Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

Na ja.....how do you say in german? "Abgerechnet wird zum Schluß!"

The Wehrmacht occupied once Europe and had Moscow in their binoculars....and look how it ended....

Like Putin.


Tell Vladolf Putler.

That Texan is not fighting because he has found out that Ukrainians with mordern weapons and training fight back a bit harder than the ducks and hogs he is used to shooting at down in Amarillo. Like all American gun nuts he would last just a few minutes in an actual war.

Of course I am forgetting Dirk with his status as an officer.

Of course sanctions take time to work. Even when the West bans exports of certain products to Russia (like plane parts or oil extraction technologies), there are still some reserves Russia has to keep going for a limited time.

Russia is trying to introduce import substitution since the first sanctions were introduced after stealing Crimea from Ukraine in 2014. And according to Russian senator from Putin's party United Russia Andrey Klishas this effort has completely failed: theguardian.com/world/2022/may/20/russians-feel-sting-of-cultural-and-economic-rift-sanctions-ukraine

And we haven't even introduced the oil embargo and removed Russian gas from the European markets. So there are still many things we can do.

But tell me, if sanctions do sh*t to Russian economy, why the whole 'lift the sanctions now' screetching that comes from Moscow? I am very curious about this.

You are spot on.
The Putin Lovers crow on and on on this forum about how the sanctions are not working because they know full well that they are working and that it will take time for them to take full effect.

When Russia loses this war, which they are already doing,these pro Putin supporters will shut up.

t.me/RtrDonetsk/6833

Here are the brave hamerican warriors. Take a good look at them.

Well, there is no use that they are now pacifists, they definitely have to grease the rope!

Regarding the captured American mercenaries now there will be a story going about how they came to Ukraine because of the pussy, as if they fell in love blah blah blah, and then they wanted to do humanitarian work, but then the ukrops without asking them anything sent them to the front line...

Good script, C3. Unluckily for them, their lawyers will not be as creative as you are.

Quoting:

Kyiv reveals its weapons losses
Ukraine has lost up to half of its heavy weapons and Western supplies are unable to fill the gap, the military has said.

...and comments:

Gerry Bell
Not a matter of howitzers anymore; just a matter of whenitzers.

CHEVI789
Funny, I thought they were winning the war and will take back all their land including Crimea, how's that going for you?,lol.

Novichok
If a man can claim he is a woman, Ukraine can claim it's winning.

Over and over, all you trolls do is repeat arguments and compare prior wars of the US to this one. Meanwhile you ignore that Russia guaranteed Ukraine's safety in exchange for giving up nukes. You ignore that Ukraine has done nothing aggressive toward Russia. You ignore that Ukraine was told "no" to NATO membership. And you argue that joining the EU is an issue even after Putin himself said yesterday that EU membership was a matter for Ukraine to decide upon themselves.

Putin is trying to solidify his legacy by taking land and expanding the country, nothing more. He is likely dying of something, and this is his last bold move. While I totally understand why he is doing it, that still does not justify it. And this is where all the troll arguments lose. There is simply no justification.

Now, when rocket launchers finally reach Ukraine before the end of the month, Ukraine will have a little more fire power. It certainly wont even things up, but yes, as Bobko said, there will be some payback. That is just what was inevitable when Russians killed about 10,000 Ukraine civilians. So prepare for it. Again, while I understand the reasoning, I dont agree with the tactic, but it will happen.

Anyone listening to Putins speech or reading the transcripts can see there is a window of negotiation he is gently trying to open. Talking about how restoring communication with Ukraine is inevitable and other items. He knows that Russia can not continue this pace of sacrificing men and arms for what they are getting in return. 25% of his entire military is gone for 20% of Ukraine? Not a good return on investment by any calculation. But hey, the new Lada is definitely going to have a new high tech navigation system featuring a spin cycle mode due to the microchips being repurposed from Ukraine washing machines. Happy gulag biatches!

t.me/intelslava/31434

The Alabama boys $hitting their pants with fear. And how could they not be. You come to Rus to kill Russians, and then the Russians capture you alive.

Listen, now they are supposedly against the war haha. They worked all their lives as professional soldiers in the American army, and now after that they come as volunteers to Kievan Rus to kill Russians. But they are against the war.

Crno those gays might not be your scene, not mine either, but they are voters and taxpayers and they have the same rights as all the other citizens. Thet can also tell Biden honestly what they think about his rule. That is far more beautiful than your creepy picture of Putin with those sycophants and plastic smiles.

That is democracy - what Ukraine is fighting for.

The funny thing is that Crno thinks that there is anything wrong with the second picture. Putin can pose half-nude as much as he wants, but god forbide someone else does it.

I do wonder though if Putin actually met those people, or if its just another doctored picture.

It's all evil homosexual conspiracy to infect Russia with gayness and Ukraine is currently supplied with rainbow colored NATO rockets. Crnogorac be like...



... :D

Stalin had his useful idiots but Putin is the Ultimate Useful Idiots Puppetmaster.

You know, this is the thread about the War in Ukraine. People talk about Russia and Ukraine here.
I haven't seen a single person in this thread claiming that getting rid of Putin would solve any problem in the West.

Apparently some idiots think Russia is some kind of paradise which flows with milk and honey, just because they don't worship blacks or the LGTBQ community. Fact is, Russia is a developing nation with an economy that relies almost exclusively on the export of finite natural resources. Most attempts to redevelop the economy have failed.

Putin is not doing anything to bring about regime change in the West, if anything he's temporarily strengthening existing governments in the West and making them more unified. Focusing on Russia distracts the West and prevents it from focusing on its internal problems.

Thanks to the Russian invasion of Ukraine Polish support for NATO skyrocketed and according to recent polls it reached 94%, with only 0,5% against membership in the alliance.

Nobody here misses Russian 'friendship'.

It's a nice picture taken after a cabaret show.

Such a contrast to the seedy mafia strip shows all over Moscow and in fact anywhere with a significant r*ssian population.


It's r*ssia. Every one of them at some point has had to put out to an old fat bloke to get something she wants or needs.

...they also have the highest abortion rate in the world, the 2nd highest divorce rate in the world and African-like HIV prevalence rate; a mainstay of Christianity indeed!

Personally, I find the part of Russian propaganda that's depicting Russia as the defender of Christian Faith and morals the most annoying and manipulative. It's amazing how many people in the US, in the evangelical circles, fall for it and practically side with Russia (some of them even join Orthodox churches). Un-be-lie-va-ble...

I could swallow the bits about "NATO crawling on their doorstep", "preemptive strike", "horrible banderists", "ban on Pushkin" etc. etc. because there is a grain (a very small one, mind you) of truth in them. However, this "defenders of faith from evil gays" stuff really gets on my nerves. :-/

Serbian channel HelmCast interviewed the American captives.

youtu.be/V6br5MR2LHM

In this way, when they are caught, everyone is against the war, they did not see any fighting.

All those foreign dogs of war should be nicely tied up with chains and escorted through the streets of Novorussian cities, and the inhabitants should be allowed to spit on them and throw buckets full of faeces. And then nicely sentence them to death and get rid of them.

That's more about two or three mentally ill posters here than r*ssian propaganda in general.

Nobody thinks that r*ssia are defenders of anything since we can see exactly what they are from their behaviour in Ukraine, in Chechnya, in Georgia, in Afghanistan, in Czechoslovakia and in Hungary. And before that tio in Poland and Germany.

Good that 10000 Ukrainian troops at a time will receiving training from/in the UK. This could really change things for the better.

Unfortunately, it's not the case...

newstatesman.com/world/europe/ukraine/2022/03/putin-believes-he-is-defending-orthodox-christianity-from-the-godless-west

politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/how-russia-became-a-leader-of-the-worldwide-christian-right-214755/

mercatornet.com/how-can-vladimir-putin-be-described-as-a-defender-of-christian-values/78254/

insideover.com/religion/russias-return-as-defender-of-christianity.html

theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/06/vladimir-putin-a-miracle-defender-of-christianity-or-the-most-evil-man

... this has been a prevailing narrative within Russian propaganda for quite a long time now. Complete and utter nonsense but a lot of people fall for it.

You didn't check what newspapers are those. Mostly they try to tie up Christanity with Russian to dimish it.
Generally those circles of freaks in the USA who would fall for it are the same people who would clalim that for example Catholicks are not Chirstians.

The important thing is that it's exactly the image that Kremlin is trying to project about themselves, and a lot of people are falling for it, even in Poland - I remember reading an article about it in "Polonia Christiana" some time ago, and even if you read comments on Polish portals, there's surprising number of people repeating this nonsense. Annoys the heck out of me. :-/

To be honest I don'T care what they fight for. As long as they fight Russia, I hope Russia will lose. That is the exstend of my view, after all Ukrianins with their Bandera nonsene will face the need to sort it out after the war.

As I say - one problem at the time.


if that is your mentality and values than you a lower then a dog. Sit!


Why? There is no lesson in it. Kick the sh't out of Ivan and don't let him get a bike.
If he does he will do it again once his bruzed ass heals. Let teach Ivan a lesson they will say with him for long.

They come from as far as South Korea to help Ukraine out:

The famous South Korean Navy Seal Ken Rhee has uploaded footage of himself and other members of Ukraine's Foreign Legion evacuating a wounded soldier after a reconnaissance mission went bad.

Ken was wounded days later & returned to SK for rehab.

He risks 1 year in prison in SK.

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1538144687168659457

....reminds me about about the "internationalen Brigaden" back in pre-WWII Spain.....

Ken Rhee was prosecuted in South Korea on June 15th but has stated that "his time in Ukraine was worth it" and that he wants to go back as soon as possible.

twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1538147432315371521

Brave people, many of them Polish..

I wonder if there are any Nepalis in the Ukrainian Foreign Legion. Many Ghurkas are in the British Army however others are in the Indian and Nepali Armies. They're famous for their effectiveness as soldiers.

This is actually true. Less so in my neck of the woods (Northeast), but quite a lot of people joining the so called Diocese of the South, of the OCA (Orthodox Church of America, separate from ROCOR and Moscow Patriarchate). Yesterday's evangelists and Catholics, of non-Slavic extraction, citing canonical law and quoting from the Fathers, to denounce the entire Western religious project.

These people scare me. They love Russia and Russians more than Russians themselves. They tell me about my holy mission as a Russian to defend the true orthodox faith, not knowing exactly who they speak to.

Russia is not stuff of myth or legend, it's a real country, with real problems, and real perspectives. I don't want to fulfill some redneck's vision of what my heroic fight against the Devil should look like.

That may be changing real soon as China is now sending advance weaponry to Russia.
This could help end the war sooner than later in Russia's favor unless they continue their march into Poland.


I correct these self proclaimed "Christians" every time I hear one of them say that.
You are right Cojestdocholery, these judgmental Baptist Bible thumpers think they are the only ones going to heaven.

@Bobko

Exactly. This is a brutal war for power, zones of influence, markets, economy etc., not a crusade for Christianity.

@Velund

I don't use this dodgy Telegram thing.

Some nice news here about international support for Ukraine in repelling r*ssia's illegal and unprovoked invasion.

telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/06/18/britains-response-ukraine-best-western-powers/

@jon357


Which makes me wonder - why? What vital interest does Britain have in Russia's defeat? Poland's reasons are obvious...

- we don't want to be the next country on the menu;
- the longer the war takes the more time we have to prepare our defences;
- we don't necessarily want Germany to go back to "business as usual" with Russia (not with the current Russian government anyway) for obvious reasons;

- if Ukraine is weakened as well as Russia by the prolonged war and loses some territory, so much the better (weaker they are less of a threat to us and will have smaller influence as a future EU member);

... but what are Britain's reasons? The real reasons, I mean.

Being American spearhead in Europe?


is that your son?
By the way you need take him to a doctor ....