statement ,saying they will eliminate them
thats the thing. it show what happened really in bucha. most victims,almost all off them,had whit armbands . it becomes clear what happened there

we now have testimony of soldier ,admitting hunting pro rus people.

Paulina
13 Jun 2022  #4904

the Russian government do nothing to maintain them

I've read that they did pay for some renovation. Although that guy from Transnistria living in Poland said in one of his videos that those cemeteries of Soviet soldiers in Poland are in better condition than in Russia...

But the Russian embassy can never be bothered to send any candles or wreaths

I don't think that's true - in this video made by this Transnistria guy you can see wreaths from both Polish and Russian authorities (6:16) - at least at the monument:

youtu.be/bWtYub0LiB4

most victims,almost all off them,had whit armbands . it becomes clear what happened there

In all the videos and photos that I've seen I haven't noticed those murdered people wearing any white armbands, so what on Earth are you talking about?

Also, satelite photos have shown dead bodies lying in that street in Bucha when Russian soldiers were still there. So it wasn't the Ukrainian soldiers who killed them. A drone footage also has shown a Russian tank firing at a guy riding on a bicycle in that street. His rotting body and the bicycle was found later by Ukrainian soldiers - it was filmed as they were driving in into Bucha.

mafketis
13 Jun 2022  #4905

will this barbarity ever end?

Russia started the barbarity when it invaded in 2014.... it has kept up the barbarity.

Russia invaded earlier this year. Russia bears the moral responsibility for any civilian deaths. Period.

Stop being a Russian fanboy..... it's a crappy, despotic country that provides nothing beyond raw resources to the world.

gregy741
13 Jun 2022  #4906

Russia invaded earlier this year.

reason was -shelling donetsk by ukra
look at this way. yesterday ukra minister was crying ,they running out of ammo to fight rus soldiers.
and today they fired 300 shells and uragan missiles at residential donetsk.and they shell donetsk every day. there are no soldiers or bases there.
their insanity and barbarity is even beyond logic. they would rather kill civilians than fire them at rus soldiers.

Strzelec35
13 Jun 2022  #4907

" Stop being a Russian fanboy..... it's a crappy, despotic country that provides nothing beyond raw resources to the world."

Youd be surprised there are many all over europe i including a guy with a v symbol on his arm i saw in polabd multiple people including a barman in malta and many right wing americans like those guys on nis. Also many Africans and arabs who hate nato for a good reason.

jon357
13 Jun 2022  #4908

eliminate them

Isn't it part of the role of police to eliminate crime?

happened really in bucha.

The Russians murdered civilians. There is documented evidence of this.

Are you really polish?

Bratwurst Boy
13 Jun 2022  #4909

After the Leopard comes the.....tadaaaa.....PANTHER!!!!



On Monday, the armaments group Rheinmetall surprisingly presented its new main battle tank at the Paris armaments fair Eurosatory. "We expect a lot of international attention for this new top product of German army technology," said Rheinmetall boss Armin Papperger in advance of the successor to the Leopard 2.

focus.de/finanzen/boerse/staerkere-und-weitreichendere-munition-als-beim-leopard-dieser-panzer-koennte-es-mit-putins-t-14-aufnehmen-rheinmetall-praesentiert-panther_id_107962616.html

This listens again to an animal name: "KF 51 Panther". As the newspaper "Die Welt" reports, the 59-ton tracked vehicle has a cannon with a caliber of 130 millimeters, which allows more powerful and long-range ammunition than its predecessor, the Leopard. And a so-called loading machine takes over the loading of the cannons with ammunition - previously this had to be done by hand.

In addition, the "KF 51 Panther" is said to have an autonomous turret that does not require a crew. And it will have its own drone, piloted by a person on board. State-of-the-art war technology, which should attract attention, especially in these times.

The "Panther" is also an answer to Putin's T-14 tank, which was presented in 2015 and is technically superior to the Leopard. The T-14 also has an unmanned turret and a 125mm gun. Countries that want to rearm in view of the Russian invasion of Ukraine will certainly be eager to visit the Rheinmetall stand at Eurosatory.


mafketis
13 Jun 2022  #4910

reason was -shelling donetsk by ukra

Which Russia invaded in 2014 (did you pass third grade?) if you invade a country you're gonna get shelled by the lawful government and you don't get to whine about it. Russia invaded. Russia bears the responsibility for anything that happens and can't complain about a country trying to exert control of its territory.

Are you really polish?

Either russian or a PRL guy who misses the good old days and thumbs through his old copies of Kraj Rad on the weekend....


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gregy741
13 Jun 2022  #4911

Are you really polish?

yes. am not pro russian really. dont care bout russia that much
pro donbas -yes, and since they work together ,its natural to me to support russia in this war.
russia did lotta good helping syria to achieve somehow stable situation. conflict i followed closely.
ukra nazis did lotta s.hit in donbas,and i dont blame nomal ukra people. they are victims of nazi elements plus some oligarchs like kolomoyski ,who are the reason for this mess . normal people pay the price

Paulina
13 Jun 2022  #4912

and today they fired 300 shells and uragan missiles at residential donetsk and they shell donetsk every day. there are no soldiers or bases there.

Do you have any proof for your claims?
Did you read the Amnesty International report that I linked to?

we now have testimony of soldier ,admitting hunting pro rus people.

He admitted handing collaborators to the police. The rest is a wild guess, verging on false accusation, by the author of this article, not backed up by any evidence that I know of:

"Beyond what Viktor can tell us, obviously not all, it is likely that some, or many, of the civilians killed in Bucha could have been pro-Russian collaborators."

And if that's really what is written in that article - I don't know, since I don't know Italian.

gregy741
13 Jun 2022  #4913

Do you have any proof for your claims?

absolutely shocking what they did today. maternity hospital shelled ,so far 13 victims
twitter.com/TrumpFix/status/1536411230209986561
twitter.com/TrumpFix/status/1536413056703639553
twitter.com/TrumpFix/status/1536412612413497344
twitter.com/TrumpFix/status/1536339172834873344
dozen videos around. kids killed on streets.
whats the point?
woman, just open twitter ,put donetsk in explore bar . its not difficult

jon357
13 Jun 2022  #4914

@gregy741
'trump fix'???

gregy741
13 Jun 2022  #4915

absolutely madness
twitter.com/TrumpFix/status/1536415414762323970
i dont know what those criminals in kiev trying to achieve?
Americans refused providing them with long range missiles after kiev junta heavy shelled donetsk last time. quoting "possible misuse"
now ,it will be hard for western and especially french to deliver them heavy artillery
kiev criminal insanity is causing them more and more problems.
look at this:
twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1536415899334365185

PolAmKrakow
13 Jun 2022  #4916

@gregy741
You are such a tool. All the sorrow and BS when Russia just bombed the $hit out of Ukraine civilians. Anyone in Donetsk is either Russian, or a supporter of Russia, they can leave or die, same way Russia treated Ukrainians. So be it.

Paulina
13 Jun 2022  #4917

absolutely shocking

lol
Where were you when Russians were shelling Mariupol, including maternity hospital and a theater full of civillians???

what they did today. maternity hospital shelled

Where?
I don't see any dead children lying in the streets either in those videos you linked to.

woman, just open twitter ,put donetsk in explore bar . its not difficult

Baby boy, I doubt I will see anything different to what Russians have been doing to Ukraine since the beginning of the invasion - I've seen plenty of photos and videos of destroyed civillian buildings, I've seen photos of murdered civillians. Children were killed on the other side too, some lost their limbs, other lost their parents, homes, schools and they're being deprived of their childhood in the name of some sick Russian imperial fantasies.

I'll ask you again - did you read that Amnesty International report I linked to?

gregy741
13 Jun 2022  #4918

some people claim that aslin was a commander of isis unit

twitter.com/naderimohammed1/status/1536271320660451329

more and more we learning bout those guys

Where?
I don't see any dead children lying in the streets either.

twitter.com/DrunkleZOV/status/1536337858037837824

Crnogorac3
13 Jun 2022  #4919

t.me/denazi_UA/12616

t.me/denazi_UA/12617

t.me/denazi_UA/12621

Ukro-terrorist attacks continue. Although it is a reflection of weakness & powerlessness to deliberately shoot and kill civilians, the terrorists who do that deserve to be subjected to a tried and tested method of punishment...

Vlad Tepes

Cojestdocholery
13 Jun 2022  #4920

and they are mercs by geneva conv,

Which & in the GC says that those two Brits are mercs?

ADMITTING joining volunteer azov battalion

Don't know and don't care? What they would addmit it? Is that is a crime? If being a soldier in Azov battlion is a crime than being a soldier in Russian Militray is even bigger crime.

Stop being a Russian fanboy.

He is Russian after all. He should go and join the fight in Ukrainie, all we have here are couch patriots of Russia. Cowards with big gobs! lol!


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