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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5



Novichok
1 May 2023  #3151

Did Russia put sanctions on the US? If not, why are our banks dropping like flies?

Novichok
1 May 2023  #3152

The Russian military has launched a large-scale missile attack against Ukraine's military industry, disrupting production of weaponry and munitions, the Defense Ministry said on Monday.

"...the Russian Armed Forces of the Russian Federation launched a group missile attack with long-range precision weapons, air and sea based, on the military-industrial complex of Ukraine," the ministry said during its daily media briefing, adding that "all assigned targets were hit."


Those damn Russians ...Instead of AK-47s, the cowards use missiles. Shame...They must be so desperate while watching Ukraine winning.

Hey, Z, hang in there till your last Ukrainian. Or a Polish volunteer...

mafketis
2 May 2023  #3153

give up all their powe

when has a rotten system ever reformed itself from the insi

You are making my points exactly... a prosperous West Ukraine and an impoverished, immiserated occupied East Ukraine won't lead to russians waking up about how awful their country is.... because the government will simply attack again.

I'm told that russia media is already thinking in terms of new attacks (as this effort winds down).

russia is a rabid dog... you hide from it or you put it down... the rabies won't go away on their own.

cms neuf
2 May 2023  #3154

US banks are failing because of the free market - which has it's ugly side. However better than Muscovy where the only way to own or run a bank is by either bribery, theft or being ex KGB. It is precisely this that the Ukrainians are fighting against

And they are fighting successfully. BTW, when is Bakhmut going to fall ? No essays, just a date.

Your army is a drunken incompetent joke

Velund
2 May 2023  #3155

If not, why are our banks dropping like flies?

Because with all that fast food american sh!t became too toxic even for flies. ;)

BTW: Tatyana Montyan (Ukrainian lawyer and humanitarian aid activist) published article today. Just translated short excerpt:

"Former German Chancellor Angela Merkel stated that Volodymyr Zelenski initially had no goal to implement the Minsk agreements.

This is not Merkel's first revelation regarding the infamous Minsk agreements: in December 2022, for example, she stated that these agreements were signed in order to "give Ukraine time" to better prepare for an armed confrontation. Simply put, Merkel confirmed what reasonable people already understood: with the help of the Minsk document, Moscow was banally deceived, using its unwillingness to get involved in a war and global confrontation. By the way, they also framed the UN Security Council, which "blessed" the Minsk agreements with a unanimous resolution (by thought, only a lazy man has not rubbed legs with the UN and its bodies in recent years), and the OSCE, but that is separate question.

However, Merkel's current statements prove that not only the Russian side was cheated: now it turns out that Zelensky was in on the action and in on the take, and all his talks about "just stop shooting" were also a deliberate lie, only this time it was the Ukrainian citizens who voted for Zelensky and expected him to stop the protracted pointless war. In fact, if Merkel is to be believed, Zelensky "did not think that the Minsk agreements should be implemented even during the presidential campaign," that is, he lied to the face of his voters, telling tales about his desire to bring peace to Ukraine."


Kashub1410
2 May 2023  #3156

@Velund
Maybe you could bring some valid points as to why any sane politician, western, eastern, southern, northern. Pick and chose!

Should make any trust based agreement with any Russian leader (especially Putin) if they are open to be breached and not attempted to be mended, just for the sake of showing a delusional show of non-existent power/influence?

I am not talking about resources or what materials Russia can bring to the table, I am looking for any proof of deals being uphold and proof of trust in modern times to any Russian leader. When I am saying any, you can also show proof of a Russian policemen having responsibility and upholding his duties in provincial Siberia with only one policemen under him taking care of the local population and having a normal situation with much or any dysfunctions

PolAmKrakow
2 May 2023  #3157

@Velund
Merkel was a Russian asset and nothing more. She lead the EU down the road to ruin and dependency on Russian fossil fuels. No one GAF about her or what she says. Dont look now but your hero little Vlad was just told he cant go to South Africa for the Brics conference. If he attended, they would arrest him. Funny how those meaningless arrest warrants can actually become meaningful isnt it?

@cms neuf
Banks are not failing because of the free market. They are failing because they went against fundemental banking principals. They ignored what they should have done.

Meanwhile in the war, the one little Putinazi fvcks support, Russians are abandoning positions in Bakhmut now. Withdrawing? Say it isnt so. Indeed after all artilary and amunition are running in short supply, the Russians cant keep up the fight.

Velund
2 May 2023  #3158

Maybe you could bring some valid points

You just don't have a choice. You have to work with any democratically elected president of Russia, even if he makes you urinate involuntarily. And the Russians don't give a sh!t what you think about it.

Likewise, Russia has to deal with a self-propelled Alzheimer's laureate named Biden. We know they forged ballots for him, but this is a business of the American people. We can't say "this president is no good for us, give us another" (and will punch the person who tries to say similar things to us in the face). We will try to negotiate until it reaches a limit that threatens the existence of Russia as a state and Russians as a nation. But if it comes to that - the fate of Americans will be of the last concern for us, and it won't be the policeman in Siberia who will decide it.

Kashub1410
2 May 2023  #3159

@Velund
Huh? No I do have a choice, and currently I am not vaguely interested in working with or promoting that man.

Just as if a member of the National-Socialist-Workers party of Germany in 1942 would write or say to me: " You just don't have a choice. You have to work with any democratically elected Führer of Germany, even if he makes you urinate involuntarily. And the Germans don't give a sh!t what you think about it."

Same answer, my answer would be: "No!"

His clique and ancestors and KGB associated would have wanted me dead on the spot either way, no matter what I say, do or not. My very existence in one form or the other is unacceptable to that man. So it costs me very little to refuse my killer.

So yeah, unless he shows a change of heart or slightest sign of hope. I do remain unconvinced, even if he nukes where I live.

My family has lost everything it had except their lives before, what more can he threaten us with? Death? Guess what! I'll die some day anyway! Rather dead then live under his terror cause it wouldn't be living anyways!

Velund
2 May 2023  #3160

Huh? No I do have a choice

It will be your choice. Don't know who said you that someone here want you to be dead, but it is not our problem anymore. If you will actively ask to be killed, you will get what you want. If you will try to turn on your brain - you have a chance to have other choices.

Kashub1410
2 May 2023  #3161

@Velund
Amounts of dead people in Katyń forests who dared to speak their mind thinking that they would not be killed proves me right for the time being.

My grand grandfather would have ended in that forest with them if he wasn't lucky and escaped the train heading to that place.

So feel free to tell me, that after hearing about the Butchering in Ukraine, what has changed? Technology of the killing methods?

What guarantees do I have or anyone similar or if same background if I dare to speak my mind for the betterment of humanity? Prison instead perhaps? Due to some paperwork neglect? Just because a tiny man in the Kremlin would get upset!

PolAmKrakow
2 May 2023  #3162

If you will try to turn on your brain - you have a chance to have other choices.

Russians have been told this for the last century and they have learned nothing. That said, they are number one in the world at dying in wars they start. It does count for something. Whats that is, we dont know yet.

Lets make guesses on when the counter offensive will begin and how many Russians will be killed before the end of summer? Yes. Thats what the Russian army has become. Something to bet on the amount of people in it who will die, nothing more. New recruiting tool in Siberia this summer is offering young men who volunteer two actual $hit sandwiches instead of the mythical ones they have been providing. Happy gulag biatches!

Novichok
2 May 2023  #3163

It is precisely this that the Ukrainians are fighting against

Yes, they fight and die to keep banks honest. I am sure you would like to join them.

Merkel was a Russian asset and nothing more.

And so are the Germans who elected her. How many times? Hey, BB, did you know you are a Russian asset?

they are number one in the world at dying in wars they start.

Which ones did they start? I have a list of wars the US along with its wh*ores for hire did.
BTW, I understand that waging wars for a quick buck or for "democracy" is so much more fun than for survival with all the destruction and death thousands of miles out there somewhere...

Like now in Syria...

johnny reb
2 May 2023  #3164

Lets make guesses on when the counter offensive will begin

My guess as soon as the mud dries up.
Kyiv's counteroffensive will target the strategically vital Kerch Strait Bridge, which will be a moral game changer.
Remember at the beginning of this thread how people were posting that would be impossible for Ukraine to blow up such a huge structure ?
Remember them saying if Ukraine blew up that bridge Putin would nuke Ukraine ?
Now Ukraine is telling Putin to kiss it goodbye and there ain't squat Putin can do about it.
Remember how people posted that Ukraine wouldn't dare attack inside Russia's borders ?
(Ukrainian forces shelled a village in the Russian Bryansk region)
And have you noticed how the nuke saber rattling has stopped.
And the latest is that the bully Putin is scared to death to show his face in public in fear of being assassinated by his own people.

Putin is cancelling meeting after meetings.

It will be a great day when Ukraine blows Putin's trophy bridge to smithereens'.
And it will happen !

Miloslaw
2 May 2023  #3165

It will be a great day when Ukraine blows Putin's trophy bridge to smithereens'.
And it will happen !

Great to see that you now support the winning side in this conflict.
You seemed to be very sceptical at first.

Novichok
3 May 2023  #3166

Great to see that you now support the winning side in this conflict.

Have you seen the map or does your "winning" have an asterisk?
Also, what do you base your claim on:
1. Z
2. Western press
3. Russia
4. Private sources
5. Internet

Novichok
3 May 2023  #3167

A reader's comment:

Ukraine cannot sustain these heavy losses for much longer. Ukraine is no match for Russia, even with NATO assistance. Ukraine was a corrupted and failed state. Once this war is over, it will be broken forever. Any country NATO touches becomes a failed state, examples are Libya, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Somalia, and now Ukraine. The Western military alliance is not defensive, it is wreaking havoc around the globe with its aggression, sanctions, and military interventions.

You don't have to love Russia to hate NATO.

PolAmKrakow
3 May 2023  #3168

@Novichok
"Libya, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Somalia"

You want to compare six traditionally tribal government states and one failed communist state to Ukraine? This is another new low. To say that any of those countries operated successfuly at any point before any war is simply ignoring the truth. While NATO did not create anything successful in several countries, they sure didnt ruin them.

Ukraine was, and is still riddled with corruption. We all know this. Ukraine knows this. I would agree that Ukraine cannot keep up with these losses, and that holding out in Bakhmut could prove to be a big mistake as it relates to deaths of soldiers. We will find out soon.

@johnny reb
I am going to guess that it begins in a matter of days. I think complaining about rain is a smoke screen given all the bombings inside Russian held territory. And I would guess that Ukraine will try to break through in the South to cut off Crimea. Crimea is the prize that can bring down little Vlad. Losing Crimea is the end of little Vlad, and everyone knows this.

Tacitus
3 May 2023  #3169

Ukraine is no match for Russia

The fact that Ukraine is still succesfully defending against Russia after more than 14 months objectively proves you wrong.

Libya, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Somalia, and now Ukraine

Leaving aside that NATO has nothing to do with Iraq, Yemen, Somalia and Syria, that Afghanistan was (thanks to the Soviet invasion btw) a failed state caught in civil war before NATO arrived and that the Intervention against Yugoslavia made a difference for the better.... NATO has also nothing to do with Putin's agression against Ukraine. NATO is not involved there, nor was it any more than a pretext for Putin to attack (and not even the one Putin put the most emphasis on compared to his colonial view on Ukraine).

PolAmKrakow
3 May 2023  #3170

Another mysterious fire breaks out at an oil storage facility in Crimea right next to the Kerch bridge. Say it isn't so all you little Putinazi fvcks. Imagine all those buildings

in Crimea buildt over the last few years suddenly becomming rubble. Imagine the Kerch bridge being completely destroyed. Then imagine the pushback on little Vlad throughout all of Russia for losing his only real bg accomplishment since rising to power over Yeltsin's illegal appointment of him as successor.

On a positive note, little Vlad is said to be preparing another bunker for himself in the mountains of Iran. Syria has lost its appeal to little Vlad with the US still hanging around. South Africa is out as a vacation destination now that they have said they would arrest him. It must be difficult being a dictator everyone would like to see dead.

Crnogorac3
3 May 2023  #3171

twitter.com/squatsons/status/1653502811492188161

When night became day

The best of all is when Kiev's propaganda says that some worthless shack was hit. 😃

hamer

This one also completed his mission.

PolAmKrakow
3 May 2023  #3172

@Crnogorac3
Unfortunately for you, that is not an ammo dump. No secondary explosions. Possibly some tnt or plastique, but not missiles or artilery. Ukraine has lots to kill Russians with on this great Poland Constitution Day. Speaking of constitutions, I wonder what rights Russians have in theirs? The right to fall out of a window. The right to be poisoned. The right to go to prison for actually having an original thought. The right to go to prison for not agreeing with killing civilians. The right to be shot by your own comrades if you refuse to go on a suicide mission. And lets not forget, the right to get anal raped by your commanding officer if he feels like it. These rights are supported by your local Russian and Serbian stippers union number 69.

Novichok
3 May 2023  #3173

all the bombings inside Russian held territory.

CDL is Russia now just as Cali, New Mexico, and Texas are the US and Szczecin is Poland.
Land ownership is binary - either you own it or you don't. Time is irrelevant. 100 days is as good as 100 years.
This makes Ukraine the aggressor in CDL and gives Russia the right to kill them as trespassers.

PolAmKrakow
3 May 2023  #3174

@Novichok
Nice way to forget all the embassy bombings, attacks on US ships, attacks on US soldiers, attacks on US citizens and all the other terrorist activity taken against the US and Europe. Those initial attack brought defensive retaliation. Simple. Now, Russia attacks a democracy and the little democracy, as corrupt as it may be, is kicking the big bears a$$. More territoty and more Russian soldiers lost today in Bakhmut. When exactly is that going to fall again?

PolAmKrakow
3 May 2023  #3175

@Novichok
I have never said NATO is innocent. I only say in most cases justified. Is the US a bully? Of course, and yes, because it can be. Is Russia a bully? Yes, but we are finding out its kind of a biatch when it actually comes down to fighting. We agree in principle to many things about the US, but Russia is guilt of invading a country and it really is the only point that needs making. Comparing Russias actions to the US is like you saying two wrongs make it right, or one is wrong and the other right? Cant have things both ways.

mafketis
3 May 2023  #3176

losing his only real bg accomplishment

And he mainly did that because his popularity was plummeting because of a badly managed "economy" (which peaked in 2006).....and the public discovering how he "won" the second Chechen war (gave the Chechens tons of money and let them play 'Islamic State'....)

CDL is Russia now

What about XERPCOH?

mafketis
3 May 2023  #3177

A little while ago, generalsvr suggested that russia might create a domestic 'crisis' as an excuse to "temporarily" withdraw from the "new territories"

twitter.com/generalsvr_en/status/1650451638417518593

Guess what happened last night.... drones "attacked" the Kremlin.....

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1653736708888834051

Remember things that make you go "hmmmmmm......"?

youtube.com/watch?v=XF2ayWcJfxo

Crnogorac3
3 May 2023  #3178

Warsaw police confront citizen of Ukraine

t.me/hotptakes/7297

Ukrainians are creating a mess in Poland.

Atch
3 May 2023  #3179

Ukrainians are creating a mess in Poland.

Meanwhile in Ireland:

independent.ie/regionals/kerry/news/great-joy-in-kerry-as-plans-to-move-ukrainians-completely-shelved-as-common-sense-has-prevailed/a1121856725.html

"The Ukrainian residents in our town are not just faces in the crowd; they are active members of our community. They work in our businesses, send their children to school with our kids, and participate in our sports clubs and social organisations. They have started to open new businesses in our town, providing employment opportunities in the town."

AND most importantly the kids are showing promise as GAA players. Go on ya good thing!

Crnogorac3
3 May 2023  #3180

Ukrainians are 75% of smugglers of illegal immigrants in Poland.

They raised the HIV rate several times even though they are a few % of the population.

Ukrainians go around with parades celebrating figures from their history who slaughtered Poles.

Ukrainians are wielding axes in Poland and attacking police officers.

Ukrainians are the Zimbabwe of Europe.


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