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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2



PolAmKrakow
5 Jul 2022  #6421

@Velund
Even if he didn't run away, Russia has no standing to do anything in Ukraine. There was no bombing or shooting of Russian citizens in any part of Ukraine. The fact is that Crimea is part of Ukraine, not Russia. And until Russians went into Crimea/Ukraine territory, there was no issue. Strange how in 2008 if this were about the Ukraine president, that Russia didn't do a full scale invasion and full mobilization then if your arguments are used for justifications.

Because Russia has never had a democracy, the concepts of real voting simply are not grasped. Since the voting in Ukraine was under watchful eyes making sure it was fair and legal, there is no basis for the Russian claims.

mafketis
5 Jul 2022  #6422

Russia has no standing to do anything in Ukraine

russians are very slow learners (since so much of their brain capacity is engaged in rationalizations for doinhg terrible things)

it's only been 30 years, they still haven't figured out that Ukraine is a separate country.. give them a few more decades and their overworked brains might figure it out...

pawian
5 Jul 2022  #6423

We will continue this discussion

No, RuSSists are too weak to conquer whole Ukraine. Forget it, darling. It is so funny you are so blindly intent on the destruction of your country as we know it. Russia is going to collapse economically under Western sanctions and divide into smaller states.

Have you heard the Western leaders are discussing minimum price for RuSSist fuels?

mafketis
5 Jul 2022  #6424

We will continue this discussion on a Polish border

Feeling lucky punk?

Border's right there.....

Dare you to mess with it!!!!!

Tacitus
5 Jul 2022  #6425

Did you catch who said what?

Did you also catch what he was refering to?

He was refering to the results of the NATO summit in Wales which was a direct consequence of Russia' invasion of Ukraine in 2014.

gregy741
5 Jul 2022  #6426

Explain then the constitutional grounds for removing President Yanukovych from power?

none . there was no ground, yan was removed to kharkiv(i believe) for security reason. standard procedure. zelensky was removed from kiev to warsaw ,so was Trudeau during truck driver protest.not only there was no ground, they didnt even stick to procedure. it required involvement of high court,they simply brushed aside.i dont think they even had required votes in rada .

but have to give some sort of reason for the stupids. so they invented this "he run away" thing
stupids are stupids so they will repeat whatever it suit them,regardless of truth

pawian
5 Jul 2022  #6427

Dare you to mess with it!!!!!

No, he wouldn`t dare. He only meant RuSSists are planning to reach the Polish border by conquering whole Ukraine. Those Mongols are really cheeky .....

"he run away"

Darling, he did run away, I remember that day till today when he disappeared and nobody knew what was happening and a few days later he surfaced in Moscow. Stop lying, orc, jon has already told you.

gregy741
5 Jul 2022  #6428

Darling, he did run away,

as i said. stipids are stupids. nothing gunna change it. i cant cure stupidity. sorry.

cms neuf
5 Jul 2022  #6429

Question Greg - do you think Russia has veto power on who runs its neighbors ? Do you think only Moscow approv3d candidates can stand?

pawian
5 Jul 2022  #6430

Russia has veto power on who runs its neighbors

Yes, Mongols seem to believe so. But the Ukrainian and Western reactions are giving them an important lesson about Europe. The sooner they understand the message, the better for them.

Velund
5 Jul 2022  #6431

He fled

Miss. No such reason in Constitution.

PS: Special for GK philatelistic collection...

The Ukrainian government has just commissioned stamps of Roman Szuchewycz who was the main commander of UPA during the Wołyn genocide.

Over this period of time up to 100,000 Poles were massacred in the name of Greater Ukraine.

t.me/intelslava/32553

mafketis
5 Jul 2022  #6432

Miss. No such reason in Constitution.

a russian trying to nitpick about points of law (in a foreign country no less) is just hilarious!!!!!

Ukraine is a foreign country... russia has no business messing with its government. you're not wanted there ever again!

Maybe repair your own blighted and singularly awful political system before telling people in foreign countries how to run theirs...

Velund
5 Jul 2022  #6433

Ukraine is a foreign country... russia has no business messing with its government

Gathered one day on the Maidan in Kiev:

- Ambassadors of the United States, France, Spain, Germany, Denmark;
- Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland;
- U.S. senators - Chris Murphy and John McCain;
- German Foreign Minister - Guido Westerwelle;
- Catherine Ashton, European Union High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy;
- former President of Georgia - Mikhail Saakashvili;
- Dutch Foreign Minister - Frans Timmermans;
- Jacek Protasiewicz, MEP;
- Lithuanian Foreign Minister Linas Linkevičius;
- Lithuanian Seimas Speaker - Loreta Graužinienė;
- Former Prime Minister of Poland - Jaroslaw Kaczynski;
- Czech Senator Jaromir Stetina

and... accused Russia of interfering in the internal affairs of Ukraine!

mafketis
5 Jul 2022  #6434

Gathered one day on the Maidan in Kiev:

Gathered =/= interfering in Ukrainian internal affairs

Invading Crimea and Donbas = interfering in Ukrainian internal affairs

Is it that hard to understand?

Crnogorac3
5 Jul 2022  #6435

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The Ukrainian government has just commissioned stamps of Roman Szuchewycz who was the main commander of UPA during the Wołyn genocide.

Over this period of time up to 100,000 Poles were massacred in the name of Greater Ukraine.

REMINDER OF HOW LONG SOROS HAS CONTROLLED UKRAINE

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/ac2tPAemFeSO/

Velund
5 Jul 2022  #6436

Invading Crimea and Donbas = interfering in Ukrainian internal affairs

Nobody invaded Crimea. There was enough local troops to gather on crossroads and not allow nationalists from Western Ukraine to do the same as in 1990's with gathering of some unidentified strong young man in sports clothes that come on "friendship trains" in public places during crucial elections. ;)

Donbass is a bit another story. But still much better than Odessa. At least they was able to not allow public acts of terror with burning alive someone who not agreed with "new nationalistic order".

pawian
5 Jul 2022  #6437

The Ukrainian government has just commissioned stamps

Not the government. Stop lying.

The Ukrainian government has just commissioned stamps

It is amasing how you are parroting each other`s Russist propaganda. :):):)

WATCH

Don`t be silly, nobody will watch your crap.

jon357
5 Jul 2022  #6438

Nobody invaded Crimea

By telling endless lies, you do yourself and your picture cause no favours at all.

SOROS HAS CONTROLLED UKRAINE

Bullshīt

Velund
5 Jul 2022  #6439

Not the government. Stop lying.

Joint Stock Company "Ukrposhta" is a postal operator of Ukraine, which is a member of the Universal Postal Union. The country's Ministry of Infrastructure is the founder and sole shareholder of the company.

The mayor of Moscow Sergey Sobyanin signed a decree on assigning the territory near the British Embassy in Moscow the name of Lugansk People's Republic Square.

On the map of the center of the Russian capital - DNR and LNR squares in front of the two diplomatic missions (US and UK respectively).

jon357
5 Jul 2022  #6440

The mayor of Moscow

Who cares.

I bet he's rich...

pawian
5 Jul 2022  #6441

Joint Stock Company "Ukrposhta" is a postal operator of Ukraine

But the postal operator isn`t the government. Similarly, I could insist that Velund and Bobko are the same person. When Bobko writes sth, I will claim it is also yours.

Paulina
5 Jul 2022  #6442

Nobody invaded Crimea.

Russia did.

There was enough local troops to gather on crossroads

LOL
Velund, do you live in some kind of parallel universe? :D

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation

"Although Russia initially claimed their military was not involved in the events,[48] it later admitted that they were.[49] Russia formally incorporated Crimea on 18 March 2014.[50][49]"

just commissioned stamps of Roman Szuchewych

Link?

Russian Jews, who fear a resurgence of anti-Semitism amid Ukraine war, have been leaving Russia in droves:

politico.eu/article/vladimir-putin-ukraine-war-forces-russia-jews-adapt-new-life-home-abroad/

"Moscow's Chief Rabbi Pinchas Goldschmidt, under pressure from the authorities to back the war, fled the country two weeks after the conflict began. He now lives in exile in Israel, and has said he has no plans to return to Russia, though he will remain in his position."

Velund
5 Jul 2022  #6443

Velund, do you live in some kind of parallel universe? :D

I wouldn't rule it out. The Internet is a place where your counterpart may very well be a dog.

But just in case we're in the same universe, I'd like to clarify. Is it true that an election taking place in an environment where one side drives its opponents into a building and burns them alive is freer and more democratic than with armed people standing at intersections who do not actively intervene in anything?

Just in case we have to organize something similar in Poland.... Everything has to be done to the highest standard, doesn't it?

pawian
5 Jul 2022  #6444

your counterpart may very well be a dog.

RuSSist dog of war!! hahaha

Just in case we have to organize something similar in Poland

Don`t be silly. Then you will come to the forum and whine that RuSSist orcs were burnt alive in Poland.... :):):):)

Paulina
5 Jul 2022  #6445

I wouldn't rule it out. The Internet is a place where your counterpart may very well be a dog.

I wouldn't go that far... Unless, of course, in your Soviet-like, f*cked up "Bulgakovian" universe there are talking and typing dogs lol

more democratic than with armed people standing at intersections who do not actively intervene in anything?

Please, don't make me laugh:

hrw.org/news/2016/03/18/ukraine-fear-repression-crimea

Velund
5 Jul 2022  #6446

Please, don't make me laugh:

There is subtle difference between "fear repression" and "see burned corpses and dead pregnant woman with broken back"...

Crnogorac3
5 Jul 2022  #6447

EU circus performers do not let up in their madness. Poor Ukrainians, after EU membership, are now being given false hope of hundreds of billions of euros for reconstruction, even though their own economies are on respirators. The craziest thing is that they made a schedule of which region of ex-Ukraine will be restored by which EU country. The Poles and Italians got the DNR, and the Czech Republic, Finland and Sweden will "restore" the LNR. 🤣

I can't wait for the Poles in the proud and defiant DNR. 😁

t.me/denazi_UA/14489

Paulina
5 Jul 2022  #6448

There is subtle difference between "fear repression" and "see burned corpses and dead pregnant woman with broken back"...

I see you didn't read that Human Rights Watch report. I'll quote a fragment for you then:

"In two years, authorities have failed to conduct meaningful investigations into actions of armed paramilitary groups, implicated in torture, extra-judicial killings, enforced disappearances, attacks and beatings of Crimean Tatar and pro-Ukraine activists and journalists."

Just in case we have to organize something similar in Poland....

You already did - in 1947.

Crnogorac3
5 Jul 2022  #6449

🇷🇺🇸🇪⚡A new applicant for the death penalty in the DPR is now from Sweden

DPR investigators have charged a Swedish citizen who surrendered at the Azovstal plant in Mariupol with participation in hostilities as part of the Ukrainian armed formations as a mercenary, - TASS.

t.me/intelslava/32533

👍

pawian
5 Jul 2022  #6450

the Azovstal plant in Mariupol

I read that a few dozen heroic defenders of Azovstal have been exchanged for RuSSist POWs. But you had claimed many times they were going to suffer heavy penalties for killing orcs.

What went wrong????


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