Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 4

:):) What if this takes years???


Don`t be sily. There will be Russia - much smaller than now, having about 50 million people. The rest will go to other countries created on the dead body of current Russian Empire.

Don`t lose hope, then - you will still live in Russia if you are lucky. hahahaha

I have a good guess that the whole concept of "Oligarchy" the russian kind will come to an end with Putin. Russia will change greatly when the consequences of Putin's monstrous miscalculations will become obvious for everybody. There won't be that many possibilities for Russians anymore to get that rich...the world has become wary and will now look twice at any russian endeavours in their countries, also the sanctions will be in place for a long time, not to mention the reparations to pay....

So....there just won't be that many assets to "park" anymore!

Most of us didn't acquire our assets through murder, theft, bribes or threats. These oligarchs have little moral right to appeal to the laws of civilized countries.

Even generations. Oil will be oil always, and we would salute switching to green nuclear power for general use and leaving natural hydrocarbons as a feedstock for chemical synthesis.


Poland once tried to become one of beneficiaries in planning division of Russia. Even trained on Czechoslovakia little bit. With their British masters blocked all attempts to create anti-Hitler coalition, and... Suddenly... Stalin tired of all brainfcuk of clown parades and after a single phone call plane with Ribbentrop come to Moscow. Very soon, it become one Poland less on Europe political map.

You want to throw away world structure agreed on Yalta conference? Be prepared to remember that last period of Polish statehood is part of this agreements.


So, you declare that "western" laws is for chosen people only?

@Bratwurst Boy
Incorrect. Most money parked in the middle east, where there are no sanctions. The billions that are frozen dont even represent 30% of what is held by oligarchs. They will never go broke. So much cash hidden in places that it can never be touched. Thinking that sanctions will break them is pretty naive.

Sanctions weren't a reason against parking before the Ukraine War.....

Oligarchs want safe spaces for their money.....only laws can give them that, no dictatorship/kingdom with one rule-them-all top can match the EU or the US for example in that regard. Also the chinese party head wouldn't have to ask around should he want some of these assets suddenly....


Why not? What remains from such a stinky rich Oligarch once he can't get to his money? How long can he live off of his reputation of being "stinky rich"?

Cyprus is the safe haven of many oligarchs, along with the Maldives. Lots of money hidden there. The oligarchs are not hurting for cash and they wont. They all set up legitimate business through shell companies around the world that are near impossible to get to the bottom of. They also keep tons of actual cash in multiple locations. Dubai is another great place for them, and Dubai doesn't GAF about any sanctions.

Meanwhile in Ukraine 500 Russian troops were either killed or wounded in a hit near Chulakivka. The second such hit in the new year. Lots of Russian boys dying in their sleep for little Vlad's invasion. Look for the marshal law plan and conscription to take place in the next few days. If you are an able bodied man in Russia you had better already be on your way out of the country or you wont be getting out unless its to Ukraine.

So if Russia first invaded Ukrainian territory, it is now Ukraine's turn to invade Russian territory.

Do you have any problem with that?

a report on generalsvr a few weeks ago siad that over 85% was completely unusuable... russians are bumblers and tend toward incompetence so the likelihood that they can maintain things like a nuclear arsenal (when the national sport is theft) is..... not high....


It was and is and will be Ukrainian territory... perverted russian fantasies are as irrelevant as the voices in putain's head....

New "historical reality" is unfolded by ukrainian "center of special psychological operations" in social networks. Now, according to "newly found witnesses" it was not UPA who butchered polish villages. It was Russians, dressed to UPA uniform. Then same Russians, dressed in Polish uniform, later butchered ukrainian villages. ;) And UPA and Bandera with Shukhevich is white and furry. ;)

Irony is that many activities of ukrainian CSPO (including fraudulent phone calls to steal banking information) is performed from Polish territory (or, at least, through servers, located there).

@Velund, do you have any proof to support your claims? Any link?

Already suspended by new twitter administration - twitter.com/ArinaKa82957366

But screenshots survived...

twitter.com/antique_gosling/status/1610165970206703616

Similar "narrative" was also seen on Facebook and different forums.

@Velund, but where's the proof that Ukrainian "center of special psychological operations" has anything to do with those comments?


It's no different than the narrative of some of the Polish nationalists or even right-wingers about pogroms on Jews committed by Poles. They like to blame "others" for that too, whether the Nazis, "the communists", or even NKVD. Trust me, no Polish "center of special psychological operations" has anything to do with this lol It's typical blame-shifting. People simply don't want their nation to be viewed as "monsters".

They are very realistic about him.

Ukraine, as a democratic nation with a wide variety of opinions (which unlike in r*SSia they are not afraid to express) about that difficult chapter in their history and about Bandera himself.

A shame that you're trying to talk about political extremes during a very dark part of the twentieth century, with most of the darkness caused in one way or another by r*SSia and their Nazi allies.


So tell is about Glavset, about the Internet Research Agency and all the other r*SSian "centres of psychological operations", the ones that they spend literally billions on.

Wow! That's maskirovka on a galactic level! I knew Russians were cunning but I didn't know they were that cunning! ;)

@GefreiterKania
You give them too much credit. They are not smart. They just proved their idiocy by housing soldiers next to an ammo dump. Brilliant!

Me? Hell no. Or did you get some retarded idea that I support Ruskies?
My post was supposed to be sarcastic, some retards (aka Ziemowit) may have not noticed it, though.


Countries are increasingly struggling with the complexity of new designs and getting them into large scale production. The F-35 is a great fighter jet, that is entering mass production with more than 875 already built, even if it took more time and money than estimated.

Russia's problems are on a whole other scale. They are not only failing to design new projects and get them into production. They are also losing the capacity to build what they were previously able to build.

Where it prove its "greatness" with opponent of more advanced level than "afghan wedding"?

Looks like we will be witnesses of great competition soon. ;) Iranian-designed and russian-built ~$20k kamikaze drone vs much advertised $many_millions Patriot system. ;)

Stop lying. No Iranian drones are built in Russia yet - it is a long way before Russians are able to do it. Currently all drones are imported from Iran.

19 December
A Ukrainian senior intelligence official says Russia has received a new shipment of Iranian-made Shahed-136 kamikaze drones from the Islamic Republic of Iran.
According to Ukraine's defense intelligence (GUR) spokesman Andriy Yusov, the new shipment is smaller than the previous one sometime in the summer that is estimated to have included at least 400 UAVs.

Ukrainian intelligence said too much nonsense in last months, to be believed blindly. ;)

Is correct in case of Iranian drones. Russians aren`t able to start the production so quickly - the initiation of the process takes months if not years. And the first time when Iranian drones were used and proved quite effective was in September. 3 months is too early for Russians.

That is why I said: stop lying which elegantly put means stop spreading Kremlin misinformation. :):):)

If there was 20 thousand bucks washing around in Russia to build a drone then the factory owner would just steal that money and buy a new watch or a car for his daughter

What Russia has to fight with is 1980s clobber that hasnt been serviced since Andropov was in charge

Unfortunately, I just watched a CBS report on parts made in the US making their way to Russia through China, Vietnam and other third countries and they are being used in drones. Very disappointing. More disappointing is that none of the companies had the balls to respond to the CBS inquiries.

That said, I have to admit I am growing tired of Z asking for more and more armored vehicles and newer weapons from the US. Not because he is asking, but by how he asks and how he speaks. This quote from yesterday for instance; "There is no rational reason why Ukraine has not yet been supplied with Western tanks,"

The man speaks like the US is just supposed to send whatever TF he asks for when he asks for it and that is pretty Fing disrespectful in my opinion. Its not the first time he says things like this either. The US probably has many rational reasons for not sending whatever Ukraine asks for, and it doesn't matter what those reasons are. While every democracy should be assisting to defend Ukraine from this imperialist war, it is not everyone's responsibility to deplete their own defensive resources without regard to what their own country needs or may need.

Somebody here was just ejaculating into the ceiling from the news of the possible seizure and confiscation of Russian assets in favor of Ukraine.

Here is today's post by Vyacheslav Volodin, Chairman of the State Duma.

Germany is looking for new problems.
And of a long-term nature.

Recently, former German Chancellor Merkel confessed how she and former French President Hollande deceived the international community. By signing the Minsk agreements, they had no intention of abiding by them, but only used them to militarize the Kiev regime and prepare it for military action against the civilians of Donbas and Crimea.

It is clear that the European states (Washington washes its hands of such situations) will have to pay for what is happening in Ukraine. First and foremost, Germany and France.

Not only because their economies are the strongest in the European Union (it is clear that the Baltic countries and some other EU states have nothing to take from them - they can only provide a noise information curtain).

Merkel and Hollande are the figures who, by sabotaging the Minsk agreements, are in the eyes of the world public the culprits of the conflict in Ukraine.

Today, the German government has decided to shift the problems that their predecessors created onto our country. To this end, they plan to seize Russian assets to rebuild Ukraine.

As soon as such a decision takes place, we are entitled to similar actions against the assets of Germany and other states.

Life is now in a different reality: not only according to the UN Charter, but also based on precedents. In this connection it is right to recall the situation with the recognition of Kosovo's independence. The U.S., Germany, France and other states that made this decision have no choice but to accept the right of South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Crimea, the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics, and the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions to self-determination.

There are no electoral decisions, the rules must be the same for everyone. The same goes for the seizure of money and property.

This will start a process whereby all states will ignore international law and take what they see fit at their own discretion.

Germany's leaders should remember from their own country's history how attempts to encroach on someone else's property have ended.

Good. Let the sanctions last for ever! hahahaha

Meanwhile, in the real world.... russia continues its ever accelerating descent in madness.....

Solovev tells russians they should be happy to die (hey guys... if you insist.... I won't stop you)

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1609946945014874112

Also, kremlin controlled tv (there is no other tv in russia at present) rang in the new year with a deranged display celebrating genocide and death...

twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1610847276561317892

And another reminder of what the country that is richest in natural resources chooses to do with that immense potential wealth..... live in garbage dumps and invade other countries....

twitter.com/solarisveritas/status/1610288463949213699

russia is an inferiro cesspit because russian culture is a cesspit of self-pity and aggression....

@Velund
Quoting from a dead man who is still waiting to hang the capitalists? It's only been over 100 years since opinions were expressed. Good thing no one held their breath waiting for that prediction to come to pass. Another saying that we had in the United States was that Communism was a beautiful theory that could never be done in practice. This has been proven time and again and we have Russia to thank for proving this. Hurry along back to the troll farm, you don't want to miss your free lunch. Rock soup with some salted black bread and all the caviar you can eat must be excellent, you know since you can't even export caviar. LMAO What a loser of a country.

One might suddenly think that you are quoting someone alive, while masturbating to sacred words with a thoroughly forgotten meaning... Like "democracy"... ;)

@Velund
Again you show your fascination with c0cks of the western variety. It's ok, we understand the Russian mentality is based upon the genetic shortcomings in every Russian male. It explains the whole decades long steroids cheating scandals in both men and women athletes from Russia. The female Russian athletes have bigger c0cks than the men. They would probably do a lot better in Ukraine than the men are doing since they are clearly smarter.

In the war, more of your comrades were liquidated today. Turkey telling Putin its time to stop is a bad sign for little Vlad. If little Vlad doesn't have Turkey in the future, its going to be a very difficult position for him. Imagine Turkey stopping the use of gas and oil when winter is over. lmfao That would be beautiful.