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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



Paulina
2 Jul 2022  #6091

Instead we are fighting our own people in the East, that did nothing wrong to us. While we fight with our kin

"Assh0les in Lviv" didn't tell you to fight and kill "your kin". Putin and Russian state TV did.

. There is a special place in hell for people that spread poison between brothers.

Indeed. Hell is where Putin and his propagandists will end up.

all their lies, but it is my sincere hope that one day they will be exposed for what they are.

This is about Russians.

Bobko
2 Jul 2022  #6092

@Paulina

One day, INSHALLAH, our arm will finally reach these Kafirs and the thrashing will be a biblical one.

Again, no Polish "thank you" necessary. We enjoy this work.

Novichok
2 Jul 2022  #6093

Good news from Ukraine...Quoting dailymail.com:

Two more Britons captured in Ukraine 'face the death penalty': Aid worker, 22, and military volunteer will stand trial for 'mercenary activities' after being arrested by pro-Russian rebels - as Foreign Office condemns 'exploitation

As a favor to the future "freedom fighters" and their "loved ones", their executions should be televised.

GeferiterKania
2 Jul 2022  #6094

One day, INSHALLAH, our arm will finally reach these Kafirs

Unless Allah, subhanahu wa ta-ala, decides otherwise.

the thrashing will be a biblical one

You surely meant a quranic one? Anyway, I thought you were an atheist but, subhanallah, I see that I was wrong. :)

Cojestdocholery
2 Jul 2022  #6095

I see their point.

I don't! Frankly I don't like it.

Lithuanian anti-polonism was built on a similar premise

Was bulid on stupidity of Samogitians

jon357
2 Jul 2022  #6096

What has Russia ever done for Ukraine that Ukrainians should like them?

Shown them that their army is better than r*ssia's and that the world is on their side.

Dying Putler has failed in everything in this way except destroying r*ssia for the foreseeable future and uniting the world against the orcs.

You don't know that

Pipe down, troll.

Bobko
2 Jul 2022  #6097

thought you were an atheist but, subhanallah, I see that I was wrong

Talking about Western Ukraine always wakes the righteous mujahideen in me.

Khalas brother... Yalla, let's go smash some Banderists together.

Paulina
2 Jul 2022  #6098

One day, INSHALLAH, our arm will finally reach these Kafirs and the thrashing will be a biblical one.

Ah, but you don't mind walking over the bodies of "your kin" first. Anything is justified in the name of the "faith". Truly a real fanatic you are.

We enjoy this work.

I'm sure you do, sicko.

Yalla, let's go smash some Banderists together.

Yes, GF, show us your true colours. 🙄

mafketis
2 Jul 2022  #6099

I don't! Frankly I don't like it.

You're skin is too thin.... in a way it's a compliment, it's recognition that Polish culture is more attractive than Russian culture. I remember back in the 1990s people felt more threatened by Germany than Russia, partly because Germany had a far more attractive socio-economic system. Same idea.

Western Ukrainians

According to Galeev, one of the shocks for Russians in the war has been that the west is not really the capital of Ukrainian nationalism which has moved to the east, especially Kharkiv... Russian activity in Donbas turned a traditionally Russian speaking city very much against Russia.

Novichok
2 Jul 2022  #6100

Pipe down, troll.

Hey, I am just asking a question on the subject YOU raised.
So, can you name one who has a dedication to the truth or not?

Bobko
2 Jul 2022  #6101

Ah, but you don't mind walking over the bodies of "your kin" first.

They were told many times to put their weapons down and go home. Trying to kill as few of them as possible - absolutely fcuked our first few months of the war.

We have now, the situation that we have. You have to work with the cards you are dealt.

Cojestdocholery
2 Jul 2022  #6102

n a way it's a compliment, it's recognition that Polish culture is more attractive than Russian culture.

I understand your argument I just don't get it, don't feel it and I'm not sure that it is a compliment. It a guess that is what they mean.

According to Galeev,

I would say that I have been thinking along the line of Bobko reasoning. It is not true howvere. There is a Ukrainian self-awerness, national awerness in the center and in the east as well. Russian put too much value into them speaking Russian. I mean you can speak English and it doesn't makes you English.

They speak Russian but are Ukrianians, hell even ZeƂenski comes from Russian speaking family and his Ukrianian at school wasn't the best.

the Lithuanian elite had a long history of self-polonization

Not really, they are like Scots speaking English, only partitions and then 19th century nationlism and Soviet Russia in the background made many to choose Poland over Samogaotian idiots.

Novichok
2 Jul 2022  #6103

Trying to kill as few of them as possible - absolutely fcuked our first few months of the war.

Putin ignored "if you plan to inflict pain do it quickly and with all the brutality you can" line. Like Germany in September 1939, saving many Polish lives.

Slow and easy is for wedding nights, not armies.

GefreiterKania
2 Jul 2022  #6104

Samogitians

Point for Cojest for using proper terminology! It also annoys me to no end when our dear brothers Litwini are confused with vicious and vindictive ƻmudzini.

Khalas brother... Yalla, let's go smash some Banderists together.

Well, as Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam), once said to Abu Hurayra (radi allahu anhu): "remember Abu, never underestimate people from Lechistan - when pissed off one time too many, they are more dangerous than a hungry lion kicked in the balls".

The question is... when will be this one time too many. ;)

Trying to kill as few of them as possible

Yes, Islamic jokes aside, now that you mention it - I noticed this too. In Severodonetsk your army refrained from attacking/pursuing retreating Ukrainian soldiers. Why? It is during retreat when the heaviest casualties can be inflicted on enemy. Why on earth didn't you do it? It's almost as if Russian forces didn't want to inflict too heavy casualties on withdrawing Ukrainian forces. Mind boggling.

Paulina
2 Jul 2022  #6105

They were told many times to put their weapons down and go home.

So, if they don't want to put their weapons down, despite being told to do so repeatedly, that means that "your kin" wants to fight you... And if they want to fight you, that means they don't want you on their land... So why your army is in Ukraine again??

We have now, the situation that we have. You have to work with the cards you are dealt.

Yes, you could simply pull out of Ukraine, since you're not wanted there and stop killing your "kin". So why don't you stop killing them??

Cojestdocholery
2 Jul 2022  #6106

The question is... when will be this one time too many. ;)

We kicked them well and good about 15 times and they did it to us like 4 times. The difference is we never wanted to take over, enslave, dominate over Muscovites but when they win they are here like vultures picking bones clean and they stay for long uninvited with their imprialistic BS.

So the next time if there is the next time we need to finish them off for good, no more let them get off lighly.

It only embolds the fools!

Paulina
2 Jul 2022  #6107

They speak Russian but are Ukrianians, hell even ZeƂenski comes from Russian speaking family

Yes, Zelensky started to learn Ukrainian in 2017 and he still made some mistakes even as the president, I think.

Bratwurst Boy
2 Jul 2022  #6108

Reasons:

Wow....that's alot of hate....I'm abit speechless....

GefreiterKania
2 Jul 2022  #6109

the next time we need to finish them off for good

Any brilliant ideas what to do with their atomic weapons? Something tells me they won't give them up in exchange for security guarantees.

Paulina
2 Jul 2022  #6110

Wow....that's alot of hate....I'm abit speechless....

Bobko is repeating Russian propaganda. I can see that his brain, heart and soul has been completely eaten by it. Scary...

Cojestdocholery
2 Jul 2022  #6111

Bobko is repeating Russian propaganda.

You got it all wrong. He supports Russian aims and he uses any and all propaganda that may work in his favour. If he belives it, it is another question - who know- I think he doesn't!

He is one of those who think that either Russia remains an empire or there won't be Russia at all. He might be even right who know and who cares? After all the one thing is certain that the world without Russia would be a much better place alltogether.

GefreiterKania
2 Jul 2022  #6112

He is one of those who think that either Russia remains an empire or there won't be Russia at all.

Remember what PiƂsudski said about Poland? Poland either "będzie wielka albo nie będzie jej wcale", I think were the Good Marshall's words. We and Russians, apart from obvious differences, have more in common than most people realize or would like to admit.

After that one thing is certain the world without Russia would be a much better world alltogether.

Only if we took over. If China vassalizes them, we might not like it at all. :-/

Paulina
2 Jul 2022  #6113

@GefreiterKania, well, Poland isn't "big/great" and yet it exists and is doing well, so PiƂsudski was wrong. It turned out that many countries don't have to be empires anymore to exist and do great. I'm sure the same can be said about Russia.

Novichok
2 Jul 2022  #6114

It's almost as if Russian forces didn't want to inflict too heavy casualties on withdrawing Ukrainian forces.

That's what I have been saying. War or not, these are brothers and they know it.
Yet, some PF idiots still go with "barbarians" and "incompetent" at the same time and ignore that killing is easy. Living with it is not.

GefreiterKania
2 Jul 2022  #6115

@Novichok

Yes, this war is not what it seems to be at first, second or even at third glance.

All is well in the universe... or is it?

johnny reb
2 Jul 2022  #6116

From the Hill today: Ukraine prisoners of war detail torture and abuse

thehill.com/policy/international/3543197-inside-russias-war-camps-ukrainian-pows-detail-torture-abuse/

Paulina
2 Jul 2022  #6117

Yes, this war is not what it seems to be at first, second or even at third glance.

Meaning?

All is well in the universe... or is it?

No, all is not "well" in the universe. We have a war over our border, in Europe, in the 21st century and supposed "brothers" are killing each other.

mafketis
2 Jul 2022  #6118

Poland either "będzie wielka albo nie będzie jej wcale"

This type of thinking is directly from Great Powers politics of the 19th century. Russia, set 300 years back by the Mongols, have still not caught up with the rest of the world. They're no longer 300 years behind, just about 150... their reasoning makes some sense in terms of Great Powers politics but the world has moved on.

In the 21st century military force is almost quaint, US misadventures show how misguided and futile it can be. Iraq and Iran are like bookmarks of the end of military empire.

Soft power through culture and money and hard power (primarily economic) is the current game but Russia.... lags.

South Korea (tiny territory 50 or so million people) is a cultural superpower now, neighbor China (vast territory and population) is a cultural desert and has no soft power.

Russia has the raw materials to be an economic and cultural superpower but is still stuck trying to play 150 year old politics and still has a pseudo-Tsar political system... really? that's fr|cking embarrassing...

Meaning?

GK has been looking for reasons to support Russia for quite a while now.... the forum's Macron.

gregy741
2 Jul 2022  #6119

LISICHANSK has been liberated. wow. that was fast
twitter.com/Levi_godman/status/1543273731430051841

mafketis
2 Jul 2022  #6120

LISICHANSK has been liberate

you mean "turned into a pile of uninhabitable rubble"

will you be this enthusiastic if Russia goes for the Baltics or Poland?


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