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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



Atch
8 Oct 2022  #4021

some households are hoarding garbage to replace their coal.

As PolAm rightly says, this has always been the case in Poland. Sloppy journalism on the part of Bloomberg. It's one of the reasons for Poland's well known filthy, toxic air. Quite apart from coal, people burn everything and anything.

For example back in 2018 Radio Poland reported that despite the fact that incinerating rubbish has been banned in Poland for almost 20 years, such practices are widespread, according to the Polish Smog Alert organisation.

archiwum.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/392134,Burning-trash-still-a-problem-in-Poland-report

and in March of 2022, "People burning rubbish and using old, inefficient stoves are getting away with polluting the air because of the lax enforcement of environmental laws, an NGO has claimed."

Your ignorance about a very basic fact of everyday life in Poland certainly demonstrates how nobody should take any notice of your foolish posts on far more complex topics.

amiga500
8 Oct 2022  #4022

I don't know, it doesn't seem to be a strike on the bridge itself - apparently a truck with fuel exploded

that's why i wrote ied (implovised explosive device) anyway the latest goss it was a kamikaze sub or ship as all the trucks are checked for explosives before entering the bridge.

Crow
8 Oct 2022  #4023

People in Poland Are Burning Trash to Stay Warm This Winter

Last winter at my weekend house on the hills above Danube river, I got idea for one day to use stock of many years old shoes, sneakers, slippers. Man, it was fire and it was warm very fast. It was even fun. But then came toxic smell, too. The stove and chimney were glowing red. At one moment I though entire house will go to damnation. So, rest of old shoes, sneakers, slippers went to garbage.

In Poland, some households are hoarding garbage to replace their coal.

In case the end of civilization my experiment proved to work. Its not that pleasant, there are risks but well..

Paulina
8 Oct 2022  #4024

that's why i wrote ied (implovised explosive device)

Ah, OK - I thought you meant that it was planted directly on the bridge. Btw, I doubt there was anything "improvised" about those explosives...

as all the trucks are checked for explosives before entering the bridge.

Yes... but... We probably should remember that it's RuSSians that we're talking about :) Maybe they didn't check this truck because the driver bribed someone or sth...

As for theories there's yet another one - according to Mykhailo Podolyak RuSSians did it themselves (investigators said that the driver was from Krasnodar Krai in RuSSia) - it could be an internal fight between the military and the FSB. In case of losing control over the South of Ukraine RuSSian Ministry of Defence could blame FSB for that failure.

Novichok
8 Oct 2022  #4025

Quoting statista.com/statistics/1293492/ukraine-war-casualties/

The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) verified a total of 6,114 civilian deaths during Russia's invasion of Ukraine as of October 2, 2022.

Conclusion: evil but incompetent.

Quoting watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi

...we know that between 184,382 and 207,156 civilians have died from direct war-related violence caused by the U.S., its allies,...

Conclusion: you have to break some eggs to bring democracy to the people who never asked for it.

PolAmKrakow
8 Oct 2022  #4026

@Novichok
Come on. The US wars are not even news now. Lets just address the current war. LMAO We already know that even by mistake the US is the most efficient killing machine in history.

Novichok
8 Oct 2022  #4027

The US wars are not even news now.

It's a good reference to help PF Russia haters chill out. That 9 to 1 ratio should do the trick at least for a while.

pawian
8 Oct 2022  #4028

happy birthday to the leader

yes! Time to blow out the cand .... ehr... bridge!!! hahahaha


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Crow
8 Oct 2022  #4029

I am also glad that Putin facing fact that USA sponsored sabotage of Crimean bridge. Its really glad to me. Somehow I feel he would finally figure out how needs to stop to have proposals and just finish what he started.

pawian
8 Oct 2022  #4030

It's a good reference to help PF

Hey, all forum RuSSists, I can`t see any comments of yours on the blown bridge. Why are you so shy? hahaha
That was such a beautiful bridge hahahaha Almost like American. buhahahaha

Protected with 20 systems. But a single radio controlled bomb planted on an ammo supply truck was enough to cause such an amaSSing shock to RuSSists.


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johnny reb
8 Oct 2022  #4031

and just finish what he started.

He will die before that ever happens.

Time to blow out the cand .... ehr... bridge!!!

The look on Putin's face is one of having serious desperation and depression.
That was a classic Pawian. +1

pawian
8 Oct 2022  #4032

Putin's face is one of having serious desperation and depression

Plus constipation.

cms neuf
8 Oct 2022  #4033

I love the Russian trolls reaction to Russia's defining moment

Talking about a 20 year old war that didn't involve Ukraine

But the time for talking has gone - Russia is in real danger of breakup and bankruptcy now. Turn off your computer and go to the front to defeat the Nazis. Don't forget to buy boots, clothes, medicine and food from your troll farm wages.

Crow
8 Oct 2022  #4034

He will die before that ever happens.

What is life of a politician.

The look on Putin's face is one of

Like a donkey.

That is what one must be when believe that he can negotiate with NATO and EU.

Just, Putin isn`t the only one that will come out of delusion. Hopefully in time.

Crnogorac3
8 Oct 2022  #4035

@pawian

Don't worry, the Russians will retaliate for the bridge. Many foreign mercenaries have been fried.

In the Zaporizhia direction, a high-precision weapon of the Aerospace Forces attacked a temporary deployment point for foreign mercenaries in the city of Zaporozhye, killing more than 160 militants.

cms neuf
8 Oct 2022  #4036

Like F the Russians have got high precision weapons LOL - most were sold on the black market to Pakistan and the rest ran out some time in April

Crnogorac3
8 Oct 2022  #4037

Grey Zone, one of the channels associated with the Wagner group says that Shoigu and Gerasimov could receive the boot.

t.me/grey_zone/15262

Novichok
8 Oct 2022  #4038

1. The teeth. The gold crowns were pulled by evil Russians. Instead of keeping them to sell later, they obediently gave it back to Zmen to show it to the world.

2. The pipe. After investing billions, Russians blow it up to be in the news for a day or two.

3. The bridge. After investing billions, Putin blew it up to stir anger and a desire to get even.

4. Dead civilians. Putin, the Terrible, told his army to kill as many as they can. Unfortunately for the plan, they were too busy pulling teeth (see Item 1) and managed to kill only 6000 while losing 20,000 of their own.

Did I miss anything?

pawian
8 Oct 2022  #4039

, the Russians will retaliate for the bridge

What with??? Ukrainians will attack it again and again, while RuSSists are slowly running out of their supplies.

Did I miss anything?

Nope! Everything is OK and you are still getting a desired portion of attention from us. Are you ha ha ha happy???

Shoigu and Gerasimov could receive the boot.

Yaaawn. Come back when Putin receives it.

mafketis
8 Oct 2022  #4040

Did I miss anything?

your head.... oh wait, that's in putain's zhopa....

Crnogorac3
8 Oct 2022  #4041

Another public and famous face. The head of their war crimes office. This one is soft, asking for far too little.

Ukraine has made civilian bridges fair game. Will Russia finally snap and start destroying Ukrainian bridges over the Dnieper?

That river is MASSIVE, and except for the Kherson and Zaporizhia bridges, none of them is of much importance to Russia. Crimea is not even seeing much military involvement, but Ukraine's capability to supply its regions will get seriously crippled if those bridges are destroyed.

Well, looking at the moods on the Russian Internet, Russian people now see it as fair game and demand a strike on ALL Ukrainian bridges saying that this should have been done long ago. Many call for strikes against other civilian infrastructure (power supply, water supply, roads, airports). Considering the number of Russian missiles spent on the destruction of supply depots and other minor military facilities, at least one more big missile strike is not a problem.

Russian people are waiting for Putin's decision and they are getting angry. It's the first time we see a such number of hawkish statements, usually, Russians stay silent about the matter aside from usual internet commenters.

Maybe Russian society is waking up and getting angry. Better late than never.


pawian
8 Oct 2022  #4042

Maybe Russian society is waking up and getting angry. Better late than never.

Yes! RuSSians have to understand at last they are fekked in the azz by KGB gangsters and remove them from power.
How? In RuSSian style! Rebelled RuSSist soldiers retreat from the Ukrainian front and head towards Moscow where they seize the Kremlin and propaganda outlets. Simple.

Novichok
8 Oct 2022  #4043

What with??? Ukrainians will attack it again and again,

They will until convinced that the next attack on that bridge will bring the pain that's not worth it.
There are X targets still standing in Kiev. Russia has Y cruise missiles. The question is if Y>X and if Putin has the balls to use them.

Crnogorac3
8 Oct 2022  #4044

A famous Russian journalist. The Russians are furious at the wait. "Otherwise" is the general who throws Putin out of the window.

Andrey Medvedev wrote:

The worst that could happen now was a relaxed exhalation.

"Whew, that went away. As long as the cars go, as long as the trains go, it's all right, it's all right."

Nothing is fine. Nothing will be as it was yesterday. Kyiv will not stop trying to blow up the Crimean bridge, nor will it stop hitting our infrastructure facilities. Ukraine is a Basayev state. The Basayevs aim to kill people simply out of hatred for them. Therefore, we cannot relax for a second.

The terrorist strikes will continue. They will look for our vulnerabilities and strike. They have not given up the attack on Kherson and Berdyansk. So now we can only tighten control, and increase security.

And please, can we already start acting in earnest? Today I was asked the question "what are we waiting for" by such different people (businessmen, market sellers, a girl barista in a coffee shop, a man whose biography is in the 90s and who could be the basis of a crime film series, an officer of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, a film producer), that I have not the slightest doubt that people are not waiting, people demand a harsh reaction. Otherwise...

I don't even want to think about "otherwise".


cms neuf
8 Oct 2022  #4045

The other question is whether they work, have fuel and the guidance systems have not been sold for zlom.

pawian
8 Oct 2022  #4046

They will look for our vulnerabilities and strike.

Darling, it is clear as daylight. Ukrainians are intent on liberating their lands from RuSSist occupation and the West is intent to help them with it.

Even if they don`t liberate all of them, RuSSists will hand them over to Ukrainians as a peace deal which will allow to lift the sanctions. Never forget about them - can you imagine the sanctions last for years? Decades? Coz it is quite possible. Can you imagine RuSSia after 10 years of Western sanctions???? hahahaha

Crnogorac3
8 Oct 2022  #4047

The State Duma reported that Ukraine will have to be returned to the 18th century.

Deputy Speaker of the State Duma, Pyotr Tolstoy, spoke about Ukrainian facilities that must be destroyed in response to the terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge.

"Answer as harshly as possible: bridges, power plants, all roads from Poland, headquarters and government shelters. We will have to return Ukraine to the 18th century. Then, after the victory, we will rebuild everything," said the parliamentarian.

He noted that, of course, it is a pity for civilians, but it should be understood that the action is ongoing and has already lasted for far too long. We need to get together and spit on the West, remarked Tolstoy.

It is also noted that the majority of Russian politicians support such measures, reports PolitNavigator.

military.pravda.ru/news/1757382-pridetsja_vkolotit_ukrainu_v_xviii_vek/

pawian
8 Oct 2022  #4048

spoke about Ukrainian facilities that must be destroyed

Darling, that means Ukrainians will retaliate on your RuSSist infrastructure in RuSSia proper. How simple.

We need to get together and spit on the West

Get together??? hahahaha 1 million potential RuSSian conscripts have just shown you their asses commenting on your idea of getting together. hahahaha

RuSSian escapee conscripts:


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Crnogorac3
8 Oct 2022  #4049

The Ukrainians, Poles and others will be crying for Putin when and if a right-wing more radical Russian leader takes over the steering wheel.

pawian
8 Oct 2022  #4050

when and if a right-wing more radical Russian leader takes over

But before that happens, we will witness a little civil war in RuSSia! Ha!


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