Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3

@PolAmKrakow

You want Russia to lose this war?

Aside all other consequences, but if Russia lose war, Vatican will continue to lie people of the world and will never pay for its genocidal crimes committed on Serbs. You want that world?

Think about that. Thinking on that would give you wider picture.

I'm gonna put this up here.... a refutation of the false russian propaganda talking point about 14,000 people killed in Donbas

twitter.com/DietmarPichler1/status/1550949457486905345

refer back to this any time the claim is revived by some russian pathological liar (it's really a culture falsehood - they run from truth like vampires from the light)

At last!

Ukraine receives first three Gepard anti-aircraft tanks from Germany

Germany had planned to support Ukraine with Gepard anti-aircraft tanks. Now the first three machines have arrived, Kyiv confirms.

spiegel.de/ausland/krieg-in-osteuropa-ukraine-erhaelt-erste-drei-gepard-luftabwehrpanzer-aus-deutschland-a-6951a52b-1f98-4040-b92a-d88e06062684

About time! But that can only be the beginning....

More good news:

Russian troops apparently have to choose between East and West

According to British intelligence, Russia's military has bottlenecks due to damaged combat vehicles....

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-news-am-montag-russland-will-ukrainer-vor-eigenes-tribunal-stellen-a-426c518e-a466-49f4-aab1-259cc1f060f1

...According to British secret services, Russia is also being slowed down in Ukraine by the necessary repairs to a large number of damaged combat vehicles. "Russian commanders continue to face the dilemma of whether to resource the offensive in the east or bolster defenses in the west," said an update from the UK Defense Ministry. In addition to the well-known personnel bottlenecks, Moscow also faces challenges in repairing and maintaining thousands of combat vehicles that were damaged in the war in Ukraine.

On July 18, intelligence services discovered a Russian repair shop about 10 kilometers from the Ukrainian border where at least 300 damaged vehicles were parked, including tanks, other armed vehicles and supply trucks. ...


spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-news-am-montag-russland-will-ukrainer-vor-eigenes-tribunal-stellen-a-426c518e-a466-49f4-aab1-259cc1f060f1

Russian troops made Kiev further storm attempts during the night east and south-east of the Slovjansk - Kramatorsk conurbation in the Donetsk in eastern Ukraine. "The enemy is launching an attack not far from Spirne, fighting is continuing," the Ukrainian general staff said in its situation report. There is also a fight for the suburbs of the Bachmut transport hub. ....

Old liver face Lavrov meanwhile has gone off piste in his efforts to convince the poor nations of the world to support Russia - admits that purpose of teh war is regime change and that the democratically elected government is mot acceptable to Russia

Any of these dictators who throws their hand in with Russia now will know that is seriously short term thinking. Lavrov will soon be in the Hague

In the meantime, what has improved in Poland since Feb 22? Hahahahahaha...but Lavrov is your problem...hahahahahaha...
To answer my own question: We feel much better and don't mind paying more for every damn thing.

@Novichok
Actually what has improved in Poland is a lot more people spending money in small business. All these new residents create new revenue. Once empty apartments are now being rented, and the government is not paying for it any more. Amazing what can happen for the little people who are dealing with inflation.

@cms neuf
Russia is a clown country being lead by clown kings. Egypt, Ethiopia, Uganda and the Republic of Congo are to be the new allies of Russia? LMFAO Fing looser countries untie together and we shall all continue to live in poverty proudly. Is this the rally cry? LOL From mud huts to apartments without toilets or running water, we shall band together as one and show the west that we do not need them! LMFAO Retards leading retards. No offence to actually disabled people intended.

What about the lower 90% - the people who do not own private businesses and work for a salary.
Did their lives improve? If so, how?


At least you didn't join the "r*SSia" idiots. I appreciate it.

@PolAmKrakow
Don't need money to crush somebodies skull, it's very much free.

Only thing Russians would need are weapon factories and bullet production

@Novichok
The lower 90%? There are so many jobs to be filled, you are only in that category if you are not willing to work to get out of it. Year on year wage growth is staggering. Average wage now is about 5000 pln per month. Not great, but if you work two jobs, you are doing pretty damn well even in Krakow. But those not willing to work anywhere in the world will not have the money.

@Kashub1410
Skull crushing is free anywhere in the world. Russians need not only factories, but supplies to go in those factories. They can get none. These African countries aligning with them are laughable governments that still operate like tribes. A continent so rich in natural resources and so lacking in intelligence wants to partner with another country with the same problems. Brilliant.

as the smart people predicted months ago, and the smart ruskis on this forum have to to admit, velund and bobko the ukir counter attack was predicted right at the start as being in late july/august till winter sets int, so how u ruskis like it now? must be hard not knowing if the usa himars or the polish 155mm alitlrilery will kill ya or the 10 years out of date MRE. no wonder bobko has bowed out, back to crying and trading stocks, let's see how long velund last, as for the others who don't even live in russia or are russian, just your usual trolls i wouldn't even p*ss on their mothers grave or in their mouth. thats how low life scum they are. ruskis and their collaboratiionists panicking in kherson atm, the province they got by bribery not force so as if they gonna fight about it. now looting like the orcs do. the usual but they scared as F of the ukris. great to sea.

Yea, Western Europe and great deal of Central and Eastern Europe united against Russia. All what Popes ever wanted when think on Drang Nach Osten.

yes, there are galloping popes with their battery making Z from Russians.

China's biggest oil refiner has cut its purchases of Russian crude, according to Reuters. Yep there goes that China partnership. China was using Russia and nothing more. With China demand dropping, look for more issues in financing the war effort in Ukraine. No money no rockets. No money no help from those allies in Africa. LMFAO

What's got better here since February ? The malls are open, the ryneks and lakes are full of happy drinkers, skirts are short, kids got back to school, unemployment is low, the finance minister resigned and the dumb Polski Lad was scrapped. iga is a Grand Slam champion and we are looking forward to the World Cup. And helping our friends and neighbors from Ukraine has brought a new unity to Poles. (at least the ones who live in Poland)

And how has life in Russia improved since February ? Unless you are a black marketeer or a specialist in leg amputations then I imagine it's not a good time

youtu.be/mactoSForFY

You surely mean "Drang nach Westen".....

@PolAmKrakow
Then you should read up on the fall of Byzantium. It was a very rich realm, yet it fell to the hungry hordes of Turks.

Their Numbers will only grow, within and outside the west. They are biding their time on hopes of the naivity of the westerners and using their blind trust towards them.

They are indoctrinated to lie through their teeth, only had to see the charade they performed at the Belarussian border.

Poland after seeing the west creating it's own downfalling spiral and destruction can only see it as foolishness and justice for everything that the west had done.

And after being ignored for so long, it seems like waste of time to point it out anymore. As nobody listens anyways.

The west will be slowly outbred, outbled and robbed slowly but, surely.

Only thing Poland can do is getting ready for when Europe will call upon Poland again, Poland has little to prepare when there are forces focused on slowing down Poland's growth at all costs (the former three Crow nations).

The only one left standing as a threat is Germany if they decide to continue their long term strategy towards Poland. While at the same Poland is their safe haven in case of civil war or devastation.

Poles are concious about this, and certain German elites are surely concsious about such a possible scenario. One of many reasons why Germany invests in to Poland, and why the image/reputation of Germany in Poland is vital for long term.

The day western europeans will have to flee caused by persecutions will only increase each decade.

Metaphorically, forts have to be built, walls placed and teeth and nails sharpened.

Belarus is helping in this by enabling Poland to prepare openly without much restrictions

.....even the fence in Melilla is to much for them....isn't a West-destroying mass invasion then not something of a long shot?

While debating religion and timelines is great to get the brain working in the morning, those conversations don't impact todays war. But, the long term planning of Islamist supporters should be recognized as something that Putin clearly does not understand or utilize himself.

I just read a great interview with Lithuania's PM. She really has a handle on the history of the USSR, and where Putin's Russia is today. She definitely understands Putin's thinking and the Russian collective mentality.

Now with the counter offensive set to begin and more weapons arriving daily in Ukraine, we are about to see which army is more resolved to their task. My money is still on Ukraine being more motivated and now at least equaling the weapons of Russia on the field. The USA lost about 58,000 troops in Vietnam, and Russia is going to surpass that number in less than one year at the current rate, while it took the US 20 years in Vietnam. Today, Vietnam is still a hot topic, and one has to believe that eventually, Russian families will see this war in Ukraine as Russia's Vietnam. You can not "un-see" wounded veterans when they come home. When Putin is finally dealt with, it will be interesting to see how this situation will be dealt with.

....a people being invaded and attacked should always be more motivated....compared to an army being told to "liberate a brother people" confronted daily with the reality. An army whose soldiers have families back home...parents, siblings, children. There is only so much even a totally obedient state media can hide and lie about.

Many Ukrainians, many people are entrapped by mass media. Mass media turns people into obedient zombies. Mass media and soft power makes miracles for the western Europe and USA.

So comes the new reality.

@Bratwurst Boy
One thing for certain, military survivors will bear a grudge towards Putin and his gang. That's for sure, I am sure the Russian army will become more politicized towards the government simirarely like during ww1.

Gotta remember that their fighting Ukrainians this time mainly, not civilized Germans

and so what? Cheap resources for western Europe and USA for another century?

No, its not only Russia. Things go in direction of Multi-Polar world. All will share on the new principles. All will get new roles.

Face it.

*nods*

Putin planned to win a quick war....it develops into a long nightmare....every day the Ukrainians stay firm the more it becomes a "russian Vietnam"...at whose end will come a government change...in Moscow mind you, not in Kiev!

Who knows what Putin planned. And those behind him. And those behind Biden and Xi. Who knows. We can only speculate.

....that's what PF is for! :)

"Multi-polar world" is a russian talking point meaning the world should be divided into regional dictatorships...

If you were in russia, you'd be in jail.

The russian government jails lots of people that support it.... they don't want support based on principles, just passive acceptance... russians aren't compared to sheep for nothing...

This will be the one great push that many nations needed to get off fossil fuels. Solar and wind are going to become huge players now. More and more Poles going with solar, and lots of small windmills on farms these days that are attached to generators. More electric cars being purchased now as well. Putin in the end may do us all a favor by starting this war. Energy conservation has never gone out of style, people just became lazy.

While I agree with a lot of mass media comments and criticism, we still need the media to be informed. Again though most people are lazy and only go to limited sources. Research and thinking with an open mind are critical today. The truth is available even with all the dramatic reporting. This is why I rely on numbers, deaths and ammo depots blowing up are reliable sources of information. Propaganda or politicizing things does nothing.

A library in part of occupied Ukraine has been ordered to destroy all books published in Ukraine after 1991...

twitter.com/Flash43191300/status/1551655971969286144

surely about NATO and not about cultural genocide (aka ethnocide) at all....

@PolAmKrakow

Now you talk reasonably brate. When we are at topic, I won`t be surprised if one of these days Nuclear fusion became available. By some its from long ago available but top magnates wait for the moment. Moment is near, maybe.


To us? No. We have theater. He did it for those on top.


Look. Resources are limited and last thing top magnates want is to waste oil and gas for raw heat energy. They and humanity need it desperately for polymers, fertilizers, etc. No industry, no civilization without it. Understand? Idea is exactly that- to stop using oil and gas for energy.