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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5



PolAmKrakow
3 Feb 2023  #271

@Novichok
I dont post bull$hit videos from propaganda outlets. But you just suck all of them up. You claim to be an intellectual and try to make intellectual arguments but you rely on retarded sources. Whats that say?

Korvinus
3 Feb 2023  #272

New sanctions incoming + an EU embargo and global price cap on Russian refined oil products.

Global oil markets are bracing for more upheaval in the next couple of weeks after the European Union bans all Russian refined oil products in retaliation for the war in Ukraine. Starting Sunday, the 27-nation bloc will prohibit imports of Russian gasoline, diesel and other products used throughout Europe.

At the same time, the Group of Seven advanced countries and allies will institute a global price cap on Russian refined oil products. That will bar access to ships, marine insurers and services unless the refined oil products are purchased for a price at or below an agreed limit. A similar system went into effect for Russian crude oil in December.


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Novichok
3 Feb 2023  #273

You claim to be an intellectual and try to make intellectual arguments but you rely on retarded sources.

I seldom rely on sources but when I do I use those I trust. Like Pravda or RT - the outlets that on the integrity scale beat the lying crap from the West every day. I will not list them since you already know what they are.

pawian
3 Feb 2023  #274

I seldom rely on sources but when I do I use those I trust. Like Pravda or RT

You speak like a true bolshevik who doesn`t know other media than old communist Pravda. Why did you escape from communist Poland in 1960s? You could have made a great career with your views. :):):) Comunism collapsed in 1989 here. You could have enjoyed life as a bolshevik apparatchik for more than 20 years..... :) :):):)

Novichok
3 Feb 2023  #275

You speak like a true bolshevik.

No, like an American who read WP, NYT, LAT and watched ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, and NPR. I won't even mention British garbage like the Guardian and Sun. Daily Mail is very good and reports things the Bolshevik outlets I just mentioned often skip. Like the Ukrainian casualties. Those are never mentioned.

pawian
3 Feb 2023  #276

Like the Ukrainian casualties. Those are never mentioned

Ukrainian media mention Russian losses only. Russian media, including bolshevik Pravda, mention Ukrainian losses only. Yet, you openly admit you prefer Russian media. Isn`t it amassing bias on your part???

Novichok
3 Feb 2023  #277

Ukrainian media mention Russian losses only. Russian media, including bolshevik Pravda, mention Ukrainian losses only.

You forgot that, according to PF Russia haters, Russia is a "tyranny", Putin a "dictator", Ukraine a shining "democracy", and Z a beloved cuddly leader.

pawian
3 Feb 2023  #278

Russia is a "tyranny", Putin a "dictator",

Yes, true.

Ukraine a shining

Where was it said it is shining? Sources, please.

Z a beloved cuddly leader.

Stop lying. Nobody said cuddly. We called him a heroic statesman.

Novi, I noticed that whenever you run out of sound arguments and feel cornered with our matter of fact ones, you resort to lies. Can you do sth with it?

Velund
3 Feb 2023  #279

Where was it said it is shining?

It was "stinking" maybe?

BTW: How you determine that Putin is a dictator?

mafketis
3 Feb 2023  #280

a true bolshevik

Should travelled east rather than west.... he hates everything about America (turning against it viciously when it's not operating just exactly as he wants) and sucks up to enemies.... a disgusting piece of garbage....

pawian
3 Feb 2023  #281

How you determine that Putin is a dictator?

Funny question. Tell us, what happens to Russians who publicly protest against the war? Every day I read about decent Russians who are detained or sentenced to prison coz they showed their disapproval of Putin`s policy. It is pure dictatorship when people are banned to speak what they think.

Any other questions?? Feel free to ask them. I will be really happy to help you and satisfy your curiosity..

Velund
3 Feb 2023  #282

Tell us, what happens to Russians who publicly protest against the war?

I thought you are a Pole, not a Jew, to reply by question to a question. But anyway...

Variant 1. Publicly protest against the war without throwing a sh*t (for example by quoting something "very special" like fcuked toddlers from "reliable" sources like Meduza) to Russian Army. Nothing happens.

Variant 2. Same but with some dirt (without readiness to prove that words with all judical correctness) poured on Russian Army. It depends, but sentence to a couple of years in prison may easily happen.

pawian
3 Feb 2023  #283

Nothing happens.

Really? It is enough when you go to a memorial of Ukrainian war victims and lay flowers at it to be detained and fined.

The police in Moscow arrested 4 people at a spontaneous memorial to the victims of the January 14 Russian missile strike in the Ukrainian city of Dnipro. Officers detained two people who were laying flowers and two others nearby. Flowers and toys had been brought to the unauthorized memorial site, with a photo placed depicting the destroyed apartment complex in Dnipro, where at least 45 people died.

Velund!
Stop lying like a dog.

In old Poland liars had to crawl under the table and bark out their lies: Whoof! Whoof! Whoof! Do it now - where is the nearest table?

Velund
3 Feb 2023  #284

Stop lying.

You are asked about legitimate protest. Not about participation in a unauthorised public action that normally require approval from local authorities. No difference - is it about Ukraine or about climate change...

pawian
3 Feb 2023  #285

unauthorised public action that normally require approval from local authorities.

Exactly. Laying flowers at citizens` private site of commemoration requires approval from the authorities. Without it, you are arrested. What is it if not dictatorship??

No difference

Liar, liar! Repeat: Whoof! Whoof! Whoof! hahahaha

That was just one example, the mildest one. While critisizing the Red aka Russian Army`s dirty deeds in Ukraine entails a few year years of imprisonment.

Velund
3 Feb 2023  #286

Laying flowers at citizens` private site of commemoration requires approval

No. And single picket with a judically correct plackard does not require approval. Memorial of any form in a public place does require approval, as well as a meeting in a public place. You can do it all in a private property, and nobody will complain.

Novichok
3 Feb 2023  #287

Having wrong views is excusable. Being a blockhead is not.

By now, the Western scum openly admits, almost brags, that all their agreements and promises were just delaying tactics to arm Ukraine and to weaken Russia by provoking it into a military conflict. Instead of "oops", the Russia hating idiots here ignore their own scum and their confessions - equivalent to a child protestation when told there is no Santa.

Yes, children, your Western "democratic" leaders are lying scumbags. Always were and always will be - from Vietnam and Iraq till now.

pawian
3 Feb 2023  #288

You are asked about legitimate protest.

Legitimate, you say? How can a protest against the war be legitimate in Russia if the authorities ban them altogether?? If anybody filed a request to the authorities for a legitimate protest, they would be arrested instantly.

And single picket with a judically correct plackard does not require approval.

Liar!~There were cases when people were standing in streets with small pieces of paper and they were arrested.

My advice - stop lying in this forum. You have no chance against decent people here who will always call you out on your lies. Whoof whoof whoof! hahahaha

Miloslaw
3 Feb 2023  #289

Not about participation in a unauthorised public action that normally require approval

And that is why you don't live in a free country.
Russians have never truly experienced freedom.
It is their loss.

Velund
3 Feb 2023  #290

with small pieces of paper

Can you quote (as an example) content of this "small pieces of paper"?

pawian
3 Feb 2023  #291

content of this "small pieces of paper"?

The content was zero, the piece of paper was empty, nevertheless the woman or the man in another situation were arrested!!! This is the true face of dictatorship in Russia!

Watch how the regime police are questioning the man why he is holding the piece of empty paper. Then he is brutally arrested.

youtu.be/TbzV1it1YPY

Russia is such a fekked up country for its citizens. For us, Poles, but also Ukrainians, you are a Gulag country. Is it clear now why nobody in this part of Europe wants to have anything in common with you? Fekk off and stay in Asia where you mentally belong.

PS. What lies will you offer to us about the video?

Novichok
4 Feb 2023  #292

Just a reminder...Crimea was never Ukraine. It was Russian until the drunk a-holes in Moscow gave it to Ukraine in the fifties.

GefreiterKania
4 Feb 2023  #293

the drunk a-holes in Moscow (...) in the fifties

...as opposed to the sober a-holes in Moscow these days? :)

gave it to Ukraine

Einmal geben und wieder nehmen ist schlimmer als stehlen, as our German friends and neighbours wisely say.

Alien
4 Feb 2023  #294

sober a-holes in Moscow these days? :)

They are not sober, they have thousands of liters of good French wine.

PolAmKrakow
4 Feb 2023  #295

Watch out for Hypersonic missiles. Those things can be dangerous. Now with reports coming out that there has only been one real successful test of hypersonic missiles long range and it was done in China in 2021, doubt is being cast on little Vlads threats. Since these hypersonic missiles would need to travel at speeds of more than 3000 mph over long distances, the electronic components in these tests usually fail due to the heat generated at those speeds. All that flying time has the projections of these missiles landing mostly in the ocean if little Vlad wanted to try something on US mainland. This of course is only according to scientists and experts, you know, no one that any self respecting Putinazi coxucker would of course believe.

news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-for-all-its-political-bluster-the-invasion-has-shattered-russias-illusion-of-invincibility-12802136

Illusions. This is Russia. It is one big illusion. To its people and to the world. Little Vlad has continued the David Copperfield like tradition of making Russia appear to be something it is not. Russia is and always has been a $hit hole. Since 1917, Russia has been a toilet. Mismanaged, pilfered, and stripped of all its resources by the few, while the many live in $hit. Yes, comrades, your elites are nothing better than the Tsars of old. Nothing changed accept who got to rob the country. And thus the country of thieves and thugs continues its thieving and thuggery.

That is until they run into someone who is willing to fight back. Since little fag Vlad wants to do nothing more than take Ukraine's natural resource areas, it is just another thug stealing other peoples things. Every one of these Russian cowards eventually dies. Vlad is just another dead man walking. Three days, ummmm sorry I mean nearly a year later, little Orcs are being greeted with bullets and not the flowers little Vlad expected. Yep, nothing says successful leadership like an idiot who after a year of getting his a$$ handed to him, still refuses to offer a ceasefire. Nothing says stupid, more than those who continue to support this mental midget. Happy gulag biatches!

Velund
4 Feb 2023  #296

Then he is brutally arrested.

No. First it got caution about two local laws he broke and offer to stop violation immediately. Once he failed to abide, it was subjected to administrative detention and conveyance to the police station.

Arrest is another procedure, made by court order.

By the way, it does not look brutal, German police in Berlin act much harder in similar incidents. ;)

I hope you got your answer. Now returning back to my question - How you determine that Putin is a dictator? Please, without further Jewish-style ass-whooping and other unrelated questions.

mafketis
4 Feb 2023  #297

ussians have never truly experienced freedom

russians hate the concept of freedom and don't have the first idea of what to do with it which is why they always turn to blood-soaked dictatorships.

russia is a like a mansion inhabitated by insane people who set fires in it and throw crap at their neighbors.... mental incompetents

more sober-minded people need to take over, ultimately it will be better for the inhabitatants, though being incompetent, they will resist but if you shout at them loud enough and beat one or two up then the rest will fall in line

PolAmKrakow
4 Feb 2023  #298

@Velund
A Dictator was appointed by Yeltsin, not elected. A dictator then rigged laws that allowed him to stay in control in through two different offices for the last 20 years. A dictator who then again just recently had laws changed so he could potentially remain in power for another ten years. A dictator who has all his opponents killed or jailed. A dictator who has false flag operations done upon his own people in order to create a need for military action in another country in order to maintaining the illusion of control and power.

Putin is a dictator and all the Duma is a bunch of coxuckers who are gutless to stand up and do what is right for the people. Followed by the rest of the oligarchs who do nothing but rob the people and the country. Followed by the idiot citizens who are to lazy or stupid to stand up for themselves while their country, the resources they own are plundered by the elites.

Welcome to Russia. Where what is yours is not yours, and what is mine is mine and I am taking yours too. If you are not sure if you would like to continue in this personnel and property management program, please line up against the south wall and await further instructions.

GefreiterKania
4 Feb 2023  #299

How you determine that Putin is a dictator?

1. His political opponents are either in prison under phony charges or had unfortunate accidents involving windows.

2. The list of journalists killed during his reign...

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... is significantly longer than the list of times that Novi has had unobstructed bowel movement in the last 20 years.

3. Despite the fact that a large percentage of his country's population lives in abject poverty, he managed to amass obscene wealth (typical of dictators).

pawian
4 Feb 2023  #300

First it got caution about two local laws he broke and offer to stop violation immediately.

Exactly. Dictatorships invent various absurd laws to oppress people who disagree with dictatorial policies.
Russia is a police state dictatorship coz you can`t stand in the street with a blank piece of paper. Show me another country fekked up like that.


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