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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



Tacitus
28 Jun 2022  #5761

Russia has collapsed before without going insane. No need for fearmongering.

Crow
28 Jun 2022  #5762

I think its the so called west that losing war. In any sense. Conventional, economic, biological and maybe even nuclear if come to that.

GefreiterKania
28 Jun 2022  #5763

I think its the so called west that losing war.

Doesn't look like it, Crow. It looks like on 24th February China unleashed Russia as a test rabbit, and now they are analyzing the results of the test. What is Russia doing at the moment is difficult to say (see #14,739).

Tacitus
28 Jun 2022  #5764

so called west that losing war

No Western soldier has died so far. No buildings have been destroyed. Meanwhile Russia is bleeding out economically and militarily.

Velund
28 Jun 2022  #5765

t.me/intelslava/32113

Roscosmos releases satellite imagery of decision centers ahead of NATO summit

While at the upcoming summit of the alliance, representatives of 30 participating countries and their sympathizers will declare Russia the number one evil, Roskosmos publishes entertaining satellite images - those same "decision centers", well, coordinates, just in caseπŸ˜‰

β €β €πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ 38.897542, -77.036505
β €β €πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ 38.870960, -77.055935
β €β €πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ 51.503049, -0.127727
β €β €πŸ‡«πŸ‡· 48.870433, 2.316842
β €β €πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ 52.519903, 13.368921
β €β €πŸ‡§πŸ‡ͺ 50.879986, 4.425771

jon357
28 Jun 2022  #5766

Meanwhile r*ssia is bleeding out economically and militarily.

Basically declining fast.

declare r*ssia the number one evil

They are.

decision centers

Nothing secret there.

And don't assume that NATO countries aren't several steps ahead of r*ssia.

PolAmKrakow
28 Jun 2022  #5767

@Velund
Really, just stop the saber rattling. Its laughable. NATO will destroy Russia one way or another. This is just a fact. You can join the rest of Russia and get used to 1990 again maybe even 1980. "We got nukes" yes you do, and so do we. So what. What is the response to Kaliningrad? Nothing. Why? Because NATO is waiting. Where is Belarus in the war? Nowhere. Why? Because they would be wiped out very quickly, and the puppet would be overthrown with no military in Minsk. Next threat?

Velund
28 Jun 2022  #5768

What is the response to Kaliningrad?

How impatient you are, cockerel... ;) There will be retaliation for Kaliningrad, and for other things. At the opportune moment for Russia. There is a lot of accumulated things, unanswered, but not forgotten.

johnny reb
28 Jun 2022  #5769

Putin will be dead soon and the 'nuke' threats will stop.
Russia's gas station will run out of gas.
Putin's forces are accepting a level of degraded combat effectiveness, which is probably unsustainable in the long term.
NATO is just waiting to clean this mess up and put a 'Closed for business' sign on it.

PolAmKrakow
28 Jun 2022  #5770

@Velund
Meanwhile Kaliningrad will essentially stop the majority of its economic activity, no building, and limited basic supplies. So, keep waiting, and NATO will keep preparing. Again, no one is afraid or Russia's incompetent military, they should be afraid of themselves and their boomerang bombs. lmfao

johnny reb
28 Jun 2022  #5771

Frustrated Putin is holding Ukrainian agricultural products hostage.
He's blockading Black Sea routes, bombing silos and infrastructure and otherwise manipulating Ukraine's consumption and sale.
It's clear that, in his desperation, he is prepared to employ a new weapon that could devastate civilian populations.
FOOD !

cms neuf
28 Jun 2022  #5772

Enough of the hype about the food - Australia and Canada will easily be able to make up the surplus. We can export Ukrainian grain through Poland and Romania, airlift if needed. Argentina can also increase production quickly if they sort out the politics.

Eat something else apart from corn.

I am sick of Putin and the Russian people (all of them) thinking they can hold the rest of the world hostage. We don't need their grain.

Alien
28 Jun 2022  #5773

@cms neuf; We don't need their grain.
Yes, we have to grab their balls.

PolAmKrakow
28 Jun 2022  #5774

@cms neuf
I think these feelings are shared by more people on a daily basis. If Putin is dead the world, including Russians will rejoice. There is a certain segment of Russia that knows that Russia will never be all it could be until Putin and others like him are completely wiped out. Pressure will make the pipes burst eventually, and the more pressure the west can create, the better. Kaliningrad lmfao "wait and see", "we will teach you", and all the other BS said by Russians is comical now.

Keep throwing missiles from the cold war into Ukraine. Keep killing civilians. Russia is running out of the accurate weapons, and Ukraine is just now getting them. My money still on Ukraine.

Velund
28 Jun 2022  #5775

t.me/supertima/452

Video from CCTV cameras at the pond "Garyachka" near the Kredmash plant in Kremenchug has appeared. They show an explosion right behind the pond, just where the workshops are located. This footage is 100% proof that the missile hit the plant and not the shopping center.

So yesterday's guess is fully confirmed and we have an ironclad proof. Thanks, surprise, to the Ukrainian telegram channels that published the video 😁

Now what will Kuleba be shaking today at the UN Security Council? πŸ€”

jon357
28 Jun 2022  #5776

This footage is 100% proof

It isn't.

fully confirmed

It isn't.

Nobody believes your pathetic little denials.

From the Kremlin spokesperson:

"He admitted that the shopping centre "caught fire" because of the r*sian attack but insisted that Moscow thought it was shut down."
telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/06/28/watch-drone-footage-shows-extent-devastation-kremenchuk-shopping/

Velund
28 Jun 2022  #5777

Nobody believes

We don't give a fcuk about beliefs of Mr. Nobody. This is cameras that doesn't lie. ;) Military target was precisely attacked, and its position right behind shopping mall is not a Russian Army problem.

jon357
28 Jun 2022  #5778

We don't give a fcuk about beliefs of Mr. Nobody

Which is why your attempts to lie are pointless, orc.

Even the lowlife at the Kremlin admitted it.

But hey, a r*ssian troll tries to lie here.

Perhaps you thinks we are as stupid as you.

PolAmKrakow
28 Jun 2022  #5779

@Velund
LMFAO you don't GAF? Really? Then why do you keep responding? All your propaganda and lies are not working here. Really, you are a punchline to a bad joke called Russia.

Your country can't even beat Ukraine! Unprepared, and nearly unarmed and in four months the big bad Russian army is still struggling! What a bunch of losers. Pathetic.

Velund
28 Jun 2022  #5780

Perhaps you thinks we are as stupid as you.

You greatly overestimate my opinion of your intellectual abilities. ;)

Sapienti sat.

jon357
28 Jun 2022  #5781

Tough shΔ«t.

You still lie shamelessly without any effect other than either boring people or amusing them.

A new low was when you just tried to deny an attack that the Kremlin admitted.

Feel free to waste tour time though; you won't change one opinion, effectively introduce once element of confusion or cast doubt on even one of the many evil deeds of r*ssia.

And r*ssia is losing the war they started!

Your country can't even beat Ukraine!

They thought they were the second best army in the world. Now the world knows they are only the second best army in Ukraine.

johnny reb
28 Jun 2022  #5782

The NATO summit coming up ought to be very interesting.
Turkeys President Erdogan has balked at a NATO plan to fast track the admission of Finland and Sweden and is trashing NATO's plans to admit them.

The two Northern European nations have pushed for admittance into the alliance after Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Turkey has been angered by what it has claimed is Helsinki and Stockholm's support for Kurdish militants and arms embargoes on Ankara.
Turkey maintains that the admission of Sweden and Finland entails risks for its own security and the organization's future.
So, who is more important to have for an allie, Turkey or Finland and Sweden who all of a sudden fear Russia after seeing what Russia has done to Ukraine.

GefreiterKania
28 Jun 2022  #5783

Turkey agreed to support Sweden and Finland in their bid to join NATO...

wydarzenia.interia.pl/zagranica/news-turcja-zgodzila-sie-na-dolaczenie-finlandii-i-szwecji-do-nat,nId,6122603

Bratwurst Boy
28 Jun 2022  #5784

Turkey agreed to support Sweden and Finland in their bid to join NATO

Do you know what Erdogan got for that?

Crow
28 Jun 2022  #5785

Maybe Putin told him to let them into NATO. Russia now have them all in one place where they share responsibility. NATO lose, Russia decide what state exist and what does not.

Bratwurst Boy
28 Jun 2022  #5786

NATO lose,

....now that is wishful thinking!

The other scenario is also possible....NATO wins and decides what to do with Russia, huh?

Crow
28 Jun 2022  #5787

Dismantle of NATO won`t be humiliating for the USA. Its not that big deal. Its anyway spent alliance. Russia have much more to lose so Russia won`t lose.

USA/Russia richest magnates don`t wish to lose everything. Dismantle of NATO and EU and `New Yalta` would be compromise. Its logical.

Velund
29 Jun 2022  #5788

NATO wins and decides what to do with Russia, huh?

Corrected variant - NATO wins and trying to decide where to resettle not so numerous survivors, as clean lands on other continents is already overcrowded and people is ready to fight for their food reserves and agriculture land.

Russian military doctrine and activated "Perimeter" system doesn't leave much chances for other variants of NATO win.

PolAmKrakow
29 Jun 2022  #5789

@Velund
More meaningless threats from you? Really, your whole schtick is old and tired just like everything Russian. Survivors? You mean like Russians in Kaliningrad who will soon be eating their cats? You and your country are just a bad joke.

Now how about those MRLS? Now being used effectively in this war to blow up Russians and their ammunition depot's. Hard to fight wars when your ammo gets taken away from you, even harder when you were already running out of the good ammo to begin with. Now with Sweden and Finland assured of getting into NATO, every Russian paranoid fear can be realized and you have NATO on nearly every border. Maybe it is Russia that needs to negotiate now?

GefreiterKania
29 Jun 2022  #5790

NATO lose, Russia decide

How about "Ukraine lose, Russia decide" first? I find it incredible that people who see that Russia is incapable of defeating even a poor and corrupt former Soviet republic, can fantasize about them defeating NATO. :) How? Give me one plausible scenario, even a far-fetched one, of Russia winning (in any perceivable sense of this word) against NATO.

More meaningless threats from you?

It's actually a good thing. The more they cast their empty threats all around, the less attention is paid to them by anyone. 4 months ago even stronger NATO countries could have been concerned with the might of the Russian army - today, I doubt if even San Marino is very much afraid. :)

In any case, Russia should elect shrines to Allmighty Nukes and start worshipping them, because they are the only reason Russia still exists. Imagine that all nukes disappear and can't be brought back - how long would Russia last? Yeah... exactly.

In any case, what happened to Russia and Russian army should serve as a warning what lack of discipline and morals, huge scale-theft, corruption and alcohol can do to a country. Nobody did it to them, they did it to themselves.


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