Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

@mafketis
He has no experience in any country, only hanging out eating taco's on the south side of Chicago. The problem with all of the brilliant think tank like minds of the Russian trolls here is that the arguments are based on historical reference points 20 to 80 years or so old. None of the arguments are sensibly made on the Peter The Great theory that really is Putin's basis for this war.

All the Russian tough talk is really funny, I mean that seriously. Not one leader of the west actually fears a war with Russia. While not one wants a war with Russia, no one fears it because of the overwhelming superiority of NATO to Russian forces. Through in Belarus and the other turd world nations and still, Russia would be crushed. Russia being the school yard bully picked a fight with a country it knew it would not get knocked out with if Ukraine landed a lucky first punch. But Ukraine has proven to be scrappy and willing, and Russia did not expect that. So when the expected three round fight turns into a twelve round fight, Russia is going to have more problems.

Sure Russia will likely secure Donbas in the coming days. Fighting will then become less street warfare and more missiles, long range artillery and insurgent actions behind those secured lines. Once those heavy weapons are pouring in and hitting Russian targets things will change. After all Russia has flattened the cities so there are not many places to hide. Happy gulag biatches!

Meanwhile in the real world...

Mykhailo Podolyak has gone on a rampage and, apparently, has decided to become the chief mouthpiece of the Ukrainian Reich. After answering Biden personally, he demands the West to provide more weapons than many NATO countries have! 😂

For example, to scrape together 500 tanks for Zelensky, who had over 2,000 at the beginning of the year, Britain, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden will have to give up all their working modern tanks. It is taking into account that 240 tanks have already been handed over to AFU from Poland alone. Why so modest, Michal? Demand 5 thousand tanks! So let's have a party, especially if the banquet is paid by respectable western partners! 🥳

The bulk of NATO's armored vehicles are mothballed. In 2017, the decision to mothball 104 Leopard 2 tanks cost Germany more than $800 million. But the most interesting thing is that the program for the re-conservation was designed for six years. That is the production rate was 17 tanks per year. Same story for howitzers and everything else. 😏

The speed at which the AFU is losing armaments has impressed the finance ministers of Western countries to such an extent that they are the ones who eventually initiated the winding down of this whole celebration of military-industrial complex life, and are now thinking about trying to start looking for some kind of compromise with Russia. 😂

Why do you care what western finance ministers want or think ? The Ukrainians might not get much help from Portugal or Belgium but they will get plenty from Poland, Czech, Lithuania, Austria and the true freedom loving countries like the US, Canada, Australia and the UK. They all realize that drunken bullies must be opposed.

How are Russia's allies by the way ? Lukaszenko, Assad and a few scrublands in Africa. Did their troops get or weapons arrive yet ?

Bodies of Ukrainians discovered with knees shot 'tells us' that people were tortured.
Just wait until the movie comes out.
Meanwhile, Russia begins training Venezuelan military to use attack choppers, a helicopter pilot training center, created with the help of Russian specialists.
Interesting to say the least.

Scholz and Micron can be added to that list.

The Russians are training people ? LOL

Maybe writing gloomy novels, preparing slimy food, filming amateur **** or getting hammered before breakfast are true Russian skills but flying a helicopter ? Really ?

So, if they are losing so much equipment and receiving very little, then I suppose the front is already broken in several places, Ukrainian troops are encircled in many cauldrons and Russian tanks are advancing along the entire frontline!

No... wait a minute...

liveuamap.com/pl

... :)

Facts, people - let's look at the map and stick to the facts. :)

@Velund
The real world is where the rest of us live, not you or Russia. Your dream of reestablishing the former USSR empire will fail, in fact it likely will not get beyond this small portion of Ukraine. Maybe Georgia or Moldova go back, but thats really all Russia and Putin could hope for. The US alone has more soldiers in Poland than Belarus has in their whole army, so if they did anything they would be wiped out pretty quickly. Russia taking on NATO is a losing proposition and Putin knows it. The imperial dreams of Russia are delusions of grandeur really, just dreams never to be realized without having them blown up in their faces.

I understand you Russian POS need something to be proud of. After all your country is a dumpster fire, so its only natural to want to be something more than a burnt turd in the dumpster. So, Russia, after the war will continue to be one of the worlds best exporters of women to UAE. You can hang your hat on that. Congratulations, more meat for another type of machine since thats all Russians are to its government. Meat for processing. Happy gulag biatches!

You great stupid wazzock - he was fighting on the Kurdish side.

The goal was to make Russia look strong, and to convince countries that this is a bi-polar world, where they don't HAVE TO side with the USA, and they can side with Russia too. Russia is a heckin valid superpower that you can orbit!

And I don't think the goal is being achieved. Russia looks bad factually, and looks terrible in the international memes that actually legitimately form opinion these days. Think of the proverb "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt". This can be said about Russia's claim about being a military superpower and a potential rival to the USA. If you are Turkmenistan, for example, and you are thinking if you want to align with USA, Russia, China, Iran or whoever, then you are today less likely to align with Russia than you were in 2013. In that sense, I think Russia hasn't accomplished its goal, even if they secure a military victory and some of, or all of, the eastern territories.

Looks like even Serbia will stop buying Russian oil.

Russian hyper-patriot, singer of patriotic lieder (and guessing from his pictures..... closet case.....?) Oleg Gazmanov retweets a picture of "Who (Russia) is fighting".... except it's a two year old picture of Salvadoran gang members...

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1536637854151020544

I just discovered his twitter feed and I think google translate and I are in for some fun times.....

Good idea, so there are people who know it.
Former chief Sir Richard Shirreff tells 'The National' how the alliance can cope with Russian aggression,

He was DSACEUR NATO. I read his book a few years ago warning of the danger that russia poses.

The book was accused of fearmongering however he's been proven right.

Looks like there is now video evidence of Putin the punk shaking and wobbling at an award ceremony making its way into the public domain. Clearly this man is ill, nothing that one bullet to the temple cant fix though. Happy gulag biatches!

Yes, read about it here while you are laughing about it.

americanmilitarynews.com/2019/04/russia-is-now-training-pilots-at-new-venezuela-training-center/

show us this video. we wanna see your idiotic claim ,meant for polish imbeciles on pf.produced by some cretin from interia.pl

I saw that too. A few newspapers in different countries have it. He's obviously very ill.

please link.let expose you garbage lies . again. as it seems you are unable to speak truth.
why is iit so hard to link to this video?

well? nothing? jon?
i tell you what it is with "putin sick" video.
its cheap propaganda for imbeciles like you jon and polkrakow,
they basically titled "putin sick,wobbling" a video from long ceremony.there is nothing about puting wobbling or looking sick in actuall video,but
media know that only small percentage of people will actually watch this ceremony,so its easy to lie. most readers just read the title and assume its there.

Why is there so much speculation? Maybe because Russia is a closed, paranoid country with a closed, paranoid government that lies to everyone (citizens and non-citizens alike) which reduces the rest of the world to speculation because of a lack of verifiable (or reliable) information from the government....

Maybe if Russia stopped lying and covering up for three seconds people wouldn't be reduced to looking at film and trying to decypher it.....

no . its cheap garbage propaganda by polish media
its aim to portrait putin as mentally ill,and invasion of ukraine is result of some puin madness,sickness, hes dying ect.
its for stupid people,who follow simple primitive reasoning.you give them simple explanation of the event.
no need to dwell and explain possible reasons for this conflict, because its the risk that one would realize ,western doesnt have clean hands in ukraine. ect.

so basically works like this:
you dont need to argue with someone valid arguments and points,its easier to just attack person and tell the world hes mental.this will work on mostly ignorant and stupid society

You don't think a desire to recreate the USSR is sickness or madness?


What should the west do with Ukraine?

I was eating dinner. An i supposed to take my phone with me to reply to Putler trolls?

Find the video on twitter. That's how I found it when PAC mentioned it.


And when Putler sways, grips tables and is visibly deteriorating, and when flight manifests show he's had 40+ visits from a cancer specialist, what is anyone to think?

The sooner he dies the better.

and you prove my point.
invasion of ukraine is result off many factors.
one of major,is collapse of global security balance. us/western pushed too hard here.
but its easier to tell silly people-look putin wants ussr and hes mad,wobbling ect.rather than explain global security issues


only thing deteriorated are your brain cells and morality. so where is link to this video?


bro. it should never meddle in the first place.removing yanu was criminal act. resulted in civil war.
it seems like western actors didnt predict such pandora box.
they hoped for quick and clean removal and dragging ukra into western sphere.didnt work as they planned.
now its a mess. and i dont know if there is a easy way out of it.

Did you see that?

youtu.be/mIIwg72bCXg

... looks like something's seriously wrong with Vladimir Vladimirovich - struggling to stand, wobbling and shaking like a leaf.

i see your stupidity only.guy is standing there and shifted balance from one leg to another.,as every human would do. even 20 years old.

and russian shill detected (again) he was not "removed" he ran like a scared rabbit

the impetus for the unrest that brought him down came from Ukrainians, to ascribe the fall of Y to the "West" or the US is to say that Ukrainians have no agency but are simply helpless pawns and is extremely offensive


There's a very easy way out of it... Russia withdraws and starts paying resitution.

Wha'ts hard about that?

Shifting balance my ars*e! This is unnatural, as if he was about to fall, and not controlling the movement at all. Horrible. Reminds me of John Paul II in his later years.


I posted one of the video links above. Looks very bad. I wonder if it's indeed a serious case of cancer as many reports claim or something else.

again. you just too primitive to understand simple conversation.
am talking about way out off current situation. and its obvious ,russia is not withdrawing.
you speak like this girl, "IF YOU'RE HOMELESS.... JUST BUY A HOUSE"
what you proposing its a wish not a valid solution to problem