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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



GefreiterKania
2 Jul 2022  #6151

if the Wagners had not defeated the NATO forces in Popasna

What NATO forces? Even if you believe Kadyrov's fairy tales about the presence of "NATO instructors" there, the city was defended by Ukrainian forces only.

If Russian people are brave enough to rise against Putin they will have loads of support.

Definitely, and I hope it will happen. It would be much better for the free world to have democratic Russia on our side than to see it allied to or, even worse, vassalized by China.

...or banning ordinary people from competing in sports.

Russia is at the moment conducting an invasion of an independent country. You can hardly expect international sports federations to let Russian teams/sportsmen compete under their country's flag, as if nothing happened. Sports rivalry stems from ancient Olympic ideal of peace and even in antiquity all hostilities had to cease during the Games. Hence, if a country decides to conduct an aggressive invasion, it is banned from international sport competitions.

@jon357

You are smart enough to see that I don't oppose the content of the criticisim but merely its form. As for the verb "spout", you will have to forgive me - English is a foreign language to me and perhaps some subtleties of verb usage escape me.

Crnogorac3
2 Jul 2022  #6152

Leaving the city, Ukrainian militants blew up and destroyed some of the important administrative buildings, including the city hall.

As a resident of Lisichansk said, the Armed Forces of Ukraine "blew everything up, burned everything."

What retards...

This is proof that to the regime in Kiev it is very clear that they will never return it.

jon357
2 Jul 2022  #6153

As for the verb "spout",

No worries. It's a word often overused on the lower branches of the social and intellectual tree.

the content of the criticisim but merely its form

I don't mind either right now, the danger from r*ssia cannot be overstated, nor can it harm to underline their barbarism as a society. Were there not a near relentless onslaught of propaganda from orc supporters, fellow-travelers shills and paid trolls across the internet (including here) there would not be a need for it. While there is a need, may the invective be strong.

Most of us (i.e. the non-orc supporting posters) live in a country that borders r*ssia and which r*ssian politicians have talked about. Some of us have Ukrainian partners or family. Some of us have refugees in our homes). The anger is strong, the effect on our lives is palpable and the danger is huge. There's no harm in venting a little,

What retards...

Even if the string descriptions of r*ssian barbarism were to go, trash talk like this is likely to remain.

amiga500
2 Jul 2022  #6154

... and show the rejection of their methods by calling their country a sewage?

It serves a purpose, that is to elicit societal change, and at least they are not calling Poland B that now ;)

There's no harm in venting a little,

Indeed, it's an anon free speech forum.

Crnogorac3
3 Jul 2022  #6155

youtu.be/rOYYWiM-MSg
More of the grateful people welcoming the allied troops to Lisichansk.

😍

youtu.be/zYuxFqHsn2I

VICTORIOUS FLAG IN LISICHANSK

This is the strongest hell march I've ever seen, I can't wait to see one like this in liberated Odessa...

youtu.be/DUy72ZZx7lI

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6156

While we are waiting for the list...Quoting RT.com:

Ukraine reiterates threat against Crimean Bridge
The attack will take place "at the right moment," Zelensky's top aide says


How do you spell "goodbye, Kyiv" in Ukrainian?

Memo to the Polish PF children: Watch this video. Listen to the man and stop that brave crap talk about how Russia is losing.

BTW, Americans have already had it and rate baby formula 5 times more important than your stupid war.

youtu.be/W_54M0muoJU

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6157

Sanctioning the sanctioners...Quoting:

President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree to transfer the rights of the giant Sakhalin-2 oil and liquefied natural gas project to a new Russian company. The move comes in response to actions from "unfriendly states" and could force out foreign stakeholders, including British and Japanese investors.

That wasn't so hard to predict, was it? According to that video above, Russia is drowning...in money...hahahahahaha...What a way to die...

mafketis
3 Jul 2022  #6158

Russia's war against Ukraine is going so well and they have so much manpower.... they're recruiting in prisons.

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1543441292457156611

Toilet of a country.

PolAmKrakow
3 Jul 2022  #6159

Funny how even when the Russia stock market has negative news on one of its most important stocks that trolls and POS are trying to frame it as if nothing is happening. Blind to the obvious. The level of sheer stupidity here is almost limitless.

Meanwhile Belarus now make false flag claims so it can potentially enter the war and help Russia out because Russia can not get it done. If this happens we may see a real WW3. Two dictators need to be shot and then the world can move on.

mafketis
3 Jul 2022  #6160

Russia uses crisis actors in their fake and ghey propaganda...

twitter.com/KremlinTrolls/status/1543376148775768064

were two of them also used in Mariupol?

twitter.com/KremlinTrolls/status/1543385644319363073

gregy741
3 Jul 2022  #6161

Russia uses crisis actors in their fake and ghey propaganda...

do you actually read link you post?
this guy claim, its fake welcoming,cus streets are too clean to be in lysychansk. and then someone geolocated it. and it turned out to be lysychansk.

and as always,turned out,you the fkin lot ,are the ones who lies and manipulate

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6162

trolls and POS are trying to frame it as if nothing is happening. Blind to the obvious

Of course. It doesn't suit their narrative.

And meanwhile, the first batch of troops from the Ukrainian army are training in advanced artillery techniques on Salisbury Plain with the best of the best.

Russia uses crisis actors

They bus people in. And they do have the same faces cropping up in interviews.

Do you remember that film supposedly showing r*ssians dressed up as Ukrainian soldiers allegedly mistreating r*ssian POWs? Some of the, had the flag on upside down.

Crnogorac3
3 Jul 2022  #6163

youtu.be/R2QpdEVSm0s

Russia 'Rounding Up' Ukraine Troops in Donbass as UK Media for First Time Criticises Ukraine Tactics

Cojestdocholery
3 Jul 2022  #6164

Russia

Where you dig out all those perverts!

amiga500
3 Jul 2022  #6165

HAHAA Germany sh**ting their pants if Ukraine joins EU, as it would take their kingmaker status away. A very good thing in my book. Bring it on. No more pretentious lectures and literal blackmail from brussels!

Under the bloc's current voting system, which takes into account the number of countries voting and their population, Kyiv would have nine per cent of the EU's total powers.

Combining these powers with close ally Poland would make the pair more powerful than Germany, the EU's largest and richest state. Bringing in other Central and Eastern European allies would comfortably create a majority within the bloc more powerful than the traditional Franco-German power-base.

telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/07/02/why-germany-secretly-fears-losing-power-when-ukraine-joins-eu/

Alien
3 Jul 2022  #6166

Ukraine must win or at least stay alive to join EU.
Turkey has been waiting 23 years and still isn't in. This may take a long time.

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6167

Where you dig out

YouTube, evidently.

Full of orc lies.

HAHAA Germany sh**ting their pants if Ukraine

Excellent. Ukraine should join a new bloc with Poland, the UK, Turkiyë and the good bits of Africa. Norway and Japan might be up for it too.

Crnogorac3
3 Jul 2022  #6168

🇷🇺🇺🇦 "We were waiting for you": the people of Lisichansk rejoice and cry after the city is Liberated

t.me/intelslava/32419

They know that Lisichansk will never be Ukraine again, so they are not afraid to be in front of the cameras in such an honest and emotional way. No one will try them for treason, or of the type.

Some Russian soldier will find happiness in Lisichansk and marry this first beautiful Russian woman. Good luck to them.

youtu.be/x9EfVpiPUF0

Moj Ivane, pobratime mio
jesi l' skoro na Donbasu bio
je l' donbasko polje uzorano
je l' na njemu žito posijano


Ivan shall return with a thousand men
songs will be sung of our people of Lisichansk
The meadows & grass shall be mowed by Ivan
He will marry the ruddy & blonde girl


PolAmKrakow
3 Jul 2022  #6169

@Alien
Turkey has its own issues. It will probably take Ukraine just as long considering rebuilding time.

@amiga500
Interesting take on things for sure. Germany and France both still have collective psychological issues as it relates to leadership and control.

Crnogorac3
3 Jul 2022  #6170

The people enthusiastically welcome their liberators

Lisichansk residents 🇷🇺

twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1543283522231848962

Oh beautiful, oh dear, oh sweet freedom!

It's wonderful to see liberated Lisichansk!

But my heart will not dance until freedom breaks over Slavyansk, the suffering Slavyansk, that is degraded, occupied.

Slavyansk is like Deir ez-Zor once, there is no more a miserable place. And Odessa, like Aleppo, it will be a victory, a nail in the coffin of the wannabe pederonazis.

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6171

Of course. It doesn't suit their narrative.

There is only one narrative: Russia is winning.
You and other Russia haters here can throw your insults around all you want but the fact is - pay attention, joun - that Russia is winning and that Americans don't give a fu*ck. We have bigger problems than Russia protecting Russians.

BTW, nothing stops the armies of Poland, Germany, and the Baltics from going to Ukraine and beating the crap out of the "barbarians". So what's up with that indifference...Too shy?

Germany and France both still have collective psychological issues as it relates to leadership and control.

Good diagnosis, Doctor. In the meantime, Russia is winning and you, PF heroes, are banging away on your keyboards. Odessa needs you!

PolAmKrakow
3 Jul 2022  #6172

@Novichok
Russia is losing the big war in the world. Losers repeat losing continuously in the case of Russians. My diagnosis for you is terminal stupidity.

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6173

My diagnosis for you is terminal stupidity.

Mine is that Russia is winning.

Russia is losing the big war in the world.

The "world" has a short memory. For now, Russia is winning.

PolAmKrakow
3 Jul 2022  #6174

@Novichok
The world will not have a short memory for this. EU will never go back to Russian energy dependence, and NATO is forever larger and stronger. Sanctions will not be lifted until Ukraine is rebuilt, and regular Russian people will have very limited travel options for the next decade or more. When the Russian stock markets and currency markets open again for foreign traders, the ruble will plummet to all time lows. If anyone did any looking to find how many sell orders are pending from outside Russia on the Russian stocks, they would see about 90% of the foreign money is waiting to come out.

The US market crash triggering the Great Depression will look like a blip on the financial radar compared to Russia's collapse to come. 1992 will look like the good old days for average Russians who's lifestyle will revert to that of the 1950's. Cuba and their car maintenance programs for old US cars will become a role model for Russians looking to keep their foreign cars moving.

Russia is a disaster. It repeats disasters. It is a country of losers and only losers support it. Losing is a habit, just like real winning is a habit. Russia hasn't won anything since 1918, and then they screwed that up too.

But yes. Russia is winning by way of dead and wounded soldier body count. They are way ahead of everyone. Five times more Russians dead that US killed in 20 years of war in the Middle East. Thats the great Russia. Fing joke of a country and military.

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6175

Russia is losing the big war in the world

Indeed, and many of their claims are outright lies.

Som3 good news; Belgorod was shelled in the night by Ukraine. Unfortunately only 3 confirmed dead however plenty of damage has been done.

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6176

Indeed, and many of their claims are outright lies.

Except that Russia is winning.

Kashub1410
3 Jul 2022  #6177

@Novichok
Congratulations! For short-termed "winning"!

Feeling better? Hollow victories are what they are... = hollow. Russia is losing more then gaining. Pure stupidity

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6178

Five times more Russians dead that US killed in 20 years of war in the Middle East.

Let me explain. The US lost X dead, Y wounded, Z dollars in I and A, and got 0 (aka sh*it) in return - not counting the unpayable forever debt.

Russia will lose A dead, B wounded, and C rubles in U, and in return will get and keep forever at least 0,25U or more.

So who is terminally stupid?

PolAmKrakow
3 Jul 2022  #6179

All the Russian trolls and people like Novi look at land gains as "winning". Funny, how every war that's been won has not been "won" until the leader was dead or the government was destroyed. Neither has happened or is happening in Ukraine. In fact Ukraine is getting stronger by the day. Now when Putin is dead, and Russia ends the war, who wins?

But Russia and Putin need some kind of victory so badly they will call victories before they happen. These people are pathetic chronic losers who can get nothing right in more than 100 years. It is no wonder other losers rally to protect them.

@Novichok
Your equations are child's play and make zero sense because they are not based on truths. Reading your drivel is like reading some hippie wannbe philosopher trying to write about the existential threats posed by the Dali Lama to the security of Uzbekistan. Fing retarded.

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6180

Except that r*ssia is winning

It isn't.

This war has barely started.


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