Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

I'm impressed. Probably you should allow your trainer to work more on your ass - maybe even 2000 will pass there then, without much pain. ;)

If we go by the leaked numbers than Russia is at this point probably close to 100.000 killed soldiers. If the war continues at this rate, then Russia will in due time have lost more soldiers in this war than the USA has in all its' wars since 1945.

Just a reminder to anyone who thinks that Putin is doing such a good job for his country.

@amiga500
LMFAO

All the Russian supporters should maybe be a little worried about Xi's call with Z yesterday. Xi genuinely wants to play a major part in ending the war, and its looking like he will. Meanwhile the US is putting together "plan B" in the event the Ukraine offensive is not successful. What is plan B? Likely just giving Crimea up and getting the rest of the land back. All the dead for Crimea? Could this be possible? If it were to happen, this war would reach completely new levels of stupidity.

What Xi genuinely wants is money back for Motor Sich factory, purchased by Chinese investor and then nationalized by Ukraine without compensation after command from DC. ;)

It was nationalized as part of defence efforts against drunk invaders. That is common in wartime - Chinese investors can have it back after the war.

As for where Muscovy's western border will be, then it certainly won't be anywhere near Poland. Krolowiec will also be placed under international administration as part or the Muscovite surrender.

When is Bakhmut going to be captured ? No essays, just a date

@Velund
You are completely blinded by years of indoctrination. Xi wants Siberia and has a claim to it legally since Russia took it from China through a series of illegal treaties in the 1800's. Xi wants it back and he will get it. A weakend Russia is great for China because China now has a new biatch. Russia is begging for friends and trade partners. Without China it is dead. Xi is now deciding on which benefits him more Siberia or Taiwan.

If a total embargo for all exports to Russia happens, you wont even be able to buy a used set of tires. Right now Russia can still import used cars and other items, which they are canabalizing for other needs. If a full blockade happens, Russia is nothing in less than six months. This is exactly why Russia just nationalized two companies yesterday. Little Vlad thinks it will make a difference, but it wont.

That is a novel way of debating...saying something totally stupid and criticizing your own stupid comment.
No, U, if it continues to even exist, is not getting any part of CDL back - just as Mexico is not getting any part of Cali, New Mexico, or Texas back.


...but your mind is so perfectly impervious to what you hear or read.

How about dropping personal comments and insults?

I noticed a certain pattern here...All Ukraine's accomplishments are in the future and all Russia's failures are preceded by "if". As in if X happens, then Russia will suffer Y.


If the sun quits shining over Russia, Russians will starve to death. There...I can do it, too.

Nostradamus must be green with envy.

@Novichok
New levels of stupidity for those who dont fully understand English is quite simple to define. If Russia lost all of these men only to have Crimea become theirs officially in a negotiated peace would be a new level of stupidity. Understood? Great. Class dismissed, now go take your nap.

All the future accomplishments of Ukraine? Like which ones exactly are being talked about? Other than rebuilding, and becomeing more western, not much else is being said. They are in the future because that is what Ukraine has, a futue. Russia has one as well, only not so nice.

But lets keep using stupid comparisons like Mexico and Cali or Texas. Brilliant really. Maybe we should compare some of the Roman wars while we are at it? All the tough talk about not getting their lands back when news is just out that 98% of all the hardware, tanks, and ammunition promised to Ukraine is now in Ukraine. LEts see how these next 8 weeks go for the Russians. Those same Russians that already abandoned a military base in Crimea and who are backing away from the eastern banks. My money is on Russia remaining the number one country in dying.

I thought that was your whole style!

Yes, it's brilliant. You have no counterargument and your sarcasm is simply an act of desperation.
In case you can't see the similarity... It's a dog-eat-dog world out there, my dear sweet PAK: The US took Cali and Texas then. Russia took CDL now. Tough sh*it.

Except for one little detail: Russia took action after 14,000 Russians died from artillery fire by "the peaceful and democratic" Ukraine, the country that told its Russian minority to convert or get out.

Not nice but they complied, took their land with them, and asked Russia to protect it and Russians from "the peaceful and democratic" Ukraine. Now, dear children, you know what led to the 2022 war. All the rest is noise from Russia haters.

BTW, why didn't the US and the UN peacekeepers help the DL freedom fighters?

Oh, and that NATO thingy...

Indeed. Any eventual gains Russia may achieve in this war must always be compared to what it could have achieved without the war and its' costs.

Putin could have made a deal with Western leaders in January and February 2022 that would have prevented Ukraine from joining NATO while retaining Crimea, D and L. All without costing Russia a single soldier and the other negative consequences of the war.


Not sure why you insist on spreading such obvious lies on a forum that is frequented by people who all have the necessary insight and interest in Ukraine and Eastern Europe to debunk them.

Those 14.000 were mostly Ukrainians (and some Russian mercenaries) who died because of Russia's attempts to destabilize Ukraine.

@Novichok
Indeed, the actions of the US with Mexico more than 150 years ago are so relevant. LOL Maybe we should go back to when Mexico had a decade long war with Spain, and revert all of North America to the Spanish? Fvcking idiocy arguments. No modern comparison with Russia. Maybe the Louisiana purchase should be void? Of course Russia wants Alaska back. And all of Scandinavia should pay reparations to Europe for their Viking crimes.

Now, since we all want to make idiotic arguments. We can go back to Ukraine processing the dog food that is the Russian army. Did someone say spring offensive? Coming to a battlefield near you. Happy gulag biatches!

You keep comparing the powerful organized USA with the impotent, amateur Muscovy and it makes no sense.

Even in the Mexican-American war the US had better weapons and tactics than the dipsomaniac Muscovy army has in 2023. Add to that the fact that the people of DNR and LNR are desperate to return to Ukraine now and there is really no comparison.

spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-russland-news-heute-akw-saporischschja-sandsackstellungen-auf-reaktor-daechern-a-3ca4476f-9cb4-4b05-bcfd-b4e4536bd41c

Kiev has received hundreds of tanks from the West, says NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg. The troops are now in a "strong position". .....

Now lets see....

Yes but most of those tanks are soviet era afaik, I think only about 50-60 Leopards and the 14 Challengers.

Tell dat to XEPCOH.....

They are relevant to the extent that the US - a beneficiary of its own violence - has no moral right to grandstand on top of the High Moral Ground and preach peace and democracy to others, Russia included.

Since you mentioned 150 years to justify violence against Mexico, how many years must elapse to justify Russia's annexation of Crimea?
Based on your post, the number must be between 150 and 8.

150?

I would say never.

How about 9?
Joke aside, PAK stuck his neck out by dismissing a 150-year-old violation as too old and claiming that an 8-year-old case is within his version of the statute of limitations.

So I am naturally curious about the expiration date when Russia's sin which is a direct copy of ours will become a virtue.

@Novichok

The annexation of another nation or part of it can never be justified.
How would you feel if Canada annexed Ilinois?

Considering that Illinois is the worst state of the Union...
I would be thrilled if Canada annexed Illinois. Then the US army would finally have the pretext to attack Canada and make it the 51st state - sans referendum.

If I were a Ukrainian, I would love to become a Russian and be able to sing the best national anthem ever composed.

In a room full of idiots staying sane is hard.
I feel sorry for Poland and I like Islam more and more...

Moscow has warned throughout the conflict that mercenaries are not viewed as combatants under international law and "the best thing that awaits them if they are captured alive is a trial and maximum prison terms."

What is the worst thing? Please tell me it's an execution...I really don't like when Russia goes mellow.

@Novichok
Of course lets not consider the thinking of governments of the new world 150 years ago in this discussion. Lets not consider how the world and people have evolved and thinking has evolved in the last 150 years. Your arguments are nonsensical and outdated. Spain is calling to reclaim the US, and the French want their portion of North America back as well. Newsflash.....those who support idiocy in Russia are actually idiots. Not me saying it, just the rest of the civilized world.

Meanwhile in the real war, Russia is moving civilians out of Crimea. First the military base is evacuated then civilians. They must think there is trouble ahead. All that new equipment in Ukraine, not the old soviet bull$hit, but all the new stuff is getting prepared for a big push. Reports of 40K newly trained professional Ukraine soldiers ready for the fight. New equipment in the hands of really well trained soldiers means lots of dead Russian boys. Brilliant war strategy this little Vlad has.

You 2 guys being more worried about the Ukraine than what is happening to our own country.

Where is the EU? They dont do $hit!

The Challengers, Leos and T90s are still waitingbfor the Americian friends called Abrams to come and play with them.

The Russian way of life in Donetsk. Water for two hours every third day. Indeed, the Russian way of life brought to Donetsk is so wonderful that residents can get water twice a week! Bravo! Little Vlad said he would make these occupied regions part of Russia and he sure has. Right to the point of making flushing a toilet next to impossible. At least though Ukraine has toilets, and Russians are still waiting for theirs.

The eutopian way of Russian living is the chief export of Russia today. You too could be showering once every few days and have clean clothes once a month. Combine that with the stone and evergreen branch soup and you have a lifestyle fit for Russian royalty. Unfortunately these luxuries also have some downside. When they say to eat a $hit sandwich, they actually mean you will be eating a $hit sandwich. Happy gulag dumbasses!

Interesting talk with russia expert Stephen Kotkin, not too long and can be listened to while doing other things....

youtube.com/watch?v=dTXEmz6nJGk

Yet another expert who rejects the "it was NATO!" argument....

Basic idea is: russia sees itself as a special society with a special mission but its realworld capabilities don't come close to matching its ambitions....

So you get the paradoz of the russian government ceaselessly criticizing 'the West' while simultaneously being completely dependent on the West

lots more interesting stuff...

Or, in simple folks' words, wyżej sra niż dupę ma (sh*ts higher than its arse is).