Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

It was never the intention of The West to invade Russia.
Only Russians raised that theory.
Over to you......

I will no longer respond to childish crap like this because there is no "West", only the US, and the US happened to be in a state of war somewhere 90% of its existence.

Yes, I know, for "democracy" - regardless if the locals liked the idea or not. We somehow never bothered to ask them.

@Novichok

Yeah, but did "The West", however you choose to define it.
Ever intend to invade Russia?
Please answer the question or forevermore be seen as a cowardly prat on this forum.

Yes. Like in Iraq.

Step One: Weaken Russia by provoking it into a war with expendable useful idiots in Ukraine.
Step Two: Discover a new Russian WMD that threaten the Earth and the Whole Fu*cking Universe.
Step Three: Place embargo of every damn thing going in and out as we did with Cuba.
Step Four: Send an ultimatum demanding regime change.
Step Five: If Step Four does not work, organize a spontaneous 2014-style revolution.

Did Russia intend to invade any NATO country?

Also, did I make any errors in 1292?

Tell that to Finland.

Reading comments is always more fun...From dailymail.com:

They are surrounded and Zelensky won't let them leave, so they are rebelling on the front lines and are being shot by their commanders instead. Even Russia understands the troops are full of teenagers and have told Zelensky to let them leave. I don't think people understand exactly who Zelensky truly is.

I would love for Wagner to invade and sort out some of the crime-ridden cities in America.

Took em six months to encircle one town. Six. Months. And they brag about it?

It took America 20 years in Afghanistan, and they were still defeated and sent running by the Taliban.

And the U.S. is so fvcked its beyond any hope.
These childish dimwits feel so secure having the U.S.A. at their backs.
Do they not get that Iran is an allie to Russia and that Iran will have nukes up and ready within days.
Do they not realize that China is an allie to Russia.
Do they not realize North Korea is an allie to Russia and they have nukes too.
Just watch when Iran gets their nukes how they will Blackmail the West.
I will say it again, Poland is the last country I would be living in right now.
These Eurps on this forum are living in a fantasy world if they think Ukraine and NATO are going to defeat Russia anytime soon.
How can these blind Woke MFers get so brainwashed with such a false sense of security.

Exactly! That is why we don`t care anymore and we bash rightard morons without limits. You even mentioned this change of tone somewhere else. :):):)

NATO did not move east, the East moved to the West. Simple. When countries values and priorities change, there is inevitably old holdovers clinging to the past. Velund and Novi are perfect examples of that dinosaur mentality. Bobko is just talking because he has the protections of the west, and those protections give him the ability to be a stupid Russian here.

China is not an ally to Russia. They are waiting for Russia to collapse so they can move in. Anyone notice that China began changing the names on their maps of Russia back to their Chinese names and not Russian? I wonder why that happens? If China was an ally, why wait more than a year to even consider sending assistance? With the threat of US sanctions, China is not going to risk losing the US consumer for any Russian POS. Money talks. Happy gulag biatches!

Another day another high profile russian..... be dayed!

Special bonus: traditional russian christian values alert!

This time it was one of the co-creators (robbers) of the sputnik vaccine (pirate version of moderna) who was killed after he and the prostitute he hired had a disagreement about payment....

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1631682580847247363

traditional russian christian values alert - it was a male prostitute.... I wonder if it was a conscript because officers routinely pimp them out.....

In 1989 thinking in terms of conspiracy theories was as popular as today, so I'm sure some cynical people commented "ah, those Poles and their desire for freedom! How naive! Poland is just a fool tool for some very different designs!"

But the fact is, today we're more free and prosperous than we've ever been before 1989. If some nefarious plans were realised thanks to us reclaiming independence, so be it. If somebody's happiness depended on our subjugation, fu*ck them with a sharp stick. We don't owe this fu*cks a thing.

Same with Ukrainians. Some people in this thread (hi Novi) act as if Ukraine's defeat and subjugation by Russia will bring realisation of their dreams . Globohomo will be overcome and government stops inviting criminals.

To these people I can only say, if realisation of your dreams rely on the suffering of millions of people, they aren't worth sh*it.

A true Putinazi Coxucker if there ever was one! Bravo one more dead Orc.

Mitch McConnell going to push Europe to do more for Ukraine, or the US will start pulling back on the volume of funding. Now that Mitch is starting to get pi$$ed, the EU better pay attention. Biden does not control everything, and Mitch is right, the EU does need to carry more of this load then they are.

It means its working.

Hey, guys, I just gave you a recipe how to end Russia in five easy steps and I get nothing? No thank you or just a wow? What's up with that?

I feel so totally unappreciated.

So, as a reminder and proof of my genius, an encore presentation of my simple, five-stepper:

Step One: Weaken Russia by provoking it into a war with expendable useful idiots in Ukraine.
Step Two: Discover a new Russian WMD that threatens the Earth and the Whole Fu*cking Universe.
Step Three: Place embargo of every damn thing going in and out as we did with Cuba.
Step Four: Send an ultimatum demanding regime change.
Step Five: If Step Four does not work, organize a spontaneous 2014-style revolution.

I am in awe of myself...


What annoys the hell out of me is when they use that plural "we". FU, Euros, you are just a piece of real estate for the US planes to land on.

20,000 dead ones around Bakhmut alone. And they still haven't taken it.

Apparently novi moved to russia and now dresses as a babushka... (first half of the video, I guess novi's companion in cross-dressing, velund, is the second interviewee....

twitter.com/KremlinTrolls/status/1632001214828232707

It's not putain's war, it's the war of everyday russians who nurse a massive narcissistc wound... the world doesn't worship them and so they lash out....

How did you manage to count them? Did you visit all body refrigerators, morgues, hospitals, and cemeteries?
I am really impressed...

In the meantime, while you are investigating another killing field, how about my brilliant 1304? Would you like to improve anything in my plan?

I agree, Novi.
Without "we" the E.U. would be hiding in root cellars right now.
But since "we" have their backs they spout their diminishing remarks like, Orcs, dog food, fertilizer, Happy gulag biatches, and the rest of them.


There is no 'if' about it, China 'IS' an allie of Russia and is methodically using them just like the U.S. is Ukraine.


B.S. said the sparrow, lets eat.
You have repeated that endlessly in this thread so who are you trying to convince besides yourself.
Tell us PolAm, "How long do you think it will be before China attacks Tiawan drawing the U.S.A. into a world war ?"
Do you think they will give two tiddles and a tit about losing the U.S. as consumers ?
I will tell you one more time, "The U.S.A. is fvcked which means the free world is fvcked and that is you and your grandchildren."

China is now the top dog in the world by having the best military, the rarest natural resources, the smartest youths, and established very well world wide.

Take your head out of the sand, wake up and admit that the U.S. is no longer the top dog in the world.
Our leaders have sold us out in the name of greed, the Woke's have dumbed down our youth for the last fifty years and then came Oslama to finish things off.

Do not the people of Poland understand this ?

You are right. It's not Putin's war. That gift from hell came from DC via proxies aka useful idiots so it's an American war. I can tell by the amount of money we spend on it.

So far, US - 110 billion. Russia's annual - 61 billion. US Wall - 0 billion.
US army protecting Poland - more than 10,000. US army protecting the US border - 0.
Numbers are funny things. You can't bs with them.


They do. But as with Santa, it's hard to say bye to illusions.
Did you read that Poland is planning to up their mil expenditures to 5%? Like NATO, all they need is an enemy.

The problem with anti-war Democrats or Republicans (isolationists anyway) is that they ignore sh*it that's happening in the world until it escalates and become a much larger problem that the US has to tackle with anyway. Happened with Hitler, Mao (abandoning nationalist China in the late 40s), now its happening with Putin.

Despots need to be challenged when they are relatively weak, not when they grow in strength by conquests. Because than it's much more difficult to stop them. And sometimes it's impossible.

Only in Russia-hating minds.

Mil budgets in billions:

US - 800
Germany France UK - 60 each
Russia - 60

It is possible that Putin doesn't know these numbers or thinks that has 60 trillion bucks to play with.

Now that I published the above, he knows better; it's only a lousy 60 billion and a real downer to any super dictator.

That's what we spend on LGBT and inclusivity courses at Fort Bragg.

I just saved the world.

If someone had told Ronald Reagan that he could neutralise the threat of r*SSia for just a trillion, he'd have jumped at the chance.


And since this one is getting weaker by the day, this is a golden opportunity.

Thanks, Novi, as I do try to be serious sometimes with these arm chair Generals.


I don't know why he is so ill informed about Russia and China being allies.
I mean it is in the news daily.
Here is todays that counter his claim.

U.S. intel on China considering lethal aid for Putin's war was gleaned from Russian officials
Quoting:
U.S. officials then spent weeks corroborating the information from other sources of intelligence, the current and former officials said, and with allies who also brought additional streams of information.

The multiple threads of intelligence suggesting that China is considering giving lethal aid to Russia, including ammunition and artillery, raised alarm among biden administration officials, particularly given how such a move by Beijing could shift the dynamic of the war in Moscow's favor.

"That's not going to be good for the people of Ukraine."
And don't forget that Russia's allie Iran will have nuke's to blackmail with within weeks.
That will wipe the smirks off the faces of those who think they are so secure in Poland.

And yet, I still speak the truth.

No, he wouldn't because:

1. NATO would have no reason to exist
2. It would leave China that is 10x the threat when compared to Russia

Russophobia is a dangerous mental disorder. The cure, as always, will come from China.


All mental patients think they are normal. In your case, you ignored everything I posted - in numbers, not opinions - that is relevant to your claims.

How are you going to neutralize the threat of Russia's nukes joun ?

'Russophobia' my ass. I don't know from what hole you crawled out of, but here in Central-Eastern Europe we have many valid historical reasons not to like or trust Russia. That's no 'phobia' if the feeling is totally rational.

Yes, I know...that damn Katyn. And the pact...But not Yalta.

Thanks for the oxymoron of the week: totally rational Pole.
And the oxymoron of the year while I am at it: investigative Western reporter.

Back to the real world of real numbers:

Mil budgets in billions:

US - 800
Germany France UK - 60 each
Russia - 60

Any thoughts, Mr. K?

Mil budgets in billions:

US - 800
Germany France UK - 60 each
Russia - 60

Any thoughts, Mr. K?

WTF are you talking about?