Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3

That's the question I ask with every wave of refugees flooding the country from far away 'stans!

But usually there is a difference concerning fellow continental european countries....like Ukraine....people welcomed them with open arms...

Probably because they have the "right" skin colour.

They are Europeans!

Of course we are closer, have more cultural and historical bonds than with any far away 'stan...and alot less problems with the integration!

Those not-Europeans have neighbour countries where they could ask and get asylum, but no...they travel over half the globe just to reach little Germany...hellloooo?

Joyous news

"One prominent channel with more than 800,000 subscribers commented on Friday that Russian Armed Forces "withdrew from Yampil to Lyman."

"The Armed Forces of Ukraine managed to break through the defensive orders of the RF (Russian Federation) Armed Forces and force the Russian troops to retreat to the city (Lyman)," the channel, which goes by the name of Rybar, wrote.

"The Lyman defensive line has narrowed to the administrative boundaries of the city itself. If emergency measures are not taken in the near future to release the Lyman and transfer a significant part of the reserves, then the city, together with its defenders, will fall, and nothing will stop Ukrainian formations from developing an offensive deep into Russian territories," Rybar added."

Time is running out for these Orc's. Perfect if they fall while Putin puts on his show.

Those Russian "refugees" would make lousy soldiers anway. Let's not think about them as about some sort of anti-putinist resistance fighters fleeing the oppressive regime. They had half-a-year to protest or flee the country but they didn't mind what's happening in Ukraine as long as others were doing the fighting and dying. They're a bunch of cowards and opportunists. And there's bound to be thousands of sleeper agents among them - if we welcome them in our countries, they will pretend to be anti-putinist, they will make careers in business or science and appear to be perfect citizens... until they get that wake-up call from Moscow. Let's not make it any easier for Putinescu. Total ban on emigration from Russia - they created that monster, let them deal with him now.

Not to mention that large numbers of Russians in the West would traumatize the already traumatized Ukrainians who fled the aggression. Can you imagine them having to put up with throngs of Russians around them (some of them not even hiding their views - with huge "Z" letters on their cars). F*ck 'em. Let's worry about Ukrainians - THEY were invaded and THEY are murdered in a senseless war of aggression.

Maybe becasue they are refugees not chancers? I wonder how much your mind must be disorted for you write such nonsense.
Refugees should be from countries near by. The same continent at least. Anything else is not about refugees but about politciks or idology.
You Germans should know that playing with an idology at the expance of a common sense and reason is not good for anyone. I guess you never learn.

Maybe because (using Poland as my example) the refugees from Ukraine are mostly women and children and the elderly (and/or disabled) while the 'refugees' that might be arriving from russia are literally, fighting age men who are running rather than confronting their government....

THAT!

Neither age, gender, nationality or skin colour matters when applying for asylum.


It is always to expect others to fight.

This is wartime on the borders of a NATO state, where one of the combatants is strongly supported by NATO member states and a war in which NATO is likely to be formally involved.

Since germany is part of the Schengen zone there is a clear danger that any r*SSians who enter there could travel to locations also within the Schengen zone in which they could cause real damage.

Germany should decide which is more important. Loyalty to NATO who have protected them against r*SSia for decades or some rules and regulations which can be easily changed.

The normal peacetime rules do not apply and any States which have such rules can amend them in an hour by an Order in Council or their local equivalent


That's something that racists certainly think, and their voice is always loud on migration and asylum issues. Nevertheless, the unique security situation that we're in and the necessity of r*SSia's defeat is paramount.


Admitting them is helping r*SSia.

@GefreiterKania
Remember that they are being blinded by propaganda and probably believ it 100% that Donbass has been shelled by Ukrainians.

Just like West thinks Serbians were the only/main culprit in Yugoslavic civil war.

So probably most are clueless and put Z's in support of not getting shelled by Ukrainians or that eastern Ukraine is not to be shelled anymore. There are plenty of good people in Russia getting fooled en masse by this BS story

It begins:


spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/mobilmachung-in-russland-deutsche-botschaften-melden-ansturm-russischer-staatsbuerger-a-14b11cb6-b109-48b5-9ba4-79d050fef071

The German missions abroad in Russia's neighboring countries are overburdened: According to SPIEGEL information, there are thousands of visa requests from Russians who want to avoid conscription.

The phones don't stop ringing, the e-mail boxes are overflowing: the German embassies in Armenia, Kazakhstan, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Belarus have recorded a sharp increase in visa requests from Russian citizens since the Russian mobilization.

....

The only way to handle these Russian cowards is to put them in interment camps. That way they can't fight for Putin but can wait safely until Ukraine's victory.

For sure some of the people trying to escape Russia now are already guilty of war crimes in Ukraine and those need to be fully investigated before any of these chickensht young kids can get a visa

....hmm.....maybe a solution:

.... It is no longer possible to record and process the applications within the specified deadlines - for this reason there are no exact figures on the number of applications, it said at the request of SPIEGEL.

.....

The Federal Foreign Office is currently examining an increase in its workforce in the five cities. ....

spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/mobilmachung-in-russland-deutsche-botschaften-melden-ansturm-russischer-staatsbuerger-a-14b11cb6-b109-48b5-9ba4-79d050fef071

Usually the Embassies need two weeks to decide about a Visa application....that is now not possible anymore.....decisions could take an eternity! ;)

Official:

If you apply for a visa that entitles you to a long-term stay, you must expect several months to be processed, depending on the purpose of your stay.

auswaertiges-amt.de/de/service/visa-und-aufenthalt/visa/207794#content_4

Straight to prison. No trial. Polish justice. You are good...


...said a Polish PF poster so no evidence is necessary.

It's internment, not interment.

Its deafening how the msm and nobody else wants to talk about the Nordstream sabotage. I wonder why?

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It's deafening because they can't answer the question: Why would Putin do it? and keep their lying faces straight.

He doesnt like money so he blew up his own pipeline.

same difference...


To scare Germany? One pipeline gone but maybe NS2 can be saved? If Germany gives up helping Ukraine.... and today the Bundestag voted to not increase military aid to Ukraine... so it's working. The German political establishment has not given up on russia....

I'm not saying that's the case but it's an argument why he might do it....

Why does NATO still allow Germany to be a member? They clearly have Russians interest at heart.

Well....if you want to go down that route....that would point much rather to someone who want to make absolutely sure there will be no gas delivery from Russia to Germany ever again....a sign to Germany not to think otherwise, not to fall out of line and try for some negotiations, some deal with Russia, not even after this war is over and Putin gone.

...some eastern European???

*runs and hides*

....he is an Anglo! What would Britain gain from this?

three big news items today...

one: russia shelled a line of civilian cars in Zaporizhzhia (no military targets nearby) killing (so far) 25 civilians....

two: putain delivered a speech that was mostly about the west (and a little about trying to take parts of Ukraine) during which medvedev fell asleep and others looked bored and unengaged and like they'd rather be having a colonoscopy with no anesthesia...

three: Ukraine has officially applied for NATO membership....

No chance!

That would make this invasion to an attack against a NATO country....that would mean third world war....probably nukes...NO WAY!

...maybe after this is over...

Agreed. NATO has a policy of not admitting nations with unresolved border conflicts.

More interesting to me is Zelensky's assertion that Ukraine is ready for talks with Russia but with a different Russian president. If Russia (as opposed to Putin) wants a way out they know what to do. I'm afraid they don't have the collective balls to do it though.

@Novichok
Again, I do not care, and it is not relevant.

@Joker
First, its not his or Russia's pipeline. Second, Russia will never get to use those lines again, so why not blow them up and cause environmental damage while creating a panic among the uneducated regarding a gas crisis. There are many other reasons why Russia would do this, like making the threat to the new Baltic Pipe more real.

Who is the 'else' that you mean?


They can't until the war has been won and r*SSia defeated. This will not be soon.

It is already the early days of WW3.

Talk about that pipeline then Joker - not sure what the big deal is ?

Murderers were using it to transport low grade oil and now they are not.

In any case it was going to be out of use soon as Russian oil is old news. We all found different sources

In American terms it's like Donald Trump and Hillary arguing about the US election or the Detroit Lions and Bew York Jets having to play a week 16 game even though they have no chance of the playoffs

A professional translator lays out the points in putain's speech today....

twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1575853684852150272

summary quote: "the purpose of what Putin is doing in Ukraine is to throw the West off its pedestal. This isn't about NATO or Ukraine, this is the big play to replace the current world order."

putain is a globalist, just a different kind of globalist with a different vision (basically regional warlords who stay out of each others bidness).

An attendee of putain's speech reacts (esp for those who think putain is the problem and not a symptom of the problem): "We'll beat them all, we'll kill them all, we'll plunder all their stuff. It's going to be what we love to do!"

twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1575868253939068928