Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

The conflict began when Russia invaded first Crimea (with regular army) and then Donbas (with proxies supported, armed and sponsored by Kremlin).
After recent retard-annexations Russians consider Donbas, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia or Crimea soil as Russian as Moscow. Constitutional status of these territories is the same in Russian law.

That's why the West doesn't give a fu*ck anymore. If Putin wants to treat lands he's running away from or lands he never even occupied as sovereign Russian territory, it only makes him more of a joke.

They tried invading other places with real russian tanks but were shown the door.... one of the cities then that most strongly resisted was Mariupol... which is why it was singled out for special cruelty....


Me either.... fvkk russia and the russian people, they are not worthy of any consideration.

A Russian soldier was reprimanded after it was revealed he got drunk and attacked his own troops with an axe while stationed on the frontlines of the war in Ukraine

Do Russians have any normalcy at all ?


And become dog food for the Krakow street dogs.

BS. The conflict began when the West lied to the Soviets that NATO would not expand as part of the deal to unify Germany.

But to the stupid Russia haters, everything starts with the first Russian tanks rolling into Ukraine - just as WW2 started on September 1, 1939, not two decades earlier. And let's not forget that "unprovoked" day of infamy in 1941. Bad Japs...

Are there any adults here?

By "adult" do you mean a calcified brain that hasn't had a new thought in years and simply repeats discredited lies over and over and over?

Cause.... that's you.

@johnny reb
Oh JR, clearly you have never been here. Krakow dogs? Not likely, maybe some hedgehogs in planty though. No problem. Better go out fighting than be a coward or traitor.

Speaking of traitors @Novichok 1941 John Belusi could not even come close to this guy. WW2 began when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor right? Amazing how much history some idiots can forget or try to rewrite.

Back on topic edition 231

notesfrompoland.com/2023/02/23/polish-police-return-from-secret-mission-in-ukraine-demining-former-russian-occupied-territory/

A group of about 100 Polish police officers returned from the mission - kept secret until now - to demine areas in Ukraine retrieved from Russians. The team was welcomed back by President Andrzej Duda at the presidential palace, where he awarded them medals for bravery.

Working in the Kyiv region, the Polish demining team cleared about 342,000 square metres of land and over 17.5 kilometres of roads. They had to to seek shelter during Russian air raids 129 times during the mission, with none of the team injured.

@Novichok
You don't even understand sarcasm. Pathetic. Now all those senior minded PF members who like to make idiotic equations and play with unicorns, time to go take a nap while Ukraine keeps killing Orcs today. Russia is still number one in the world at dying. Next lesson......how to STFU

@pawian
Good stuff. Need more stories like this.

Today, the 10th batch of sanctions on Russia was introduced by the West. Amasing! It makes one batch per two months on average. What regularity! hahahaha

And they didn`t say the last word..... hahahahahaha

The clock is ticking mercilessly.......

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The new restrictions affect trade between the EU and Russia worth nearly EUR 11 billion, and their aim is, among other things, to ban the export to Russia of a long list of components that have both civil and military applications. They were determined on the basis of lists of parts found in Russian weapons on the battlefields, provided by Kiev. The export ban will also cover electronic systems and components, thermal imaging cameras, two-way radios, as well as types of steel and aluminum used, among others, in building.

Poland and Italy had a dispute over the import of Russian synthetic rubber - Poland wanted to ban it all, while Italians convinced the EU to allow the import of 500.000 tons a year.

Russia chose to embark on policy of trying to reassert their dominance over their former empire. Russia didn't do this in response to NATO expansion. That is just a bad excuse Russia uses to try to justify their attempts to control and dominate their neighbours.

The reality is that there were a small group of foreign policy experts stating that we have to recognize that Russia is a threat that needs to be treated as hostile to the West, but they were ignored and most of the western political community continued to try to treat Russia like they were a rational country they would be able to reach some kind of accommodation with regarding any issues that arose between them.

But the more they tried to negotiate with and reach accommodations with Russia the more Russia demanded all while crying about how unfair and aggressive they were being towards Russia.

It wasn't until after 2014 that a lot of the West began waking up to the reality that Russia is a hostile power that needs to be confronted, not a fellow nation that can be reasoned with and accommodated.

Yup, Poland was the only country from the ATLAS group who answered Ukraine's call for help to demine those areas. Other countries decided that it's too dangerous. That's why only those who volunteered were sent there. Only police officers could go, because the presence of military sappers from NATO would be viewed as a "provocation" by RuSSia. So, sappers from Polish counter-terrorism units were sent together with their medics and tactical team operators for protection. This mission lasted 5 months - here's the original article:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/ujawniamy-tajna-akcja-polskiej-policji-w-ukrainie-6869221913578112a

BS. To make this claim you have to be in Putin's head or at least be a mind reader. Which is the case, genius?

Now I have a choice...Some PF Russia hater - with zero knowledge and even less responsibility - saying that it's not NATO expansion. That's choice one.

The other choice is Putin saying that it is NATO expansion. Like 100 times...

Hmm ... who do I believe...


So what... Let Russia feel provoked. With NATO on one side and Russia running out of ammo on the other, NATO would win in minutes.

Can we discuss cowardice and bravery now?

Considering what a liar P-hole is? I'd defenitely not believe P-hole lol


But we don't want to start WWIII. Sorry :)


Yes, as you can see Polish police officers from counter-terrorism units are very brave people :)))

Contrary to the lying Polish press, Biden's visit was not a poke in the bear's eye. The bear was informed about it in advance and that siren was just a theatrical production for the naive.


I am much better than that and that's why I am here, not in Poland among suicidal maniacs.

was another red herring just like the ballon was.
biden wants to take the focus off his son laptop from hell that has enough on it to convict the biden's.
He and the media kept it buried for the 2020 election and now he is trying to keep it hid for the 2024 election.
Remember when biden threaten to withhold the aid money for Ukraine if Ukraine did not fire the prosecutor that was investigating biden and his sons shady dealings in Ukraine's oil ?

Now it's payback time so biden writes Ukraine their monthly check for billions.
biden is doing everything and anything to keep the focus off his corruption that would be reason enough to hang him for treason.
THATS what bidens Dog & Pony shows are all about.........Smoke and Mirrors.
TRUMP 24'

OSCE meeting room empties when putinist propagandist begins to read his statement...

twitter.com/LT_OSCE/status/1629161103333679105

... the way that Russia managed to become a pariah state in a year is nothing short of astounding.

We can look forward to much more of this and more sanctions too

Although it's symbolic, symbols are important and the Olympics need to be addressed. No r*SSians there under any circumstances.

Lets be clear, Putin has said multiple times that NATO is not why he started this war. Other little Putin coxuckers have used NATO as an excuse, but not little Vlad. Little Vlad has publicly said that the war is specifically to reclaim what he believes is Russian land. Hence the very quick referendums at gunpoint after nearly all the voters had left these lands. Hence the very quick actions of the Duma to illegally incorporate these lands as Russian republics. For the adult children here with dementia or Alsheimer's the equation is really P(Putin)+W(words) =T (Truth) Now, for those of you little Putinazi's that want to ignore that truth, you may also want to ignore the documented facts of how much Orc nation has lost by way of men and equipment. You know, like ignoring the fact that Orc missiles have to be repurposed and reprogramed from their original designs in order to be used to hit land targets in Ukraine. Of course if Orc nation had enough of the good stuff they wouldnt have to repurpose anything.

Thankfully though, the International Olympic Committe at Putins request is now making dying an official recognized event and retroactively giving Russia the gold medal for the last summer Olympics. This on the heels of potentially banning Russia from future Olympics. Happy gulag dummies!

B*itch, please. Launching attack from the Baltic States you can easily destroy Moscow and Petersburg, the only two places in Russia that actually matter. And yet somehow Putin does not make a move against these states.

NATO is bordering Russia since Poland joined in 1999. NATO has reached the outskirts of Petersburg in 2004, when the Baltic States joined. Soon also Finland will join, more than doubling the lenght of NATO-Russia border. If Russia could endure all these developments and not fall apart, it could also endure a Western-oriented Ukraine.

Because NATO expansion is not a threat to Russia's existence. It's only a threat to its imperial ambitions and plans of territorial expansion.

@Korvinus
It's existence is based on Imperial Ambitions and territorial expansion, without it being able to do so. Will lead to it's death

Plus the terrible demographic effect of losing a generation of young men either on the battlefield or by emigration.

Some food for thought on the Russian population decline and projections.

telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/02/26/russia-stares-population-abyss-putin-sends-young-men-die/

here are excerpts from an interview with now retired General Cieniuch

Russia hoped that Ukraine would be intimidated by its tanks and planes and would give it part of its territory?

Russia undoubtedly wanted to subjugate not a part, but the whole of Ukraine. It was about such a change of power in Kiev that would be favorable to the Russian Federation, and even submissive to it. That was their goal. However, they did not foresee the scale of resistance of Ukrainian society and their armed forces. This resistance gave the West time to consolidate and make a decision.

Already at the stage of planning the invasion of Ukraine, Russia wrongly assumed that the operation would be similar to that in 2014 in Crimea and Donbas. It probably decided that its military offensive would be lightning fast, and thus the West would not have time to react.

So Russia wanted to achieve the goals of the war by fait accompli, thinking that the West would only have to accept this state of affairs.

That's where I got the idea from that post from, I'd just read that article in today's DT. I suspect the real situation there is even bleaker.

It is a scary situation for r*SSia however they are hammering the nails in their own coffin. Nobody is to blame except them.


Does he mention Transnistria?

It's for Russia to decide what is and what is not a threat.
A nation can be weakened gradually and without nukes. Russia has decided that it had enough knowing very well what is next: Yugo-style breakup - preceded by Soros-style sabotage of their traditions and morality. That's why Putin - I love this guy for this alone - told the LGBT scum to stay the hell away from Russian kids.

If the invasion of Ukraine served as a dose of patriotism and awareness of who Russia's enemies are, that's a bonus worth having.

Another article in today's DT about the former Chief Rabbi of r*SSia advising jewish people to leave r*SSia if possible due to the deteriorating r*SSian situation. Plus, if Isreal comes good and both helps Ukraine and targets Iran, there could be significant anti-Jewish feeling there.

75,000 have left since the start of r*SSia's illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, however any practical steps to combat the r*SSia-Iran axis of evil could lead to typical r*SSian barbarism to those who remain.


I've a feeling we'll be hearing much more about it before this war is over.

@Novichok
You don't have permission to reply to my posts. Back under your bridge.

It's better than defining yourself in agreement with your masters in DC.


Russia's invasion is as legal as was the US invasion of V and I.

Actually, more...You know, the right to self-defense...

@Novichok
Bla bla bla V and I over and over again. Maybe come up with an argument that actually makes sense? Someone forgot to drink their ensure today.

Meanwhile, in Bakhmut, it is a street fighting situation now. Orc trops complaining they are being sent on suicide missions with little hope of survival. Poor little idiots.

I'm not going to defend every intervention of the US or the West in general.

Today however we're not dealing with Vietnam or even Afghanistan, left by the US Army in 2021. We're dealing with Ukraine, a European country that wants to have a European, not Asian perspective of development. And Russia is trying to prevent it, while grabbing some land for itself.