Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

Great stuff!
Russia need to be defeated before they go for the Baltics and Poland.
Which would mean WW3.
No sane person wants that.
So the West have to ensure that Ukraine wins.
No choice.
The Russians can't complain.
They left us no alternative.

NATO went to Russia. Russia didn't go to NATO.
Yes, I know...NATO is a cuddly little bear in need of hugs...
That's enough to go on. If Warsaw Pact went to Mexico, Canada, or Cuba,...Well, it actually happened and the world stopped breathing for a while.

No, it didn`t. NATO went to independent countries like Poland, among others. Stop lying like a dog. Whoof! Whoof! Whoof!

I wouldn't say it's "meaningless". I've watched an interview with one of Polish volunteers fighting in Ukraine and he said that the presence of foreign volunteers boosts the morale of Ukrainian soldiers. They can see that Ukrainians and Ukraine aren't left alone in this. This helps. Furthermore, those volunteers are often experienced, ex-soldiers, including former special operators who can, for example, provide training to Ukrainian troops, thanks to which more Ukrainian soldiers may survive this war.

Also, I think that if it was so "meaningless" the RuSSian propaganda machine (including you) wouldn't be attacking those volunteers so viciously as some kind of "bloodthirsty, ruthless marcenaries who go to Ukraine, because they like killing people, etc." RuSSia wouldn't also try to scare them off by spreading the news that they're going to execute every foreign volunteer fighting for Ukraine. RuSSia clearly doesn't want them there :)


As I wrote already - the fact that Novichok doesn't understand something - it doesn't make it "stupid" :) Besides, I doubt that majority of them go there to "die". They go there to fight, and, as everyone, they hope they'll survive.

I also don't see you calling "stupid" mercenaries from Wagner Group who are fighting in Ukraine for money. You think they don't have families?

They think that they serve their country. In reality they're dying for Putin, for his regime, for his plans and ambitions, just like German soldiers were dying for Hitler, the Nazi regime and Hitler's sick plans and ambitions. They were and are dying for all of that because they were and are fed with propaganda and lies. This invasion turned out to be a big mistake, but since like every psychopath Putin can't admit a mistake, he just keeps going instead of withdrawing from this insane idea. And more people are dying as result.

@Paulina
Cause it would be a clear signal to everyone involved that he is weak (wake up everyone, he is old) but, yeah dictators rely on strength mostly and primearily (which is why he builds up all this macho image).

For any intelligent person it's obvious charade to fool fools.

But, yeah he won't back down unless given an option that won't make him look weak. (Which is why Macron was trying to underline this)

But yeah, it's his and his own ilks fault for destroying a internationally bound elite not only in Russia but, contributing to it abroad as well. There are few diplomatical channels left for him to use that would care about his own personal interests or concerns. Every Russian patriot can also see where he is leading the country (if he has brain cells and is brave that is)

Good news, everyone!

The russian piece of sh}t Igor Mangushev, who called for the genocide of Ukrainians and performed with a skull (supposedly an Azov fighter) and who was then shot in the head (possibly fragged) has..... died.

twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1623235058218766337

Let his story be a lesson.....

Good things come to those who wait. A billet to the back of the head for this POS was too nice. Should have been long and slow. But there is a special place in hell for this Putinazi coxucker.

A new military alliance is emerging in eastern Europe which will redefine the geopolitical order in the region. It will also mark the emergence of Poland as a major European actor, entrench the position of the US and the UK in European affairs, and marginalise France, Germany and the EU.

engelsbergideas.com/essays/the-new-warsaw-pact/

....the Dutch are actually right now incorporating their armed forces into the Bundeswehr.

nytimes.com/2019/02/20/world/europe/germany-defense-spending-european-army.html

A European Army? The Germans and Dutch Take a Small Step

Great find! Very good reading.

Ha,ha, the new Warsaw Pact based in the post-sowiet Palace of Culture.

I thought about that remark abit more....

Do you really see Poland as the lone isolated power in Europe in the future? Going against the EU where nearly all other european countries are members of? Where Poland is still a member of? Counting on non-european countries for influence in Europe?

Is that really a successful way for Poland? Seriously?

@Bratwurst Boy
Feel free to mention the amount of strong, good and reliable allies Poland had in the Europe throughout it's entire history which can be depended on today with the current situation... Maybe you will begin to understand the approach

Once burned, twice as shy

Of course not. Poland can be strong, very strong only when in the EU. All other options are wet daydreaming of anti EUnionists.

....then please explain it to me....how should such a policy work? Putting all its cards on far away powers, how did it work for Poland in the past?

Poland is proud and wants to be powerful, agreed....but isn't it smarter to gain influence in an alliance with all its neighbours? Even the Brits regret their Brexit already.....

Fortunately, that`s what most Poles think. Only insane or PiS brainwashed guys dream of leaving the EU.

Well....the latest surveys support that...89/90% ratings for the EU and NATO....record highs...

pewresearch.org/global/2022/06/22/spotlight-on-poland-negative-views-of-russia-surge-but-ratings-for-u-s-nato-eu-improve/

Vladimir Putin's right-hand man warns war will 'continue throughout Europe' starting with Poland.

Amasing!


Nothing new in this part of the world. We are used to it. :):):)

Just don't come running to the U.S. for help when you get your feet blown off.

Why not? We are allies, aren`t we? Signed all pacts etc.

You mean Kadyrov?:

msn.com/en-us/news/world/vladimir-putins-right-hand-man-warns-war-will-continue-throughout-europe-starting-with-this-country/ar-AA17eOWs?li=BBnb7Kz



This dude is a clown and talks all kind of "scary" bullsh1t... And he's clearly obsessed with Poland ;D

A taste of his insane ranting from that article:

"I personally have such an intention, and I have repeatedly stated that the fight against Satanism should continue throughout Europe and, first of all, on the territory of Poland"

"Satanism" in Poland... No comment... ;D
🤦😂

@johnny reb
The little Chechen punk said it yesterday. Going to shooting range Saturday ;-)

is not kadyrov.... maybe patrushev (though word is, they're on the outs)

Did the irony go over your head ?


( American haa ha humor Pawian)

What irony? Do you suggest Americans will withdraw with the tail between their back legs when Poland is attacked??? Yes, pussy Repubs would. Fortunately , they are not in power and won`t be for a long time.

Erm....


thetimes.co.uk/article/us-bombed-nord-stream-gas-pipelines-claims-investigative-journalist-seymour-hersh-s730dnnfz

The bombing of the Nord Stream underwater gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea was a covert operation ordered by the White House and carried out by the CIA, a report by a veteran investigative journalist claims.

Seymour Hersh, a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter, has claimed that US deep-sea divers, using a Nato military exercise as a cover, planted mines along the pipelines that were later detonated remotely....

@Bratwurst Boy
Great. I actually hope it is true. The next step is for the west to tell Putin and all the coxuckers that the West will do whatever the fvck it wants in supplying weapons to Ukraine. Go fvck yourself and either get out of Ukraine or prepare to have your entire army destroyed. WTF is the west afraid of. WW3? Really? Russia can not win, and Putin is not going to press any buttons without his people turning on him first. One POS in the Kremlin holding the world hostage. I would pull the trigger myself if I could. All the bull$hit talk of "escalation" and "provocation" is a bunch of pu$$ies not being willing to end this, not just the west, but Russia too. Talk is fvcking cheap, time to bomb the $hit out of the Russians and be done with it.

I like this Pawian.

Ever since I was a little boy, I always wanted to see everything around me burn. For the longest time, I thought this was the result of some Russianness, or a side effect of growing up in the Wild West of the 90s in Russia. Now I know, I have counterparts in other places.

On the ashes of the old world, we will build a new one - superior in every way.