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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5



pawian
24 Feb 2023  #1021

Poland is the first country to deliver Leopards to Ukraine...

Ukrainian response:
new beasties in our Ukrainian military zoo - 4 Leopard2A4!
We are looking forward to hosting more of them. Food and leisure will be provided.
Thank you to our Polish friends @AndrzejDuda @mblaszczak and Polish people.


Novichok
24 Feb 2023  #1022

I am so happy that Leopards are indestructible.

pawian
24 Feb 2023  #1023

By who it was planned for 3 day?

It was planned by Putin and his clique. The source? American intelligence which correctly predicted that Russians would invade Ukraine. Their plan was to capture Kiev within 2 days, kill or remove the current Ukrainian leadership and on the third day Ukrainian troops were expected to surrender everywhere.

Alien
24 Feb 2023  #1024

that Leopards are indestructible.

It isn't true, but you need 7 T90 for one Leopard to destroy it.

Velund
25 Feb 2023  #1025

The source? American intelligence

So, the same nonsense as was with Litvinenko, Scripals and Navalny case - "everyone know this", without any proofs beyond "undisclosed sources in intel"?

Novichok
25 Feb 2023  #1026

Now, to close the day with a joke...Quoting RT:

Ukraine prepares attack on Crimea - Zelensky
Kiev already has the resolve necessary for the assault, but is still building up its capabilities, the president says


In other news...I am preparing an attack on Fort Knox to supplement my Social Security benefits.

Hey, Zhole, Crimea has been and is more Russian than Berlin is German.

Alien
25 Feb 2023  #1027

than Berlin is German

Yes Novi, Berlin like Wolin, Lublin, Konin etc is a Polish name.

Paulina
25 Feb 2023  #1028

Hey, Zhole,

Hmm, I think I'm going to call Putin "Phole" from now on (pee-hole = fiut in Polish) :)

Crimea has been and is more Russian than Berlin is German.

That's a lie, actually. Crimea was under RuSSian rule only since 1783.

Alien
25 Feb 2023  #1029

I'm going to call Putin "Phole"

...and I would call him "Putas"😀

Paulina
25 Feb 2023  #1030

Yeah, Russians are a very docile bunch.

Yes, unfortunately, they tend to be docile and put up with all kinds of sh1t for way too long. The anger and frustration gets accumulated to such an extent that they snap and make bloody revolutions then. And later they say that they're afraid of changes, because "changes" for them mean bloody revolutions... *sigh* 🤦

...and I would call him "Putas"😀

LOL That's perfect, Alien! :D 👍👏

mafketis
25 Feb 2023  #1031

I would call him "Putas"

I'm sticking with putain (too sophisticated?)

Alien
25 Feb 2023  #1032

putain (too sophisticated?)

Yes, why ......ain?

mafketis
25 Feb 2023  #1033

people don't know French anymore?

Paulina
25 Feb 2023  #1034

(too sophisticated?)

No, they are all great and spot on: Putain, Putas, Fiutin ;D

Yes, why ......ain?

pl.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/putain

GefreiterKania
25 Feb 2023  #1035

Poland starts fortifying the Russian border. Anti-tanks concrete and steel "hedgehogs" are being put up at the border with Kaliningrad District...

hedgehogs on Russian border

... of course, this has to be only the first stage of fortifying the border - more sophisticated defensive lines will have to be constructed to stop the onslaught of Asian hordes, but it's a good thing that the works have already started.

wiadomosci.onet.pl/trojmiasto/polska-stawia-zapory-na-granicy-z-rosja-general-skrzypczak-to-niepokojacy-sygnal/t8gdlrn

Meanwhile, the deal confirming the production of K2 tanks and K9 howitzers in Poland has been signed yesterday...

fronda.pl/a/PGZ-podpisalo-umowe-na-produkcje-czolgow-K2-i-armatohaubic-K-9-z-Korea-Poludniowa,211949.html

If Russians think it will be easier to defeat Poland than Ukraine, then there's a surprise in store for them. :)

mafketis
25 Feb 2023  #1036

Very good thread for idiots who think

a) Ukrainians should have surrendered early on

b) russia can be reasoned with

c) think russia is not a genocidal fascist empire...

twitter.com/TheStanislawski/status/1629093197363269632

money quotes:

"We also read Putin's 2021 article about Ukrainians and Russian being "one people."
We get the undertones.
We know that "one people" means they think we don't deserve to be our own people."

"We were aware that Russia wouldn't let us live.
We knew their only language of dialogue was violence, so negotiating our right to exist with them was pointless."

Korvinus
25 Feb 2023  #1037

Losing what?

Ultimate stage of denial - reject all information that doesn't support your delusions. No point talking, really.

Novichok
25 Feb 2023  #1038

The single dumbest sentence in this threat: Russia is losing.
Fill in what your heart tells you. Profound and deep.

Korvinus
25 Feb 2023  #1039

Fill in

I already had. Not feeling like retyping it.

Novichok
25 Feb 2023  #1040

So far, Ukraine is out of 20% of its territory, 90% of its industries, and the US - out of 110 billion bucks it had to borrow and add to inflation while 50% of Americans have less than 500 bucks to their name.

This, children, is how "Russia is losing" and, by extension, "Ukraine is winning". By the same perverted Polish logic, Ukraine will be winning even more when it loses another 20% of its land.

Korvinus
25 Feb 2023  #1041

Shitposting is all and good, but now let's watch a video about Ukrainian partisans ruining Russians' day in the still occupied regions of Ukraine.

youtu.be/TFUoUfbm5Cg

Novichok
25 Feb 2023  #1042

in the still occupied regions of Ukraine.

Who is occupying whom? Since Ukraine is winning, is Ukraine occupying Russia?

Novichok
25 Feb 2023  #1043

BTW, what happened to the "will of the people"? Is there any doubt what the people of Crimea, Donbas, and Luhansk want?
On that basis alone, Zholes in C, D, and L are trespassing and should be shot. Simple.

I just answered my own question in the post above. Ukrainian army in D and L is occupying Russia. Not nice...

Tacitus
25 Feb 2023  #1044

Russia is losing

Russia has been losing since the day it started the invasion. Even if it had succesfully overrun Ukraine like it hoped, the damage from the sanctions and the costs of occupation would have offset any benefit it could have gained from the occupataion. The best it could hope for was a Pyrrhic victory, that allowed Putin to feel good about redrawing Russia's borders while leaving the next generation suffer the consequences.

Now Russia sinks more and more of its' ressources into the war without even that small prospect of consolidation. 350bn€ in financial reserves frozen and likely gone forever. More than 200k Russians have been killed or injured. Russia is forced to spend more and more of its' state budget for the war despite declining fossil revenues which means the decay of its' infrastructure will only accelerate. It suffers one geopolitical blow after another, from Finland joining NATO to Kazakhstan and other countries trying to leave its' orbit. Its' long nurtured soft-power in the West is completely gone. Its' imminent demographic decline is shaping up to be more like a collapse due to the war.

Lets' assume that Ukraine would soon be forced to negotiate and accept the loss of all of its' currently occuppied territory. Would any rational person really believe that what Russia has effectively gained since February 2022 (mostly depopulated and heavily destroyed territory that was poor to begin with) would outweigh the losses?

It might be enough for Putin to save face, but the bill will have to be paid by the Russians.

Is there any doubt what the people

Of course not. They want to be part of Ukraine and wait for their liberation if we go by established democratic elections.

It is up to Russia to prove the opposite with fair and free democratic elections which it has so far failed to do (and given the nature of the Russian regime, will never do).

PolAmKrakow
25 Feb 2023  #1045

@GefreiterKania
This is great to see. Should have started 12 months ago. The Orcs would be incredibly foolish to try anything in Poland. Had fun at the range today along with probably another 50 people and others waiting to get in. Young Poles arming themselves and getting practice in just in case.

I am sticking with calling him little Vlad. His Napoleon complex just cannot be ignored. Followers will always remain Putinazi coxuckers.

The beauty of Novi posts are that they are consistently delusional and nonsensical. Not based on facts. When in fact is less than 18% of land which is predominantly rural, undeveloped and poor. There the industry lost has been destroyed and Russia isn't getting anything., particularly when Ukrain will be able to reach everything with the new missiles with 500 km radius. Winning equals twice as many dead or wounded Russians as Ukrainian. Body count and when you run out of bodies, your country dies. Happy gulag you dumb mother fvckers!

mafketis
25 Feb 2023  #1046

Is there any doubt what the people of Crimea, Donbas, and Luhansk want?

quite a bit, actually, but Ukraine will have to reassert rule over them before any longer term plans can be made...

Novichok
25 Feb 2023  #1047

BS. Russians is C, D, and L want to be part of the Russian Federation. Duh!
Since they are the majority, the majority prevails. Duh!
Now, C, D, and L are Russia.

Winning equals twice as many dead or wounded Russians as Ukrainian.

Bullsh*it. The US killed a lot more Vietnamese than 58,000 and still lost. Afghanistan - the same story. Think before posting crap.

mafketis
25 Feb 2023  #1048

Think before posting crap

You should take your own advice to heart. You really should.

johnny reb
25 Feb 2023  #1049

The Orcs would be incredibly foolish to try anything in Poland.

Well if they do, Happy gulag to you PolAm.

Poland starts fortifying the Russian border. Anti-tanks concrete and steel "hedgehogs" are being put up at the border with Kaliningrad District..

And the U.S. is sending more troops to Poland for some funny reason.
Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev on Friday issued a direct threat against NATO after he called on Moscow to push Western defenses outside of Ukraine and across "the borders of Poland."

And if they do PolAm will be serving his famous stone soup at his restaurant and the Polish women will get raped repeatedly.
If I lived in Poland I would be buying my plane ticket now.

PolAmKrakow
25 Feb 2023  #1050

@johnny reb
I would go out shooting from my tree stand 8 stories up. ;-)

@Novichok
Keep believing in the dream little fella. The USSR will return, Stalin will be reincarnated, and comrade Putin will be canonized. Oh wait.....thats the dream that simply will never come true. Russia will collapse in on itself. They are cannibalizing parts from planes already, and dont look now, but they have already had multiple crashes. Oooops was that a major ammunition depot with missiles in Donetsk that just went boom? Was that another platoon blown to sloppy joe mix?

Wont it be nice when the dozen brigades of Ukraine soldiers being trained by the US hit the field with all the new tech in the summer? Imagine all those Orcs crying for mommy as they bleed out for 18% and shrinking.


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