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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



Cojestdocholery
3 Jul 2022  #6181

land gains as "winning".

The ball is in play and it doesn't look like Russia is winning. What will happen, which side going to win or loose we will see when and only when it happens. So far there is a fog of war. Propaganda on both sides and stupid jurnalists looking for sensations.

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6182

All the Russian trolls and people like Novi look at land gains as "winning"

...and what's on it.

Your equations are child's play and make zero sense...

My Z-P is a Nobel Prize grade achievement. It would save thousands of lives and billions in property damage if heeded. Instead, the Western warmongers are doing their best to keep this hell going and going and going while fully aware of the outcome. That is evil, immoral, and barbaric.

You and other PF keyboard warriors are just a notch below.

It isn't.

Russia is winning because Ukraine is not.

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6183

What will happen, which side going to win or loose we will see when and only when it happens

General Dannat wrote about this today, about r*ssia's exhausted troops. They haven't a chance of getting beyond Donbas. He was also very clear that despite the long hard slog, r*ssia aren't winning and Ukraine aren't losing.

I prefer the opinion of the former head of the army to that of some mentally ill internet troll.

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6184

youtu.be/W_54M0muoJU

He was also very clear that despite the long hard slog, r*ssia aren't winning.

Tell him that he is a moron and that his English sucks.
Russia is winning because Ukraine is not.

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6185

Tell him

You don't need to reply pointlessly to every post.

winning

As you were told, they aren't.

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6186

As you were told, they aren't.

As you were told, they are because Ukraine is not.

PolAmKrakow
3 Jul 2022  #6187

Meanwhile in the real world and the real war, Russian military repair companies have not been paid for repairs made to Russian equipment that was salvageable so they have stopped repairing equipment damaged in Ukraine. More of that equipment like tanks and personnel carriers is being dismantled and sold for scrap by Russian military units to buy food and booze. That's winning baby!

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6188

equipment like tanks and personnel carriers is being dismantled and sold for scrap by Russian military units to buy food and booze.

Apparently apparently their vehicles have been setting off with bits missing and no spare parts because they've been sold for cash or repairs were never done. Some of the officers who were responsible for maintenance have been jailed however nobody knows the extent of the damage.

they are

They aren't.

Crnogorac3
3 Jul 2022  #6189

Belogorovka liberated

youtu.be/ao7BpG2NhUI

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6190

They aren't.

Russia is winning because Ukraine is losing.
Did you see that video in the post above? It sure looks like it's the Russian flag being raised, but I could be wrong...

Just to be sure, I went to google maps and, guess what...That place is in Ukraine. Duh!

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6191

No, they aren't losing.

Did you read General Dannat today?

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6192

No, they aren't losing.

In war, dear child, there is no such thing as not losing. Either you are winning or losing - from the first square mile taken by side A or side B.

Russia owns X square miles and what's on them that used to belong to Ukraine. Ukraine owns 0 square miles that used to belong to Russia.

X>0. Therefore, dear child, Russia is winning and Ukraine is losing what Russia is winning.
Cookies are in the back.

cms neuf
3 Jul 2022  #6193

What Russia has lost

- a trashed economy thar will take a decade to recover
- permament loss of raw material markets as people find alternative suppliers and invent different ways of doing things
- 50 percent of their tax revenues, meaning more cold nights for you
- respect for their military prowess
- client governments in Central Asia want out, a gaping hole to be filled by China
- access to western technology
- a final loss of influence in Eastern Europe (except Serbia who seem willing to follow their brate into the dustbin of history)
- a load of yachts, football teams and other vulgar gewgaws
- McDonalds

Enjoy your sprats and powering your "lexus" with corn oil

PolAmKrakow
3 Jul 2022  #6194

Russia owns X square miles what's on them that used to belong to Ukraine. Ukraine owns 0 square miles that used to belong to Russia.

Russia has 38,000 soldiers that used to be living and belonged in Russia. Ukraine has less than 20,000 dead soldiers that died protecting their country Ukraine.

20,000<38,000 therefor Russia is losing and Ukraine is winning.

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6195

What Russia has lost...

...counts only if what it lost is Ukraine's gain. This is a war, not a race. Duh!
Losing McD is a gain, btw. Fewer fat people.
We, the US, have access to eastern technology and are supremely fu*cked. Do you know why car dealers' in the US have empty lots, genius? It's because 99% of chips are made in Taiwan. Russia will have to make its own and will be a net winner because of it.

20,000<38,000 therefor Russia is losing and Ukraine is winning.

If that's your criterium, adjust for pop, and, guess what, Russia is winning!
Also, don't forget to adjust for the source - the fact that you skillfully omitted.

cms neuf
3 Jul 2022  #6196

Russia is making its own LOL - state of the art Moskvitches are now rolling off the production limes of an old Renault plant

Trabant jokes from the 90s are going to get a new lease of life in the queue for sugar this winter as Russian losers try black humor to make life bearable for a few seconds.

gregy741
3 Jul 2022  #6197

those guys plus yatseniuk are the criminals who destroyed ukraine. non of them is ethnic ukrainian. just saying
twitter.com/Synyos4002/status/1543527021850099714

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6198

Russia is making its own LOL

Make a list of the fastest planes and you will be unpleasantly surprised. No, they are not Polish or American. They are Russian.
And don't forget who gives whom a ride to that international space station up there...hahahahahahaha...Bottom of the list "barbarians" acting as Uber for Number One. You can't make this sh*it up it's so funny!

PolAmKrakow
3 Jul 2022  #6199

@Novichok
Me. I am the source of the equation, like your equations. Do your own research. Russia is losing, it is the country of all time losers.

Clearly some people dont like to really educate themselves about business and how it effects lives directly. McD's is a huge loss, and the Russian version will begin closing locations in another 30 days, you simply can not fake it till you make it in food.

As for chips, apparently no one is aware of the US legislation called the CHIPS act that congress is dragging its feet on funding. Will completely revamp and make the US self sufficient in the semiconductor industry. But if you have no clue about the big picture you wouldn't be aware. And of course while Russia will try to develop their own, they do not have the infrastructure in technology to actually do it. Again, not something a feeble minded person would be aware of or understand how semiconductors are developed.

But of course Russia will copy the ones they steal, and those copies will be years behind the ones the west has, just like they stole technology in the cold war. Russia lost that war too.

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6200

Me. I am the source of the equation,

When did the Russians let you in to count the bodies? Or did you count only when you visited the U part?

they do not have the infrastructure in technology to actually do it.

Russia didn't have the tech to develop A and H bombs, either, but still managed to win the race with that 50-megaton monstrosity. Or was it 100?

Nikita must be smiling...

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6201

Russia is losing more then gaining

Yes, and they have much more to lose still.

Their war chest is finite, their arms are depleted and they can't get people to fight for them.

And they're having a protracted guerrilla war.

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6202

It is known as Tsar Bomba, btw.

Russia is losing more then gaining

That's their business to figure out if it's worth it. Just as it is Z's business to see if his gains are worth the losses.

R vs U is not even close. Well, actually, it's the EU, the US, and U vs Russia. Not bad for Russia.

PolAmKrakow
3 Jul 2022  #6203

@Novichok
Russia doesn't have to let me in because most of the dead Russians are rotting in Ukraine. Easy to count the number of body bags donated to the enemy. You start at 1+1=2 then 2+1=3 and so on. I know its a hard concept for you and others to grasp. Math can be challenging for those that are challenged already.

The size of a bomb is now an accomplishment? Funny how every "accomplishment" is in the distant past.

Who developed Space X? Russia couldn't dream that big. As for getting to the space station, who decided to retire the space shuttle because of an agreement with Russia. US can easily return to transporting to the space station. Funny too how the uneducated fail to know that Space X has been transporting cargo to the station for the last ten years, and has been taking people there for the last two years. Amazing what happens when you actually know what is going on in the world and do not live in the past.

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6204

Who developed Space X? Russia couldn't dream that big.

But did about some hypersonic gizmos that can go from A to B very quickly.

I am not claiming that the US is behind but I would appreciate if the PF Russia haters toned down with Mongols and barbarians if no other reason than they sound like desperate morons right now. The same with frying orcs and sh*it like this.

As the leader of the pack, you could tell them to chill so that we can elevate this thread to the level where Bobko and Velund operate.

BTW, when did you do all that counting or did you rely on Zinfo?

GefreiterKania
3 Jul 2022  #6205

I would appreciate if the PF Russia haters toned down with Mongols and barbarians

Yes, I asked for the same thing yesterday but my request wasn't met with much enthusiasm.

elevate this thread to the level where Bobko and Velund operate

Bobi's all right. As for Veli, he operates mainly on the dont-come-crying-when-we-nuke-your-neo-shlachta-asses level, but he has his charm too :D

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6206

Yes, I asked for the same thing yesterday

That makes four of us. With PAK's help, a miracle is underway...

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6207

of the dead Russians are rotting in Ukraine.

The more the better.

They should have stayed in their own land.

The size of a bomb is now an accomplishment?

It sums then up really and exemplifies the attitude behind their current war.

They contribute only negativity and darkness to the world.

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6208

The more the better.

Not a very nice thing to say, joun. Did you know that those men were drafted and have families? And that body count counts only where each dead body causes a total nervous breakdown or at least temporary hysterics and that Russia is not one of those places?

See, joun, we can tolerate 50 million dead babies. They can tolerate 50 thousand dead soldiers. Simple.

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6209

Tough.

Every orc that's incinerated is an orc that can't kill people which of course is what they were sent there to do.

The more misery it causes r*ssian families, the better.

Don't pretend to get moralistic, troll. This is a matter of life and death for Ukrainians. There's no time to be sentimental about the scum in uniform who crossed their border.

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6210

Russian and allied forces (VSRF, Rosgvardiya, FSB, PMC Wagner, DPR & LPR)

16,000 killed 24 February - 15 June 2022 US estimate
20,000 killed 24 February - 15 June 2022 UK estimate
35,750 losses 24 February - 1 July 2022 Ukrainian government


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