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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



pawian
25 Sep 2022  #3211

The current policy of our government towards the war in Ukraine is supported

Yes, although progressive centrists and leftists consider them gangsters. But we are united when it comes to RuSSia and Ukraine.

Putin is not a communist,

He is a former communist which is the same coz he is using similar methods as they did in the USSR. A hyena can`t change its spots so easily - do you know this saying???

mafketis
25 Sep 2022  #3212

I wonder what you may have to say about the countries of Sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America, or South Asia

Depends on the country (I judge individually from what I know which is sometimes not much)

Spanish speaking Latin America, the one I know most about, is not homogenous at all (despite the common language) and some countries make use of their human and environmental capital a lot better than others.... Chile and Uruguay are probably the most functional while Central America (especially Salvador) is the least functional and most of the others somewhere in betwen (depending on region and/or time). Mexico swings between showing promise and squandering it due to similar cultural problems as russia (servility of the population and willingness to defer to rich thieves).

One of the reasons I despise russia so much is that it does so little with what it has... tons of very smart people who devote their lives to theft or lies. It doesn't even try for anything like honesty or integrity or individual rights or even basic human dignity... it squanders more potential than most countries have on trying to be an imperial power long after the age of empire has ended....

Invading Ukraine and putain's mad dreams of empire are symptoms, not the disease (which comes from the pathological passivity and dishonesty of the population).

Crow
25 Sep 2022  #3213

you know sh*it about the Polish nation.

I obviously know more then you. Its because I walk the path of ancestors.

So, first, Poles aren`t nation but people. France or Germany or Italians or whatever are nations. Poles are older. A people. Polish language isn`t invented at some table but naturally, thru the filter of time.

That as basic thing about Poles. Thing that you say to your child, or you don`t. Thing that makes the difference.

Now.

We, the Poles hate the Russian state in all its mutations

Don`t speak in general. I suggest honesty to you. Vatican hate Poland more then Russia and work against Poland, while Russia do hesitate. This is all so viable to outside observer. So go hate Vatican. Or Germany as Vatican`t primal tool.

And listen, you who hate. Stop that. Stop making problems to us Serbs. This way or another, Russia is Slavic and Sarmatian, and isn`t worse then any western European state or USA. Not worse then Vatican, as I said. Actually, naive compared to Vatican.

So stop hate and work against Russia in the name of foreign interests because Russia`s resources belong to Russians and to other Slavs. To us Serbs for sure.

Don`t work against Serbs. Against yourself. Step out of delusions.

Walk the path of the ancestors. As Adam Mickiewicz said, with Serbs.

gumishu
25 Sep 2022  #3214

Well that's good to hear! On the other hand, I saw videos recently of echelons of T-64s (uparmored with Kontakt-1 reactive armor

yeah - Great Patriotic War all over again - tell me one thing: why do you support this war? is it because you feel a mission of civilizing Ukrainians while your own country is run by a corrupt mafia that doesn't care about it's own citizens? - my swoich nie brosajem? like those thousands of dead Russians in the infamous train somewhere in Ukraine that you tried to bomb into oblivion

why can't you just simply leave Ukraine alone

pawian
25 Sep 2022  #3215

why can't you just simply leave Ukraine alone

Coz RuSSists want to make RuSSia Great Again like it was as Soviet RuSSia. However, they miscalculated the resistance of Ukrainians and the free world. Now they are going to pay for their imperial obsessions.

Down with RuSSia and RuSSists! And down with Russians who do nothing to change their country for better in a civilised manner.

Barney
25 Sep 2022  #3216

@pawian
Yes I know the saying I would say a leopard never changes its spots.

My comment was pointing out that he is not a communist he is infact an enabler of turbo capatalism mixed with a huge dose of extreme Conservative orthodoxy. It was a rebuttal of an ill-informed comment.

gumishu
25 Sep 2022  #3217

enabler of turbo capatalis

turbo capitalism where the capitalists need to pay a dole to FSB or die in strange circumstances when they fail to properly support the regime

Paulina
25 Sep 2022  #3218

Well that's good to hear!

Why is that? You don't want Velund to die in your stupid war?? lol

The mobilization, in general, has been a sh!t show thus far.

It looks like it's a complete chaos:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/nie-widzi-na-jedno-oko-ma-problemy-ze-sluchem-i-raka-skory-wlasnie-go-zmobilizowano-6816129818131264a

This guy from the Ural region was mobilised even though he's 59 years old, blind on one eye, can't see anything without his glasses, has hearing problems, suffers from hypertension and he has... skin cancer. He thought he'd get rejected at the medical examination, but... there was no medical examination. In the meantime, Velund sits comfortably at his desk in Moscow. Unbelievable.

Ukraine is an even more grotesque place than Russia

It clearly isn't.

Miloslaw
25 Sep 2022  #3219

@Paulina

Even though I actually think that Bobko is the most, or only rational pro Russian poster on this forum, I agree with all you have said.

Paulina
25 Sep 2022  #3220

People are protesting against mobilisation in the capital of Dagestan, the police is arresting them:

twitter.com/SobolLubov/status/1574076999479562248?s=20&t=kUx5Jhx8fLfUki-HEOj8dw

Angry inhabitants of a village Endirey in the Khasavyurt District in Dagestan blocked a federal road in protest against mobilisation. There were some scuffles and shots fired in the air by the police:

twitter.com/adagamov/status/1573990432144490496?s=20&t=3Nsrzx8nSvgRw2yxxGkQOA

Paulina
25 Sep 2022  #3221

Kadyrov announced that there will be no mobilisation in Chechnya because they've already exceeded the "launched plan" by 254%:

odessa-journal.com/kadyrov-explained-why-chechnya-would-not-mobilize/

Anyone who protests in Chechnya against the mobilisation or the war is being mobilised or their relatives are, just like it happened to the male relatives of 40 women who tried to hold an anti-war rally in Grozny.

What a cruel, f*cked up country.

Paulina
25 Sep 2022  #3222

Another video from Dagestan (it doesn't say where exactly) - women are trying to block the road in order to stop police cars from going further:

twitter.com/teamnavalny/status/1574038715395198977?s=20&t=1TUOsfEbpwsARYUmsEnhLA

johnny reb
25 Sep 2022  #3223

I watched one from Dagestan where a woman tweeted: 'Why are you taking our children? Who attacked whom? Who attacked Russia? We are the ones who attacked Ukraine. Russia attacked Ukraine. No to war!'"

I think the Russian citizens have had enough of this insanity.
Hang Putin for his war crimes like they did Hussain and get it over with already.

Crnogorac3
26 Sep 2022  #3224

youtu.be/4ht0Ji1c0yI

Who's winning in Ukraine?

Reed Coverdale with Ryan Dawson

Novichok
26 Sep 2022  #3225

The reason I admire Putin is that he gave the West the finger and the Western globalist slime can't do sh*it about it. That Article 5 NATO welfare states like so much will soon have a Russian version.

No, Russia will not collapse. Putin will use tactical nukes if pushed too far and the West will not start an all-out nuke war to defend an ex-Soviet republic since the West can't even defend itself from the invading hordes.

He who controls fuel and food is in charge and it's Putin, not the Western bankers printing funny money.

pawian
26 Sep 2022  #3226

he is not a communist he is infact an enabler of turbo capatalism

Like current Chinese leadership. :):):)

He who controls fuel

Darling,. he can control fuel , even eat it and sleep with it. So what? Does he control clients in Europe who refuse to buy his fuel??? No.

No, Russia will not collapse

Of course it will, it is doomed to collapse. Stop daydreaming. Ha!

Tacitus
26 Sep 2022  #3227

can't do sh*t about it

That and assisting the Ukrainians in delivering Putin one of the biggest humiliations in Russian history.

cms neuf
26 Sep 2022  #3228

The other reason you admire Murderer Putin is because he pays your wages - not much but enough to keep you in lung busting cigarettes, oily fish and to put Mix into your supposed "Lexus"

He doesn't control fuel - we are restocked with Norwegian and Canadian supplies. He can drink his oil

Or he can use it to fly his fighter jets except they are being kept on the ground because they can't cope with Ukie missiles.

What a life you have, shilling for rapists

Tacitus
26 Sep 2022  #3229

shilling for rapists

And losers. Which according to his previous statements is even worse. Putin is already utterly humiliated. Even the small countries in Asia that he wanted to keep in Russia's orbit do not respect him anymore.

PolAmKrakow
26 Sep 2022  #3230

So nice to see Novi and the boys got the band back together. Putin will likely use a tactical nuke, I agree, and the west's response to that will determine how much longer this war goes on. When it happens, China and India will cut off buying from Russia because this puts their quasi support in question within their own countries. But they wont need Putin or Russia by then because they already have all the fuel and oil they wanted. When the Russian people see their leader is willing to put the whole nation at risk, for a little land in Ukraine where will their support go?

Putin does not control food or fuel though. That is a delusional thought. Everyone in Europe is topped off on their reserves and more fuel is coming in every day. Putin lost its biggest LNG market for good or at least for years. When you have no one to sell gas and oil to, they become worthless and your economy implodes. This is the long term planning of the west.

What happens when planes in Russia start falling from the sky because they can not be repaired or can not be maintained properly? When all the imported cars can not be repaired? When Levi's, and all the other western products have worn out and can not be replaced? When more Russian men are mobilized because this mobilization is an absolute failure? The people rise up and retake control. It may take another year, but it will happen.

mafketis
26 Sep 2022  #3231

interesting....

military commandant of a draft center around Irkutsk gets shot for his trouble.... reports differ on whether he survived...

twitter.com/Andrew__Roth/status/1574272320071426049

mafketis
26 Sep 2022  #3232

According to Ukrainian officials, it appears that russian conscripts are being sent directly to the front line with no training whatsoever...

This certainly fits in with the hatred and contempt that the russian government has traditionally shown to those unfortunate enough to live within its borders (and another reason to shrink those borders....)

twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1574170287406567428

Ukraine is providing info on how to successfully surrender, so...

PolAmKrakow
26 Sep 2022  #3233

@mafketis
In other war related news out of Moscow, Putin has signed another decree ordering the expedited production of 300,000 Lada's for the families of newly mobilized Russians.

mafketis
26 Sep 2022  #3234

Say bye bye iron and steel plant in Novokuznetsk..... employer of over 11,000 people... bye bye jobs....

leading producer of rail components.... bye bye rail maintenance

and only producer of tram components.... bye bye streetcar maintenance

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1574180565292503040

all just a coincidence I'm sure....

mafketis
26 Sep 2022  #3235

Conscription office set on fire in the Irkutsk region....

twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1574291477080854528

according to generalsvr (again) putain had been told that the absolute limit for any kind of effective mobilization was back in the middle of July and he dithered and dithered (apparently he's not only a coward he's incredibly indecisive and has a short attention span)

So, mobilization is going pretty well... from the Ukrainian perspective...

Crnogorac3
26 Sep 2022  #3236

- If Kiev does not withdraw its forces, the Russian Federation will declare war on it.

Strelkov about what will happen after September 27, when the referendums of the LNR, DNR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions on accession to Russia will be held

t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/10496

cms neuf
26 Sep 2022  #3237

What referendums are you talking about ? None have taken place. And none will

mafketis
26 Sep 2022  #3238

referendums are you talking about ? None have taken place

yes, only a deranged nazi could call the grostesque pantomime taking place in russian controlled areas "referendums" (much less "referenda")

these idiotic propaganda tricks don't even follow russian law (to the extent that a concept like 'law' exists in the inferior, degenerate and depraved place known as russia)

Crnogorac3
26 Sep 2022  #3239

Mass protests against mobilization in the Caucasus. So far, so many emotions have not been seen.

twitter.com/ILRUSSO1/status/1573768618277478403

🇷🇺 Mobilized men somewhere in Russia

t.me/intelslava/37876

jon357
26 Sep 2022  #3240

Maybe if we lose this war

It's not a maybe

Putin is not a communist

He's not, is he.

Closer to fascism if anything but essentially just an authoritarian kleptocracy.
.

What a cruel, f*cked up country

This is clear. Europe needs to come together and not only defeat them but split up their federation.


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