Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 2

@Velund, that wouldn't be "sex". That would be a horrendous war crime. But since you're a Putin-loving Russian, it's understandable that you confuse those two. Btw, did your girlfriend give you her blessing already to rape Ukrainian women in case you were sent to Ukraine?

That's a good move.


Yuk.

@Paulina
They're just getting bitter because russia is losing so badly.

@jon357, I think it's more than this in case of Velund. He's the only one who's making such disturbing comments. He sounds like a potential rapist and a sadist.

Yes. There are certainly some very sick comments to read in this thread.

I lay it on thick about orcs and will continue to do so; it is a time of war and their trained killers are pointing guns at people I care about (and have abducted in-laws including children from Mariupol to somewhere unknown in russia) so I don't apologise for any strong rhetoric against them or their willing enablers. Nevertheless some of the comments from orc supporters here show a streak of sociopathic evil

It seems that sociopathy is a russian characteristic. Routine torture, rape (including children) and wanton destruction are their national characteristics.

Слава Україні! Героям слава!

Always faithfully on topic.... :):):)

The Polish government launched a mobile billboard campaign aimed to spread awareness in the EU. To be seen in the capitals.

rmx.news/poland/polish-billboard-campaign-stop-russia-now-set-for-western-europe/

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Your in-laws? My God, I'm so very sorry to hear that, jon357... :((( I'll be praying for your family. When were they abducted? Do you have any contact with them?


Cool!

Pretty well when the orcs first started abducting people. Their building was destroyed fairly early on.


They managed to make a short phone call from the occupied part of Donbas to say they're still alive, since then only indirect contact from within Russia.

There are thousands of people in their situation, some taken to Siberia and the russian Far East, many, maybe all, forced to sign things, some have to work for free. The orcs have 'filtration camps' which sound vile.

We will hear about a lot of human misery before this war is over.

@Dirk diggler

You really are a disgusting person.
If you had been in Poland in 1939, you would have betrayed your own people, because of your fascist beliefs.Don't ever call yourself a Pole.


No they don't ,if they had feelings, they would not be animals.

The latest trends in fish tank decorations:

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youtu.be/vRr--tSgTnk

Media wants WW3. Boris & Scholz believe Elensky will defeat Putin. Ukraine petrol shortage.

Their ships are being repurposed as submarines. To make up for the loss of the Kursk..

Erm... russian military WHAT? xD

Excellent! Jawohl mein Herr! You and Obersturmbannführer Pawian are really on a roll!

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You are free to ignore what I said at your own peril. After 30 million deaths, their attitude towards another Western aggression - this time by a cuddly snake called NATO - is what a reasonable person might expect if not admire.

The video comes from Reuters and is genuine.

"Russian mercenaries posted this comparison of a Russian soldier's first-aid kit (above) and a Ukrainian one (below). "This is what Putin and Shoigu brought us to..", one of the commenters complain." they were preparing for an invasion for years , yet the corruption is so deep, that the military commanders can't stop stealing the money instead of providing basic first aid kits to their soldiers

twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1520016749944524800


No one here ever said the Azov Battalion were saints.

Another report of atrocities committed by the Russian troops. If the Russian, Chechnyan or other troops fighting for the Russians, are are reflection of the societies they live in it doesn't say much for civilisation of those societies. Disgusting brutes is what they are and not fit to be part of the civilised world.

amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/may/06/ukraine-photos-poland-border-refugees-rape-atrocities

Ukraine has always been known as the "Breadbasket of Europe."
Nearly 25 million tons of grain are currently stuck in Ukraine and unable to leave the country due to obstructed seaports and infrastructural issues.
I fear for a long, cold, hungry winter for the E.U.

Did I mention I am a genius? Quoting:

Top Western media outlet deletes video critical of Ukraine
In the recording, Usmanova tells reporters that Azov militants "kept us in the bunker" for two months and did not allow her family to leave using the humanitarian corridors established by Russian troops.

OK, PF Russia haters...Why would Russians want more dead civilians? With the notoriety of this case, even my cat knows how to spell Azovstal by now.

Quoting:

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has criticized a plan to phase out Russian oil imports, which has been proposed by the European Commission, saying that such an embargo would be tantamount to "dropping a nuclear bomb" on his country's economy.

Hungarians - smart. Poles - not smart.

Link?


Which outlet? A video with Natalia Usmanova is available in this BBC article:

bbc.com/news/world-europe-61296851


I was like that woman - I couldn't believe it until I saw the photos. And it's true that not many photos of those atrocities are being shown or are circulating in Poland. I'm guessing that even less is being shown in the West (or am I wrong?).

Der Spiegel

From the RT article that Novi read , Der Spiegel according to the far left marxist Jung welt jungewelt.de/artikel/425938.mariupol-halbe-wahrheit-im-spiegel.html
the full video of the interview is here youtube.com/watch?v=tukuRh3eVF0&t=41s

It appears what has been reported that she said is true, and bbc also did not mention it (which is not suprising)/ But it would be good if our german speakers on this forum could comment on the credibility of Jung Welt and the full youtube interview.

What SPIEGEL said:

We have temporarily removed the video that was located at this point from the page due to content inconsistencies that were subsequently identified. SPIEGEL obtained the video material from the Reuters news agency and is now clarifying the matter with Reuters. We will then publish new findings here.

So, lets wait and see...

PS: JUNGE WELT is a Putin-Versteher medium...they criticize for example the ban of soviet flags around memorials. As they are used to glorify the Ukraine war...

jungewelt.de/artikel/426034.politische-repression-rotes-banner-unerw%C3%BCnscht.html

Lots of information coming out now about how US intelligence is being given to Ukraine to take out more ships and key military personnel. While all this is good, and the Russians continue to get their a$$es kicked, it is a dangerous game to publicly talk about. Everyone knows the US is sharing information, but the US talking about it is just stupid, and if Putin strikes back, it will be the US own fault.

That said, it also show that US military intelligence is far superior than Russia's or anyone else's. And should also send notice to Russia that if they do retaliate, the US will likely escalate in return and wipe out Russian forces in Ukraine pretty quickly.

Someone in the comments on YouTube translated it into German and I used auto translate to read it in English. Based on that and on what I was able to make out from what she's saying in Russian:

This woman is saying that the soldiers wouldn't let them out from the Azovstal because they were worried about the civillians' safety (she thinks that they were just "scaring" them). The soldiers were telling them that it wasn't safe to leave the bunkers and to use humanitarian corridors (which was true, because people were getting killed while using them). They were saying that everything was destroyed, bombed and that there are bad people there that will kill them.

I think she may be detached from reality of what happened to Mariupol. They were living in those bunkers for two months and probably don't realise yet the full extent of destruction and death and in what conditions people were living during the siege and how difficult it was to get out of the city. For a long time they were much safer in Azovstal than many people in Mariupol. Until, of course, Azovstal became the last stronghold of the city defenders. Judging by her name and surname she's probably Russian and maybe that's why she thought that Ukrainian soldiers aren't telling them the truth. She mentions listening to radio - judging by the fact that she's speaking Russian, I guess it's possible that she was listening to a Russian radio that wasn't informing how dangerous Mariupol is and that people are being shot at humanitarian corridors. Also, at the end of the interview the camera moves and you can see a soldier with a white tape wrapped around his arm - that means it's a Russian soldier.

That's my take on it.

The pentagon officially denied the reports, first rule of fight club is never talk about fight club. I hear a russian frigate has been hit and sustained serious damage with a neptune missile. another 500 million down the drain :)

@paulina
Thanks for taking the time and effort to get the truth amidst the fog of war and ruski propaganda (that novi and others swallow) out there :)

Newsweek headline: Why do Russian soldiers act like animals? An interview with a profiler who helps the police track down most dangerous criminals.

newsweek.pl/polska/spoleczenstwo/wojna-w-ukrainie-gwalca-torturuja-zabijaja-dlaczego-rosyjscy-zolnierze-robia-to-z/dwlm5mr

@amiga500, you're welcome :)

@pawian
I can't read this article - it's only available in subscription :/ Pity...

download bypass paywalls clean extension and add newsweek.pl to custom sites in the options. gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-chrome-clean. it's a soft paywall, the article can also be read by pressing reader view before the page fully loads in firefox and vivaldi browsers.

@pawian
facetious remark incoming: newsweak poland lol, replace russian soliders with polish border guards and that would have been their typical article before the russian invasion ;)

Interesting post from a pro-russian military telegram channel.

Ukraine plans to strike the Crimean Bridge on May 9, Latvian National Armed Forces representatives Janis Slaidins said, according to Latvian media. He pointed out that Ukraine has a capability to strike this strategically important bridge after Western arms shipment.

This ties into reports from BBC Ukraine and Euromaiden Press (officially denied by USA) that Ukraine has already received the M142 HIMARS and M270 MLRS, with a range up to 300 km, enough to drop the Crimean Bridge.

May 9th could be interesting, the bridge gets dropped and Putin announces war/mobilisation and maybe martial law? Or maybe this is all fake news and Putin will announce a ceasefire/end to hostilities and if the Ukrainians continue, then announce war at a later date as justification. Let's see..

twitter.com/euromaidanpress/status/1522140597469028354?t=TAsy-oY6ZoTN2AAKWTCZ9w

Up to 300km will be not enough, they need something with range up to 500/600 km.