Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

You forgot to mention fourth half, that do all the wonders... ;)


Looks like washing mashines was just maskirovka. These suckers lurking around with pocket full of greenbacks and buying all that brave ukrainians can offer. Two Caesar guns that now disclose their secrets at Uralvagonzavod was bought, for example, for $120k each...

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Price asked for HIMARS launchers was, probably, too high, so Russians destroyed couple as a part of negotiations...

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Tried to find something about this in russian language segment - and seems nobody is given a fcuk about this story. Not so many discussians at all and a significant fraction think that this was internal criminal "razborki" between self-proclaimed Mendzlis members that lost a ricjh stream of money once power was changed and was unable to agree how to divide something that was accumulated in good times. Also many thoughts that it was SBU covert operation and those two lives now with new ukrainian passports under new names somewhere in Kiev.

I suspected as much. In war you always have to be ready for tricky enemy moves like that!


Yes, I've heard of it...

bulgarianmilitary.com/2022/07/05/ukraine-has-sold-two-french-donated-155mm-caesar-howitzers-to-russia/

... probably our Ukrainian allies were in dire need of funds, and could spare 2 out of their 12 (or was it 18?) Caesars. Let's not be too harsh on them. That's why the best way of helping with the equipment is to send stuff that nobody would want to buy. Poland and Czechia sent T-72 tanks. Were any of them sold to Russians? No.

Does anyone here know how many Ukrainians were (1) executed, (2) deported, and (3) imprisoned by the Russians in the liberated part of Ukraine?

Yes, it was destroyed or taken for free as a trophy. Some of them with modern night sights, highly praised by tankers.


Seen notes about two in Kherson - SBU killers that attempted to kill official of new local government.

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@mafketis
Not true maf. The equipment is arriving as soon as training is completed. This coming directly from people moving the equipment into Ukraine. The balance of MLRS from USA to be in place within the next week to ten days. British systems on the way as well. Cant train people that easily when everything is in English.

Russia running out of all smart weapons, and Ukraine just getting them. Will be a different war in the next few weeks.

Bidens/NATO sanctions are not working, what a waste of time and our tax money! They could have done nothing and achieved a better result.

The Russian currency has risen 42% against the dollar this year, sanctions are not working..

Nothing but crickets from the Eurons... Perhaps, ignoring it will make it go away.

Russian language segment of what? Of the internet?


It's convenient to blame it on criminal activity. I could do the same with that body under the bridge that me and gregy discussed about. After all, during the chaos of war crminal activity is on the rise and that man could be killed by some mafia or something.

But those two men in Crimea were abducted by men in black uniforms. What criminals wear black uniforms in Crimea under the Russian rule?


Many who? Many Russians? lol Russians like you, Velund? :D

And what about Reshat Ametov, 39, who was abducted while attending a demonstration in March 2014 and his body was found later with signs of torture? Is his corpse living happily with an Ukrainian passport in Kyiv too?

What about other cases described in the reports? Have you even read those reports? Do you have access to Amnesty International site in Russia?

Another fragment from one of those AI reports:

"Andriy Schekun, the leader of Ukrainian House, an organization promoting Ukrainian language and culture, was abducted by pro-Russian paramilitaries and held for 11 days in a secret location where he was electrocuted in March 2014. Following this ordeal, he was handed over to the Ukrainian military. Again, no-one has been held accountable for his torture. Three other members of the organization went missing in May last year and have not been seen since.

"The de facto Crimean authorities tell us that they are investigating all cases of abduction and torture, but we have yet to see any concrete evidence of this," said John Dalhuisen."

It's 2022 already, so what are the results of those "Crimean authorities'" investigations? Surely, after 8 years they've must have found out something? 🙄

Not working is one thing. Making the sanctioners suffer more than the sanctioned is another and so totally moronic ...hahahahaha...
I mean the lower 80%, or course. The scum at the top never does.

@Joker
I see the brain surgery team is back. Another American who knows something that the economists don't. Amazing the intuition some have.

Meanwhile Russians have it much worse. Period. That's just a fact, and sanctions have zero to do with inflation in the US. Inflation was coming before the war even started. Higher gas prices? Deal with it. Maybe fat @$$es need to start walking the two blocks to buy their smokes and booze instead of driving. The level of stupidity in the US is one of the primary reasons I left. And now its on this board every day.

Whatever the outcome, I want it to be over.


...but we have elections in November to let the US ruling mob know what we think about getting into another Euro bullsh*it war - in this case between ex-Soviet republics! You can't make this sh*it up, as they say.

China and India are buying up the Russian oil and funding Putans war. Basically, that means the RuSSians will eventually win, right?

Sanctions without any enforcement never work and only made things economically worse for Europe and the USA.


You sound just like Joe Biden! We dont want to deal with it as his poll numbers are below 35% and the Dems are going to be voted out real soon:)

Stay in Europe dude.. We dont need you back over here!

Probably at a discount. We, on the other hand, are fu*cked at full price!

Biden has blamed everyone else except his own failed policies. The whole country knows he sucks and has dementia they dont have a prayer to win re election.

Hes blaming Ma and Pa gas station owners now, how pathetic!

You, stupid Eurons, deal with it. You have enough of everything, including those moronic volunteers, to fu*ck off and do it on your Euro own.

@Joker
I own business in Poland and USA, pay taxes in both too. Unlike most here. My opinion matters, and my tax money matters more. Stay there please and don't pollute Poland with your stupidity.

So sad that you cant afford the gas, then take a Fing bus. Thats the problem with Americans, fat and Fing lazy. More reasons I left.

Yes. November will likely see a shift, but not a great one. Biden is an idiot, no question. Trump was completely retarded, and likely will be charged soon. And if Trump had his way the US would have been out of NATO. Thats how Fing stupid that man was. DeSantis is the only real solution on the horizon. But by then this war will be over. So, instead of crying over a little gas expense, do something to make your own life easier. Walk, dont smoke, stop over eating, and relax. The inflation is from COVID, yes from Biden policy and far left idiocy.

Now, Ukraine is paying a much higher price. And if the US was not pumping cash and arms into this, Ukraine would only be the first to fall. Putin would go after all pre 1991 countries. Think thats good for the US economy? If you do, then please just find a rope and a tree.

Excellent Post PolAm !
I like the way you simplified it so the uninformed voters can digest it.


Read between the lines, PolAm.
He boasts to own an EV.


BINGO !
90% of Americans are clueless what this war is even about and 80% of them don't care.
You PolAm are there talking to the people that are actually personally involved in it which makes you much more of an authority than the American brain surgery team.

Hang in their buddy as the game here is gang up on, bully, diminish, shame game.

At last back on topic. :):)
Ukrainians have thanked for the upteen time for that gift:

#Ukraine: Ukrainian tankers operating T-72M1 tanks thank Poland and Czechia for their significant contribution to the defense capability of the Ukrainian army.
In total Ukraine received about 270 T-72 variants from these countries- most of them received additional Kontakt-1 ERA.

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Only a german would be stupid enough to write something like that.
- introduced glasnost and perestroika
- tried to de-alcoholise the russian society
- got the troops out of afganistan
- allowed the warsaw pact countries their free will to break away from the soviet block or not.
- became friends with reagan and thatcher leading to the resoultion of the cold war .

but most obvious to you gutmenschen kraut, without gorby there would have never been a reunification of Germany.

*nods*

What I was saying! (And I am a German too btw.)

No problem! 👍

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@Crnogorac3
You iidiot, did you even watch the video? lmfao The malls are Fing dying! And these women couldn't afford foreign goods unless they robbed a bank! I love when dummies post videos that actually prove the other sides points! Priceless.

I would say the percentage is closer to 100%. I've discovered this little forum of yours after the conflict in Ukrain started. Let me say: reading it I have learned more than from all the MSM put together. I don't know why we are this misinformed in America, but it makes sense that a neighbor like Poland would know better what is happening there.

The owners of this forum doing a he'll of a job educating people.

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Serbian sniper "Deki" who is fighting alongside Russian forces reports that after Lugansk province was 100% liberated, they are now heading to liberate the entire Donetsk province.

After these territorial losses, Ukraine is no longer the 2nd largest country in Europe by surface area. It fell into 4th place, behind France and Sweden.

In terms of population, it fell from 6th to 8th place.

Until now.

Large quantities of destroyed ukro equipment were left behind in Lisichansk.

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...because we don't give a sh*it about a war between two ex-Soviet republics.

"Gorby" did not introduce all those measures and agreed to German reunification out of the goodness of his heart, but because the state of the Soviet Union left him no choice. He looked into the accounts and realized that unless a drastic change happened, the Soviet Union would collapse economically and that both its' colonial empire in Eastern Europe and the war in Afghanistan were no longer sustainable. I'll give him credit for realizing that sooner than other Soviet leaders, but he did what he did because he was left with no choice.

By 1989 the GDR had lost its' strategic value to the Soviet Union since it was about to loose control over Poland as well. All that was left was haggling for a price. West Germany paid billions to the Soviet Union and provided desperately needed food and medicine to the country. The alternative would have been to use force to prop up a failing country with no popular support and for no apparant gain with a significant economic damage to the Soviet Union itself.

@Novichok

It's true that thus might as well be happening in Antarctica if you talk to a normal peaon on the street. We feel the price change at the gas pump, and in terms of our heating bills, but I don't think many people understand the relationships between Polis people, Russian people, and Ukrainian people that you can see in this forum. To be honest, many people in America don't know the difference between and just call everybody Russian. Now I know this is a big mistake. I think thy deserve more of our help than they are getting now, but the problem like I said is that people here in the States don't understand th details of this conflict like the neighbors do.

The price of gas is the least of our problems. It's the fed debt that will never be repaid and will one day make the US into Zimbabwe.

We also know the cost of getting entangled with the Euro morons in their world wars. How many Americans died in Europe for sh*it?

As I already said, Euros can handle this one alone. If not, screw you. You should have spent more money on weapons and less on refugees.

The impotent ukrops, seeing that they are powerless against the Russian Army and that they are losing on all fronts, in their cowardice they shelled civilians in Donetsk and killed a 10 years old Russian girl.

For this they used HIMARS (made in USA and sent to ukrops by USA), so uncle Joe should explain to her mother how these weapons are used for the good cause.....

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youtu.be/R5QMUcqmLyI

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The order is already given that ukrop gunners should not be treated as POWs but instead should be shot on sight.

Russian children will be avenged!

And now because of the recession caused by COVID and bad policy, oil prices are dropping steadily. Now below $100 a barrel, the pump relief will come soon enough. In the US that is. In Poland, record profits every month for State owned Orlen even when price reductions are easily possible, Orlen or the government does nothing for its citizens. Now, that is a page out of Exon and Shell. America has done well in educating the corporate profit structure.

Recession for Poland? Oh hell yeah. Another interest rate hike coming tomorrow to fight against currency values while totally Fing every citizen with a mortgage or car loan.

In the mean time, more Orcs are roasted today as they attempted to make gains in Donetsk and were repelled. Also while Russia made claims of destroying two MLRS reports now are proving those claims to be false and no systems were ever near the targeted areas.

Why is this POS Crnogorac3 even allowed to be here. Posting videos of children like this. WTF?!