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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 3



Novichok
5 Sep 2022  #2101

Let me try one more time...
No general with brains will ever tell his troops that the enemy is weak and incompetent. Instead, he will say that the enemy are mean mother fu*ckers and will fight like hell but we are meaner and we will win. That's what Patton would say.

Today, the enemy would file a grievance at the Hague for being insulted. US guys were told to stop watching villages at night in Afghanistan because their privacy was being violated. No, I am not making it up.

You, Russia haters, are nancies and would never understand Truman, Churchill, Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki. Putin is exactly in the same situation so don't bother with dead babies and rapes since nobody was charged for the dead Dresden babies and Berlin rapes. Wars are mean things. Tough sh*it.

As far as who fired the first shoot, see Israelis to find out what they think about that idiotic American movie concept of always waiting to be shot at first and hoping for the best.

pawian
5 Sep 2022  #2102

journalist Safranov convicted on " secret evidence" for 22 years.

This is today`s RuSSia, the prison of decent Russians.

cms neuf
5 Sep 2022  #2103

We do understand Hiroshima and Dresden - they were 75 years ago, actions to try and finish a war that was started by other agressors (including the USSR of course). They remain highly controversial in Western society even today and many books and newspapers debated both sides of the argument.

You would not be jailed in the US for saying Bush, Obama or Trump are war criminal's.

In Russia saying you have started a war is enough to land you in prison, and saying the Russian soldiers are rapists and war criminals would lead to a long sentance.

And as for your other points Russian troops are not mean sons of ******* and won't fight like hell - they have been running away, refusing to fight and only showing determination when trying to half inch some poor kids headphones or barbie doll

Miloslaw
5 Sep 2022  #2104

Let me try one more time...

No Rich.Don't even bother wasting your time.
You already lost this argument weeks ago.
Russia cannot and will not win this stupid war and will suffer for decades for even starting it.
1.This is a war between Russia and the USA, UK and Poland.
2.The allies have much more power and clout than Russia.
3.Russian morale is at an all time low.
4.Winter is coming. Besides letting loose a few missiles, neither army will be advancing much this winter.
5.The Ukrainians have already said that they need to attack now, before Winter arrives, that is logical.
6.I know, from my own sources, that massive amounts of military aid is currently being flown out of The UK to Poland which will arrive in Ukraine soon.

Expect a massive Ukrainian attack on Russian occupied Ukraine in the next few weeks.

Novichok
5 Sep 2022  #2105

they were 75 years ago, actions to try and finish a war that was started by other agressors

Bullsh*it! The real aggressor was the US by meddling in Asia and screwing with Japan and their ability to get the resources they desperately needed.

To their credit, Japan launched a limited strike against US Navy, not civilians. Their war crimes came later after the US decided to go full bore after them.

After PH, there was no need for a war with Japan and the thousands of dead US Marines being forced to take every fu*cking island.

The problem here is that most of you operate at the third-grade Civics 101 level of just-unjust. Life is not a good-guys-bad-guys bedtime story.

Novichok
6 Sep 2022  #2106

This is so cool (yes, pun intended). Quoting RT.com:

Russia refuses to help ease energy squeeze in Europe until sanctions over Ukraine invasion are lifted

Moscow announced on Friday that Nord Stream pipeline would not be reopening
Gas wholesale prices soared by 30 per cent yesterday when the markets opened
Kremlin: Western sanctions 'have brought the situation to what we see now'
Putin spokesperson said Russia is unable to source parts for necessary repairs


So, now we know for sure that sanctions have consequences. In this case "unintended consequences". No parts to Russia, not gas from Russia. Hahahahahahaha...
That was predictable, wasn't it, Western geniuses...

OK, it was not from RT. Dailymail is the source.

cms neuf
6 Sep 2022  #2107

So a few countries wouldn't send weapons because they didn't want their gas cut off. Now they have their gas cut off anyway.

So this morning they can start to send weapons - no holds barred.

Russia is 40 percent of the EU supply, of one commodity. So we can survive on the other 60 plus some replacement supplies, plus using less.

But for Russia the lost gas revenue is fatal - there will be way less money. Troops are already downing their soviet eta rifles because they are not being paid. How will Putin keep his toadies happy in Moscow when there is nothing to steal ?

And who is going to pay troll farm wages ?

The gas you are burning off now is lost forever - money that belongs to ordinary Russians is literally going up in smoke

Alien
6 Sep 2022  #2108

@cms neuf; And who is going to pay troll farm wages ?.....
Ask Bobko and Co. They will know it for sure.

Novichok
6 Sep 2022  #2109

And who is going to pay troll farm wages ?

How much do they pay and where do you apply? Is fluency in Russian required?

mafketis
6 Sep 2022  #2110

until sanctions over Ukraine invasion are lifted

I thought the sanctions were ineffective and the russian economy was stronger than ever?

Why would russia get so bent out of shape about measures that (I keep hearing) have no effect on it?

jon357
6 Sep 2022  #2111

And if they're doing so well, why have they "slightly delayed" the illegal referendum they plan to hold in Crimea?

Paulina
6 Sep 2022  #2112

This one is a sad video...:

fb.watch/fmz5jxTZCX/

A description for those who don't have an access to Facebook:

Rinat Sadykov volunteered to fight in Ukraine after his son, a Russian soldier, died there, but he returned disappointed with the state of the Russian military.

"We don't have an army", he said.

He complained about the Russian gear (in comparison to the one Ukrainian soldiers have) and the fact that they have no real commanders, just some kind of "impostors".

"We found family albums in Ukraine in the houses destroyed by bombs. We looked through the albums and asked: 'Who are we fighting against? They are our [brothers]. We found photos of [Ukrainian] soldiers who had fought in Afghanistan. And now we were fighting each other. How is that possible?"

"Shoigu, Putin, what were they thinking? They knew this was coming. They could have prepared our fighters. They could have sent soldiers with [military experience] and not send these kids."

This guy is from Buryatia, one of Russia's poorest regions. Moscow has been recruiting heavily in the region. He encouraged his son to join the military - he said there were no jobs in the region and he worried about his son's future if he stayed at home.

mafketis
6 Sep 2022  #2113

illegal referendum they plan to hold in Crimea?

Cherson/Kherson/Xerson (depending on your romanization preference...) and one reason it's going to be postponed is that Ukraine just blew up the warehouse where they were keeping the ballots (already filled out?)

Kashub1410
6 Sep 2022  #2114

@Paulina
Well, at this point. Putin is probably trying to gun down as many young male Russians as possible to reduce chances of unrest and in act of desperation hoping to gain as much possible advantage before a peace treaty.

Who is there to cause problems, if all fighting ready men are abroad, not watching out for their women and governing powers just abusing them further.

Korvinus
6 Sep 2022  #2115

enemy are mean mother fu*ckers and will fight like hell

Poe's law...

The Ruskies were doing absolutely garbage after their attempt to take Kiev failed. They spent like a month faffing about near Kiev, trying to make that Cauldron happen - a cauldron on the end of your supply line without the troops for it on a pretty big city? Really? - and after that lost a bunch of men and vehicles in that botched ass retreat of theirs.

Their plan right now is literally "Western Front 2022 Edition" - pound enemy with absurd amounts of artilery, advance. It worked for a spell because they have massive soviet stocks allowing for massive arty dominance, but now the Ukranians have the ability to properly fire back.

This is literally the best Russia can do... in 2022.

johnny reb
6 Sep 2022  #2116

Face it, Europe is on the brink with these sanctions.
More than 70,000 Czechs are protesting in Prague, demanding the ruling coalition take a neutral stance on the Ukraine war to ensure energy supplies from Russia aren't cut off ahead of winter.

Protesters are outraged at the European Union for sanctions against Russia that have sparked soaring electricity bills and triggered a cost-of-living crisis.

mafketis
6 Sep 2022  #2117

More than 70,000 Czechs are protesting in Prague,

Any on the ground reports? There was/is a large russian expat community in the Czech republic.... I wonder how many people in the square were speaking russian and not Czech with each other?

Korvinus
6 Sep 2022  #2118

More than 70,000 Czechs are protesting in Prague

How many of them will be arrested? Let me guess : zero

cms neuf
6 Sep 2022  #2119

We are on the brink ?

Today is the 90th day since Murderer Putin turned our gas off

My own business is down about 9 percent on my budget and the war is one of the reasons. But still profitable and recovering after covid disruption. I will grow nicely in 2023

Today it is sunny and cool - I went to the gym, took kids to school, had breakfast with a lawyer, couple of zooms, went swimming and now going for sushi with a friend

Is this what being on the brink is like ?

Novichok
6 Sep 2022  #2120

Why would russia get so bent out of shape about measures that (I keep hearing) have no effect on it?

This is how you spot a Polak...He argues with his own claims.
Did you hear Putin claim that sanctions have no effect? Clearly, facts have no effect on you.

pawian
6 Sep 2022  #2121

Face it, Europe is on the brink with these sanctions.

No, we aren`t.
The secret report made by Russian economists and other experts for their leaders in the Kremlin proves that the sanctions are working well and RuSSia`s economy is in deteriorating steadily.

More than 70,000 Czechs are protesting in Prague,

Don`t be silly. We don`t care about Czech pro Putin communists. They came to Prague from all over the country. Czechia has 10 million people.

So, now we know for sure that sanctions have consequences

Yes, darling, they have serious consequences for RuSSists.
And very well!!! hahahaha

Novichok
6 Sep 2022  #2122

Putin blackmailed Time into posting this headline:

Europe's Energy Crisis Is Going to Get Worse. The World Will Bear the Cost

and this:

To be clear, the energy crisis is already here, and Russia is fully to blame. Natural gas prices topped $3100 per 1000 cubic meters in mid-August, a 610% increase over the same time last year as measured by the Dutch TTF market. At this price, many power stations cannot afford to operate for long. As a consequence of the rising cost of input fuels, benchmark electricity prices in Europe have surged almost 300% in 2022, breaking records. Taken together, energy prices are ten times higher than the five-year average.

What I can't show in my post is that big grin on my wrinkled face so here is the best I can do verbally: serves you right, morons! Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Now you really know sanctions have consequences. Hahahahahahaha...

If you want to read more about how stupid you are, here is the link. No, it's not RT.

time.com/6209272/europes-energy-crisis-getting-worse/

pawian
6 Sep 2022  #2123

No parts to Russia, not gas from Russia.

And who will be hurt more, darling??? Think logically. Are you able to? We have other sources for gas, while RuSSia hasn`t for parts. Ha!

serves you right

Very well. No problem. Knowing that RuSSia is finished will be our comfort in rooms colder by 3 degrees C. . hahahaha

Novichok
6 Sep 2022  #2124

prices in Europe have surged almost 300% in 2022, breaking records. Taken together, energy prices are ten times higher than the five-year average.

Leno never made me laugh so hard...Ten times...hahahahaha...300%...Not 30%...300%...hahahahahaha...

How do you say eat sh*it in Polish?

pawian
6 Sep 2022  #2125

energy prices are ten times higher than the five-year average.

Exactly! And that will make people save energy at last!! We were too spoiled with low prices before.
This crisis is a blessing for us. And for this planet, too.

johnny reb
6 Sep 2022  #2126

Headline News:
Russia dropped the hammer on Monday by announcing gas supplies to Europe through Nord Stream 1 will be halted indefinitely until Western sanctions are lifted.
From RT, "Main gas pipeline to EU will be closed until sanctions lifted - Kremlin":
Start gathering anything that will burn, Europe.
And just what did Trump try to tell Merkel about Nordstream 2 ?
Something like, "Putin will own you."

pawian
6 Sep 2022  #2127

by announcing gas supplies to Europe through Nord Stream 1 will be halted

Excellent!!! It seems RuSSists are trying to blackmail us against their own interest. They are so stupid coz the situation is clear - we don`t need RuSSist fossils. While they need us as clients.

Shooting themselves in the head, shooting themselves in the head, la la la. . hahahahaha


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Novichok
6 Sep 2022  #2128

Ten times...hahahahaha...300%...Not 30%...300%...hahahahahaha...

jon357
6 Sep 2022  #2129

They are so stupid coz the situation is clear - we don`t need RuSSist fossils.

They can always sell to India and China. On Indian and Chinese terms. Forced sale is never a pretty sight.

While they need us as clients.

As do China of course.

johnny reb
6 Sep 2022  #2130

prices in Europe have surged almost 300% in 2022, breaking records.

Don't feel bad Eurons as biden has shut off our pipeline too making gas prices surge.

They can always sell to India and China.

Or trade China gas for weapons, oh wait, I think they already are.


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