Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

Yesterday in Qatar a meeting of representatives of Ukraine and the Free Syrian Army took place.
twitter.com/Hawkeye1745/status/1543279469657473026
this kiev junta is unbelievable. looking for jihadi volunteers to hire
its well know, idlib jihadis turned into some mercenary hotspot . used by turkey in libia before.


am not fan of such scenario. thats why i am telling you here,stop barking from behind american back.Poland has nothing to gain by steering s.hit in east Europe.

Poland could be Singapore, with such great location.cheap energy and resources from the east and technology from the west.instead,you chose to be US cheap prostitute.doing dirty bidding for few Abrams tanks and tap on the shoulder.

And their citizens live a comfortable life. E,g, the Dutch.


Of course. Here is a little scenario for Imperial Russia:
- the West doesn`t lift the sanctions, Russian society becomes more and more impoverished. Russian military suffers heavy losses in Ukraine. The discontent in Russian Federation grows steadily.

- Russians rebel against the cruel regime.
- After removing their pro Russian leaders, local populations declare independent states. E,.g, in Chechnya.
- Satellite states like Belarus throw off the Russian yoke and choose pro European attitude.
- A dozen or more states arise on the ruins of Imperial RuSSian Federation.
- Taking advantage of the situation, China decides to capture Siberia regions. Russians are too weak to prevent it. They turn to the West for help.

- Russia, no longer imperial, becomes an ally of the West, attempting to regain the regions lost to China.

Thanks for your explanation of why the globalist scum is drooling...


Well said.

Yes, that`s what RuSSists were trying to do in Syria.


Fekk your resources. What we want is life in Europe without RuSSist barbarians bothering us or our neighbours. Let Mongols stay in Asia where they belong.


Any weapons which might help us repel RuSSist barbarians can`t be dirty, darling. They are Holy, remember, like Excalibur.

Quoting:

The German government was outraged by the Lithuanian authorities' ban on transportation to Kaliningrad and insists on its cancellation, according to the German Der Spiegel, citing its own information. According to the publication, the blockade of transportation may soon be lifted at the request of the German side.

BB, I am proud of your country. Again.

youtu.be/fAjobwvchRg

So were the r*ssians.

Is it 35,000 dead now?


It really couldn't. Singapore can barely manage being Singapore.

Poland has highly developed countries in three sides, one of which has a booming financial centre and on the other side of Belarus.

This is not true.

Gazprom loses 30% of its value
Details: Shares of majority state-owned Russian oil and gas giant Gazprom, which is the country's largest public company, tanked in trading on Thursday after the company declined to pay out dividends for the first time since 1998 in a sign of the widening impact of sanctions on the Russian economy.

Shares of Gazprom fell 29.8% to 208.9 rubles ($3.82) on Thursday, and the Moscow stock exchange briefly halted trading of the stock.
The drop sent the company's market capitalization tumbling to 7.046 trillion rubles ($129 billion), though the company is still the largest in Russia by market cap.

- Forbes

msn.com/en-US/news/news/shares-of-russia-s-largest-public-company-gazprom-tank-30/ar-AAZ2IT5?ocid=FinanceShimLayer

and you think appeasing Russia is the way to prevent it?


russians have the caca touch, everything they're involved in turns into sh}t

Primitive loser culture that sane nations (like Ukraine) run away from...

Don't mix speculative share market price and real value. Gazprom have the same production capabilities and gas reserves as before. And it is not so bad to produce less today and left more to tomorrow, when more demand from customers with non-toxic money will be observed.

I know people who get rid of US shares and actively buy Russian ones on the dip.

Very good news. Poverty is spreading gradually in Russia.
Hey, Russians, how long are you going to put up with the regime which is blowing your money into thin air?


In the mental institution? ::):):)

You can't possibly really believe that... really mean that. WTF, Maf? Why the constant contempt and hatred? What's the point? What do you want to accomplish by that?

Genuine questions.

In mental institution, there is another trend - investing in UAH. ;)

The point is obvious - to show RuSSists that decent people reject their methods. RuSSists either change or will remain barbarians to us. Maf is doing a great job. Simple.

And this has been the same for centuries. It's a clear course of action and as many commentators have said, Putler's illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine is literally their last chance to halt their steady and rapid decline.

And it hasn't worked.

... and show the rejection of their methods by calling their country a sewage? What kind of reaction do you think this will cause?


Do you think they care?

But, hey - maybe if we call them primitive Mongol barbarianSS for the umpteenth time and their country (that they love, sometimes blindly) a filthy raw sewage, this will make them reflect upon their conduct and change their ways? Yeah, surely that's exactly what will happen!

It is though.

A foul primitive sewer.

Not that everyone there has ready access to a sewerage system though. A surprisingly large percentage of homes don't have their own flush toilet

Yet they can pay for nukes, a space programme and mansions for billionaire oligarchs.

And pay billions to wage a brutal war


Why not, since the propaganda they're churning out here is relentless.

Without an opposing voice there's just the r*ssian propaganda.

If they are reasonable, they will think what to do to change it. If they are barbarians as we believe they are, they wiil do nothing, remaining the barbarians we view them as. And in this way, he have the right to call them so. Isn`t it simple??


Yes, they do coz they suffer from incredible inferiority complex towards the West. And they would like to be considered civilised East. However, their actions prevent it. And we, decent Europeans, have to make them realise it.

Kania, we stopped critisizing you for your dirty fraternisation with RuSSists. Pat them on their shoulders and offer them your shoulder to be patted on within your pathetic band of brothers, but leave Maf and other similar posters alone. It is none of your business how decent people call RuSSists.,

Besides, the reaction of our forum RuSSists to such an attitude clearly shows they care. Ha!

I used to think Russia was an outlier on the European continuum.... but _every_ single thing I've learned about the country in the last few months has convinced me that is nothing close to the case.... it's a brutal, primitive culture that at present deserves nothing but scorn.

Ukraine (thanks to Russian contamination) is kind of an outlier but salvageable....

Russia is not. It can't even manage a peaceful transfer of power.... what kind of third world craphole doesn't allow rulers any kind of post-government existence? In the 21st cnetury they still ahve effin' TSARS (in reality if not name) and the Russian people are helpless to influence (let alone change) government actions no matter how brutal....

A few sources from twitter (leaving out some.... and leaving out a bunch of others)

twitter.com/igorsushko

twitter.com/generalsvr_en

twitter.com/kamilkazani

twitter.com/putinhasnopenis

twitter.com/InsiderEng

twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews

Please scour those sights and find information that is _not_ worthy of contempt and hatred.... Especially since Russians are socialized to think of themselves as superior to everyone else....

You don't cure an alcoholic but feeding them beers ("but not all Russians..." "but what about the CULTURE???...") but by confronting them with the ugly truth - they're sick and need treatment.

What parts of Russian social or political culture do you find value in?

I like your very special kind of sarcasm. Please don't give up. This forum desperately needs more adults.


Nothing. Just another case of a childish temper tantrum...
At least they gave up claiming that the world is closer to WW3 than ever before because Putin is a mean "dictator".


What the hell does THAT have anything to do with the fact that people are dying because of the snake?

If NATO stayed where it was when the USSR fell apart, we wouldn't be discussing this subject today.

The same can be said of Russia.
Why did they think it was a sensible idea to.kill innocent civilians to achieve their idiotic ambitions?

Russia did not expand. NATO did.

So what?
Why is Russia so worried about a defensive force that will never attack it?
I will tell you why.
Because Russia always had ambitions to retake what it regards as it's terrirory.
All these nations joining NATO has killed that option.
Now they can only attack non NATO nations.
Russia is £ucked!

Nonsense. It is certainly poorer (on average) than EU countries, and perhaps living conditions of a lot of people are much worse in comparison, but still it doesn't justify the kind of contempt for the country as a whole that we are sometimes seeing here.


It is quite possible to oppose pro-Russian propaganda (e.g. like I did earlier today with gregy's nonsense about "thousands" of Poles marching to support Russia) without spouting insults and inciting hatred.


*sighs*

@Maf

Yes, I agree with you about the war (although there is more to this war than meets the eye), the political culture in Russia and about certain social deficiencies that prevent Russian society from standing up to their masters who use them and will ultimately bring them misery and downfall, but some of your posts would seem to seethe with hatred towards the country and people in general; "to love Russia is to love raw sewage" doesn't sound like criticism of certain aspects of Russian political culture and social system, it sounds like pure hatred. And the reaction that it will beget will be one of hatred too. A vicious circle.

Anyway, guys, you're all adults - follow your hearts and conscience...

Lisichansk liberated. Uraaaaaaa.

Congratulations to the Chechens, however none of this would have been possible if the Wagners had not defeated the NATO forces in Popasna at the end of April and the beginning of May. That was the key to everything. Glory to the heroes!

@GefreiterKania

I get what you say, but Russian people need to grow some and fast.
This has gone on for far too long.
If Russian people are brave enough to rise against Putin they will have loads of support.I don't know if that is enough, but it is a starting point.

...or banning ordinary people from competing in sports. It does not get any more idiotic and petty.


I always wanted one of those or PPSh.

Far from nonsense. It has a huge wealth gap, rampant prostitution and human trafficking, endemic alcohol and opiates abuse, pervasive and ever-present corruption and conducts illegal and brutal invasions of nearby countries and chemical weapons attacks further away. Oh, and organ theft, the gulag system (still) and a falling life expectancy.

It is a sewer.


Nothing wrong with either of those, however I notice that you somewhat oddly use the word "spouting" for some reason. I do not think that any of the people opposed to r*ssia's war crimes are "spouting" anything at all. Do you? And it is appropriate to point out r*ssia's primitive barbarism and backwardness when they are a clear and present danger to western democratic and humanistic values.

Everything that has been created in western and Central Europe over centuries of trial and error: they want to destroy it.