Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

I am glad that the swamp is doing what's best for the swamp. What upsets me is that we, US taxpayers, are being ripped off in the process and that useful idiots like Ukraine and Poland are aiding and abetting the robbery.

My bet is still that Russia will give up what it has a week after the US gives Cali and Texas back to Mexico. You do trust Putin, don't you...

What upsets you is that the HIV-ridden world centre for abortions, divorce and abandoned children...



... that you love so much is not allowed to invade neighbouring countries, behead prisoners and rape children as you would like them to be. Tough sh*t, Rysiek.

That's their problem, not mine. There are 190 countries out there and only 24 hours...Tough sh*it...


You, Poles, know it but continue supporting the war that makes it possible. That makes you war criminals.

Oh, but it is your problem, as long as you're trying to portrait them as "last white hope", anti-LGBT Christian bastion.


You, neither-Pole neither-American, support and justify the aggressors who started the war, even when they murder children or behead prisoners. I don't even know what that makes you but that makes me want to vomit.

Kazakhs, Azeris, Turkmens, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Armenians, as well as Poles, Estonians, Romanians, Latvians and Lithuanians, had similar historical relations with Russians. They were all under the Russian state/domination.

Most likely, this is the reason for the hatred of Russians by Poles, Baltic nations and Romanians, but the question arises why, although they have the same reason, the Central Asian peoples, then Armenians and Azeris, do not have the same hatred for Russians?

The answer lies in the fact that the haters are influenced by the West, and the non-haters are not. Ergo, it is the West that is incredibly capable of installing hatred in certain peoples against certain peoples. It is simply unbelievable that the Poles forgave the Germans everything, and they cannot forgive the Russians for anything, but they persistently maintain and increase their hatred.

A part of Poles, probably a larger one, swallows everything that comes from the West (Vatican, Vienna, Germany, EU) and that is how this hatred towards Russians arose.

Germany admitted its sins and some kind of restitution was made.

russia has never admitted its sins and no restitution was made, and worse... after WWII Polish state institutions were forced to publicly repeat obvious pro-russian lies for decades.

that's the difference.... and "the West" is awesome! Many times better than the feudal and primitive russian sphere....

the countries that don't hate russia are simply too backward and unevolved, rising civic engagement means turning against russian despotism.... like Armenia which has begun its own process of disengagement from the 'russian sphere of influence'....

Here's a summary: Russia good, the West bad, Poland traitors.

@Crnogorac3
Anyone who voluntarily wants to live a Russian lifestyle or within the Russian system is a fvcking retard. Only a mental midget would make that choice, or a person incapable of surviving on their own. Serbia on the other hand is a wonderful country, just ask all the Americans that go there for "vacation". If only Serbia could export their women they could afford some new donkeys for the men to sleep with.

@GefreiterKania
Basically what Russians ought to think regardless of perceptions truth or reality

@Crnogorac3

Brilliant hypothesis! I could never understand why Poles are such bootlickers of the British and Americans, but now it all makes sense.

It's simply embarrassing for the Poles to live under Russians. We are a daily reminder to them, of how they flushed their youth and good looks down the toilet.

Your example of Hungary being much less Russophobic despite a similar history was perfect. I feel much better now, after having understood that Polish hate for Russia is nothing but the reverse side of the medal of brotherhood. After all, the first murder in history was Cain killing Abel.

@Bobko
You are correct, it would be an embaressment and problematic to having to lie all the time too.

Besides interrelations between slavs will have a degree of rivalry, other relationships not so much.

Poles rival czechs for most important West slavs, Poles rival Russians and Ukrainians for Slavs in general while Russians rival Ukrainians for among east slavs

Haha - a good joke!

Based on the comments of Ukrainians under news articles online, the competition is definitely taking place (from at least one of the sides).

Things I learned from Ukrainians:

1) Ancient Ukropithecus excavated the Black Sea by hand, to create a coastline for beloved kraina.

2) Belarus and Russia are colonies of Ukraine. This one is tricky... On the one hand, Ukrainians want to proclaim that there was only one "Kievan Rus", on the other hand - the heart dictates that there must have been even then a glorious country called Ukraine. Those righteous souls that believe Ukraine existed even then, deservedly consider that Belarus and Russia were wild forestlands populated by Ugro-Finnic orcs that had to be tamed and civilized by the noble UKR-race.

3) Egyptians and Sumerians move to the side! Ukrainians are 140,000 years old as an ethnicity. The name of the ancient tribe was Ukri, and it is the origin of all Indo-European languages. Paradoxically, they also existed contemporaneously with the Goths, Huns, Scythians, and Sarmatians - all of whom got their ass kicked by Ukrainians. In general, Ukrainians don't find it strange that 75% of their historical textbooks are occupied by the Neolithic, Iron Age, and Bronze Age - while 75% of Russian textbooks deal with the last 5 centuries. Attaching an image of UKR textbook with 140K history below.

4) That Gogol, despite never writing a single piece of text in Ukrainian, is a "National Ukrainian Author".

5) That joining the Polish-Lithuanian Union was a forced measure, in reaction to threats from the Teutonic Knights and Muscovy.

6) The horse was domesticated in Ukraine. As well as the elephant, wooly rhinoceros, and Emu.

7) Ukrainian is rated as the "second most melodic and pleasing to the ear language in the world after Italian".

8) All the smart people in Moscow in Soviet times were Ukrainians, and that's why "bone-in-brain" Russians can't get anything to work right since 1991.

Two russian oligarch types were recorded having a conversation about the future.... they are not exactly optimistic....

twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1651197159054749696

The worst America has to offer is still better than the best russia has to offer....

As I already wrote - you have no idea what you're talking about.


First of all - Germans changed for better, while RuSSians didn't change. This is the main reason for differences in attitude towards Germans and RuSSians (not only among Poles).

Second of all - you're generalising. Some Poles are more inclined to forgive Germans, some less (PiS and their voters, for example).

@Novichok, Stalin ruled the USSR until he died in 1953. So, for a half of century the USSR was ruled not by Stalin. And yet, it was bad enough. And Putin and today's RuSSia are bad enough too. And getting worse, not better.

The Czech Republic has sanctioned RuSSian Patriarch Cyril:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/problemy-cyryla-jest-decyzja-czech-6891624199227968a

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@Novichok
Your posts concerning Russia are so far off the mark that you don't even come across as intelligent any more. Russia is a $hit hole turd world country. Nothing more nothing less. It is the white version of Iran. The only thing missing is religion controlling politics. Really, it offers nothing. You have never been there, and could not know how absolutely dependent Russian people are on western products and how they crave the western way of life. They live in fear. That is the country you praise? My dog is a better leader than little Vlad. At least my dog can find food, little Vlad cant even keep fake McDonalds operating at a profit. The wheels are falling off and you are hanging on to the bumper. Happy gulag you dumb mother fvckers!

Those gullible people don't even know what awaits them and how crooked that referendum was at 97% to join. Without the brutality of the Russian Army, that result would be 96%! Shame...

Memo to Russians anywhere: Americans like Russia. Trust me on this one.

Protests of wives of the 127th brigade
twitter.com/i/status/1649749261989322752

127th brigade 228th batallion say that for a year they're cannon fodder
twitter.com/i/status/1645776577773404168

The story of so-called missing
twitter.com/i/status/1645776933035098112

Stop ukrainization of Poland
twitter.com/i/status/1651093077316993026

In the whole of Bulgaria the other day protests against NATO, yesterday in Italy in Torino... hardly any media coverage because it doesn't suit them...

Bulgaria
twitter.com/i/status/1650231572619042819

Torino
twitter.com/i/status/1650998254128226304

Judging by that big banner at the protest it was organised by Konfederacja. According to the latest poll this political party has 12% of support in Poland - hardly a majority :))

Still way more than Navalny in Russia even in their best times.

@Velund, are you sure about that?:

statista.com/statistics/1109765/attitude-toward-activity-of-alexei-navalny-russia/

"According to a survey conducted in February 2022, 14 percent Russians approved of the political activity of the opposition leader Alexei Navalny"

And 20% approved of Navalny's political activity in September 2020.

Survey probably was conducted at one of actions of Navalny staff - 20% of activists, 80% of people who passed nearby and come to look at free circus of idiots. ;)

@Velund, you can't disapprove of the survey just because you don't like the results - that's childish and hypocritical :)

I see what is around me - and you'll hardly find 20% Navalny supporters even between pretty brainwashed and "fronding" youths of Moscow. Between people in their 40-th and older it drops almost to zero, even in Moscow.

Yes,but that is the point.
Nobody in your country feels free to express themselves openly.
In Russia, I would trust an anonymous survey much more than "talk on the street".

@Milo, yes, exactly.


Your family, friends and acquaintances or even co-workers aren't enough to make a judgement, imho. If I were to judge by what I see around me I would conclude that Konfederacja has zero support in Poland (I literally don't know anyone in real life who supports this party and haven't heard about anyone who does), which is clearly not the case.

Judging by the numbers of people protesting against Navalny's arrest and calling for his release Navalny seems to have more supporters in RuSSia than Konfederacja in Poland:

theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/21/top-navalny-aides-arrested-protests-jailed-opposition-leader-russian-police-moscow

Especially if you consider that the whole of RuSSian state propaganda machine and the state apparatus was against Navalny and if you take into account all the repercussions that people protesting in RuSSia faced. Konfederacja is free to protest in Poland and their supporters face no repercussions for protesting.

Also, I trust the Levada Center more than your anecdotal experience, Velund, sorry :):

levada.ru/en/2022/03/16/the-case-of-alexey-navalny/


That was in 2020. In 2022 it was 14%.

Excellent point. Just like here against Trump.

You, Russia haters, can tallk all you want about side issues and what keeps you warm.
The only open question is where Russia's Western border will be when the dust settles: at the Western edge of D and L, on the Dnieper River, or the Polish border.

In the meantime, have fun counting Western tanks.
BTW, the kill ratio is now 8 dead Ukrainians to 1 dead Russian and you are morally responsible for it.

What is it? Out-of-ass-number-pulling competition? :) Cool...

The kill ratio in now 1000 dead Russians to 1 dead Ukrainian. See? I pulled a higher number out of my ass - I win. :D