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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



Miloslaw
3 Jul 2022  #6241

. UKR good - Russia bad

You said it mate!

The whole world hates Russia and Russians now and it didn't need to be this way.
Russian stupidity and a lack of understanding of the world outside of Russia has led us to this unfortunate place.
Recent Russian leadership is to blame.
The same thing is happening in China where millions of people are as brainwashed as Russians.
This needs to change before progress can be made.
Recent forecasts I have seen for the future of Russia and China shows a short and temporary increase in wealth and GDP, followed by a sudden and very steep decline.

Russia and China cannot survive without the support of the rest of the world.

But I am not sure that enough Russians or Chinese understand this yet.

GefreiterKania
3 Jul 2022  #6242

The German part of GK's name

"Austrian"!

Gefreiter Jan "Kania" Kaniowski, K.und K. infanterie, no? Eh... never mind...

Treat russia like a civilized country and it will behave like a civilized country

They are a civilised country; admittedly a different civilisation than ours but a civilisation nonetheless. But you know that. You are trying to make a point. I get it now. I don't agree with such approach, but I understand it.

I would advise you again not to succumb to hatred but you are all adults, so... each to his own.

Paulina
3 Jul 2022  #6243

It is such a pity that GefreiterKania isn't advising his "Bobi" and "Veli" against succumbing to hatred towards Ukrainians... Who knows, maybe they would listen to such a nice and non-hating Polish guy? lol 🤦

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6244

"If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth

Bullies always love to play the victim, just as r*ssia does when things don't go their way (and they aren't going their way) and r*SSist trolls are doing exactly that here as they are across the internet.

Straight out of Pighozin's playbook.

what they got - 7 mentally unstable pensioners in bad clothes. No food or drink offered and no guys are in sight

They probably paid the old bags in vodka.

They are a civilised country

They aren't. Haven't you noticed what they're doing in Ukraine? And did before in Chechnya and before that in Czechoslovakia and Hungary..

A country of rampant corruption, whole villages without a flush toilet, a declining life expectancy and with oligarchs and a space programme.

Wholesale looting of Ukrainian people's possessions? Murdering civilians whose hands are tied behind their backs? Raping children?

They're not civilised.

Miloslaw
3 Jul 2022  #6245

The economic forecasts predict that China will surpass America soon as the world's top economy, but that it will only last for a few years before America regains its top position.

Meanwhile, India will jump to become the worlds third greatest economy and Russia, after a short rise will sink and sink and sink.
Meantime the EU will stagnate but the Anglophone nations, America, Britain, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and many countries that use English as a second or unifying language will grow.

Simply because of their common language.

Do not have faith in Russia..... Russia is about to decline massively.

As for China, they still have some steam in them, but give it ten years and they will start to run out of puff too.....

pawian
3 Jul 2022  #6246

pity Kania isn't advising his "Bobi" and "Veli"

Well, they are band of brothers, sort of. They think of themselves as charming. :):):)

As for Veli, .... he has his charm too :D

Prince Charming. :):):)

GefreiterKania
3 Jul 2022  #6247

isn't advising his "Bobi" and "Veli" against succumbing to hatred towards Ukrainians

Oh, but I am! I also told them, among other things, that I hope Russia will lose this war.

Do I hate them? No. And I hope I never will.

Haven't you noticed what they're doing in Ukraine?

I have, and I criticised it vehemently on numerous occasions, on this very forum. But all this doesn't matter, because I refuse to hate two Russian guys that came here, to this little, insignificant niche board, to talk to us. Amasing, as Pawian says. :)

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6248

to hate two Russian guys that

You don't need to hate them or any individuals.

You did however day (and I was replying to the inaccurate statement:

They are a civilised country

tr*ssia isn't a civilised country

A country with a primitive and barbaric civilisation maybe...

pawian
3 Jul 2022  #6249

Amasing, as Pawian says. :)

As Veli`s and Bobby`s mate, you don`t have my permission to use my unique phrases.

I refuse to hate two Russian guys

Paulina already told you we don`t hate them. We just refuse to consider them mates like you do, for their sick imperial obsessions and enthusiastic acceptance of the death and destruction that RuSSists are causing in Ukraine.

GefreiterKania
3 Jul 2022  #6250

r*ssia isn't a civilised country

You mean that the way they conduct war is not civilised. Quite right. You also mentioned certain apparent downsides in their political and material culture. But all this doesn't mean Russia is not a civilised country. It's a different civilisation (a Turanian one, as professor Koneczny taught us), but still.

As Veli`s and Bobby`s mate you don't have my permission

I'm not their "mate" and I don't need your permission for anything.

we don`t hate them

:) some good news at last!

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6251

You mean that the way they conduct war is not civilised. Quite right. You

No.

My statement is clear. They are not a civilised country

But all this doesn't mean Russia is not a civilised country

It does.

To repeat, if you misunderstood it or found out ambiguous when I stated it clearly a few minutes ago, they are a country with a primitive and barbaric civilisation. They are not a civilised country.

GefreiterKania
3 Jul 2022  #6252

But I will admit that I had a Russian friend once... a certain Yuri from Klin... a great guy. Not sure what his stance on the war in Ukraine is, because I haven't talked to him in ages, but when I think that he could come to this forum one day and read about Russia being a "filthy sewage", inferior sh*thole and Russians (not Russian soldiers committing atrocities, but Russians in general) being Mongol barbarians, thieves, rapists etc. than it makes me so sad...

They are not a civilised country.

OK. Now I see that you really meant that they are not a civilised country in general. I disagree.

jon357
3 Jul 2022  #6253

I'm sure he'll learn to live with that inner sadness

r*ssia is not a civilised country. It is a barbaric country which brings more bad than good to the world.

Paulina
3 Jul 2022  #6254

Oh, but I am!

Where? When?

Do I hate them? No.

Do you really don't understand that it's not about you not hating them? You go much further than just not hating them. You're treating them as if they were your buddies. As if their views didn't bother you in the slightest. That's the way you behave and that's what makes me feel sick. Increasingly sick, because you just go further and further with this.

We just refuse to consider them mates like you do, for their sick imperial obsessions and enthusiastic acceptance of the death and destruction

Exactly.

GefreiterKania
3 Jul 2022  #6255

You're treating them as if they were your buddies.

Certainly not Veli! Although, I will repeat that with his relentless defence of an indefensible cause he indeed does have a certain charm (like Crow :)).

As for Bobko, what can I say - I like the guy. Sue me! :) I don't agree with his views on the war, but apart from that he's OK. What? He's a Russian imperialist? Boo-hoo! Well, I am a bit of a Polish imperialist, so that doesn't bother me that much. :)

Besides, why am I even talking to you? I forgot that I'm ignoring you.

Back to the subject of the thread please

Paulina
3 Jul 2022  #6256

@GefreiterKania, yeah, I thought that Crow had a certain charm too, until he started writing his pure evil comments about invasion of Ukraine...

Certainly not Veli!

Jesus, people are being killed over our border as we speak and you're being so unaffected and infantile...

He's a Russian imperialist? Boo-hoo! Well, I am a bit of a Polish imperialist, so that doesn't bother me that much. :)

Yes, I can see that... I wonder if it starts bothering you if Poland becomes a victim of that Russian imperialism... again.

GefreiterKania
3 Jul 2022  #6257

people are being killed over our border

Not by Velund! And in his rusty T-64 he won't be able to do much killing anyway. :)

you're being so unaffected and infantile

Yeah, I'm saving my affected and adult side for when it's really needed in Poland.

if Poland becomes a victim of that Russian imperialism

Not gonna happen. Wojsko Polskie will wipe the floor with them.

Paulina
3 Jul 2022  #6258

Not by Velund!

Jesus, it doesn't matter if he's doing it in person. He's supporting it! WTF is wrong with you?

Not gonna happen.

If it did, your "Bobi" and "Veli" would be cheering and clapping. Would that bother you then or not? lol

Yeah, I'm saving my affected and adult side for when it's really needed in Poland.

It's already needed.

GefreiterKania
3 Jul 2022  #6259

He's supporting it!

Indeed. That's why I don't agree with him on the matter (to say the least).

Would that bother you then or not?

If they invaded Poland? It would bother me enough to drive a bayonette through their ribs, but - and I would like to stress it firmly - I would do it without any pleasure or personal satisfaction. In case of Bobi even with certain sadness. I hope it will never come to that.

Novichok
3 Jul 2022  #6260

You wear the skin of an empathetic person, but in reality you are just a fearful Pole, spewing hate in order to act brave.

Bingo!!!!

Velund
3 Jul 2022  #6261

Jesus, people are being killed over our border

People been killed over your border since 2014, but where YOU were all this years? Did you laugh with the raguls from Lwow at jokes about a batch of low-quality and explosive Chinese air conditioners delivered to Donetsk? Or Jesus who you mentioned was too busy at that time?

I would do it without any pleasure

Have the same feeling. And hope Poles will be able to return Poland to themselves without external help.

Bratwurst Boy
3 Jul 2022  #6262

Stop ganging up on Torqi....what's wrong with you guys (and gals)!

As I came first to PF the enemy was still Germany.....without Torqi I would had long left again....now look at me! :)

You can't hate a country! You can hate leaders....war criminals, politicians whatever.....but declaring a whole country stuff like that is just nonsense, Torq/Kania is right.

Velund
4 Jul 2022  #6263

but declaring a whole country stuff like that is just nonsense

No, if someone planning war to last Pole. ;) In that case, there is no such thing as enough hatred. ;)

Novichok
4 Jul 2022  #6264

but declaring a whole country stuff like that is just nonsense, Torq/Kania is right.

I was the first one here who objected to this Polish Russia-hating crap. Embarrassing...

People been killed over your border since 2014,

Selective outrage is so irritating.

Bratwurst Boy
4 Jul 2022  #6265

I was the first one here who objected to this Polish Russia-hating crap

I can still hate this invasion and support Ukraine WITHOUT hating Russia....

Novichok
4 Jul 2022  #6266

Did I mention that Russia is winning?

Paulina
4 Jul 2022  #6267

People been killed over your border since 2014, but where YOU were all this years?

Crnogorac3 already asked me this question and I answered it on this thread.

I don't know any "raguls" (who is that?) from Lviv and noone told me any jokes related to Donetsk in any way.

As for Jesus - that's just an exclamation (Jesus Christ! Jezu Chryste! Jezus Maria! and so on...). But if you're curious whether Jesus was busy - you'll have to ask him. Let me know if you find out anything, because I'm curious too. He seems to be busy often...

Stop ganging up on Torqi....what's wrong with you guys (and gals)!

If he can criticise people for their attitudes on this thread, then we can criticise his attitudes. If he can write what he thinks about our behaviour, then we can write what we think about his behaviour. I think it's only fair.

but declaring a whole country stuff like that is just nonsense, Torq/Kania is right.

That's not my main problem with GefreiterKania.

Novichok
4 Jul 2022  #6268

I know that insanity is practiced by insane people and is hard to rate. Western insanity is special and seems to have no limits. Quoting rt.com:

German minister speaks out against boycott of Russian culture
Numerous Western cultural institutions have removed Russian-linked works in response to the Ukraine conflict


We have reached the point where even Germans have it.

Boycotting Russian culture is "completely wrong," German Federal Commissioner for Culture and the Media Claudia Roth said in an interview with Augsburger Allgemeine Zeitung, which was published on Saturday.

Leading the parade of the insane are, of course, the Brits. Quoting:

The Cardiff Philharmonic Orchestra in Wales removed Pyotr Tchaikovsky's famous 1812 Overture, which celebrates Russia's successful defense against Napoleon, from its program, claiming it was "inappropriate."

Does anyone here know why we defended these idiots way back?

And a reader's comment:

Tchaikovsky's compositions are "inappropriate"? We're reaching levels of retardation that shouldn't even be possible.

Bratwurst Boy
4 Jul 2022  #6269

the point where even Germans have it.

Hey!

...even the Germans? EVEN????

What do you mean with that?

Novichok
4 Jul 2022  #6270

As least likely to break ranks with woke morons like the UK or the US.


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