Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

@mafketis
"I took precautions ahead of time" That is called a Novicondom. Typically given out in all Chicago neighborhoods for free, now exported to Poland and other international locations.

Meanwhile, Russia, in its infinite wisdom, spearheaded by the all-knowing and wise little Vlad, has listed the World Wildlife Fund as a "foreign agent". Yes. Saving animals around the world, clearly is the definition of foreign agency. This coming from the same government who is feeding the wild animal population in Ukraine for the last year. Amazing the depth of intelligent leadership in the Kremlin. Happy gulag biatches!

Foreign and hostile to Russia. If you bothered to see their website you would catch this:

Create a climate-resilient and zero-carbon world, powered by renewable energy

Sure. Russia needs a subversive group bsing about climate change and a "zero-carbon world like I need a zero-oxygen world. Bunch of morons...

Russia should shut those tree-huggers down and send them packing.

youtu.be/NNM2mDbGnSU

I just watched this video and concluded that we are dealing with insane people in DC and Kiev who would rather see a country in ruins and 10 million citizens gone than sign a neutrality agreement.

Why would they do it? Let me guess...How about because their goal is for Russia to suffer the fate of Yugoslavia? It's really that simple, with the U war as the first step.

It's easy to provoke a war so skip that old crap about Russia invading Ukraine. In 1967, Isreal invaded Syria and Egypt. I wonder why they did it...those bad Israelis.

Just as Reagan is known as the man who brought down the Wall and finished off the USSR, the fossil wants to be known as the one who ended the Russian "empire" - after finishing his own country.

Dissolution of the Soviet Union was relatively peaceful (at least in its western parts, there was lots of fighting in Caucasus). On the other hand Yugoslavia fell apart with lots of bloodshed. Trying to change borders by force usually end like this, as Russians are currently learning.

Russia always justifies its invasions of foreign countries with 'security concerns' to mascarade its imperial ambitions. Soviet Union attacked tiny Finland claiming its security interests. Russia recognized and guaranteed Ukraine's borders in Budapest memorandum. If Putin had an ounce of decency he would honor this settlement, while accepting all the 'refugees' from Donbass or Crimea.

Let me suggest to you that Russia today is not the Soviet Union - just as Germany in 2023 is not Germany in 1939.
Russia doesn't even have the death penalty. We do. Not that I am against it. Just saying...

Quit being a little bi*tch. You know damn well that The Russian Federation is a continuation of the Soviet Union and that the Russia was always an informal way to refer to the Soviet Union as the Soviet Union was just a change in the government of Imperial Russia and is legally recognized as the successor state to Imperial Russia. Just like the Russian Federation was just a change in government of the USSR (although many of the conquered people took that chance to declare independence) and is legally recognized as the successor state to the USSR.

Russia is a country that has existed since at least 1547 depending on whether you consider the Tsardom of Russia the first Russian state or whether you think it would have been an early polity like the Grand Duchy of Moscow.

But you already knew all that, as does everyone else in this thread, so we all have to wonder why you bothered making your comment. Was there any point to it at all?

Unless you do genuinely believe that Russia and the Soviet Union are entirely different entities, and that Russia can therefore not claim any accomplishments or acts of the Soviet Union, whether good or ill. Russia certainly doesn't agree with that given how they venerate WW2 and the Soviet's role in it, which they consider to be their role in WW2.

Among other things the rF is the internationally recognized successor state of the CCCP and inherited its seat in the UN.

Not exactly the same country but it's hard to make the claim that it's changed for the better (especially last 10 years when putain began fearing the public and cracking down on all dissent and political engagement).

Quit being a big ass*hole.


You know damn well that the Russian Federation has nothing in common with the USSR beyond the language and some territory.

I can make a list of what Russians are free to do today that they were not free to do way back but I won't because I know I am dealing with world-class morons here, stuck at Katyn.

If Russia is a continuation of the Soviet Union then Germany is a continuation of Germany - both claims being supremely idiotic. Those billions you got from them did wonders, didn't they?

This seems rather accurate.

Of course they are, both. The difference being, Germany accepted it. Russia did not.

What would Russia have to do to convince Mr. K that it "accepted it" - whatever "accepted it" means?
Or: What did Russia do to give you the basis for the implied claim that Russia didn't "accept it"?
Please don't insult me with the invasion. Feel free to insult me with what took place between 1990 and 2021.

@Novichok, RuSSia/RuSSians accept it when it's convenient for RuSSia/RuSSians to accept it and don't accept it when it isn't convenient for RuSSia/RuSSians to accept it :) (so, in other words, RuSSia/RuSSians are being "schizofrenic"/hypocritical about this acceptance from what I've noticed)

Another case of it-ism ... Talking to Poles is like talking to poles.

Accept fu*cking what?????

@Novichok, you already forgot what we're discussing about??? LOL 😂

Here you go:

In the end we fought Germany together in a large coalition, but not before countless Soviet atrocities committed against Poland & Poles, of which Katyn is merely the most known, but there were many others, like sending tens of thousands of civilian population to Siberia and Kazakhstan or Augustów Roundup.

And Soviets were part of anti-Nazi coalition only because Hitler backstabbed them in 1941. Before Barbarossa Stalin was perfectly happy to be Hitler's ally and supplier.

What USSR gave to the world?

The greatest famine in Europe
Helped to establish the State which caused the greatest famine in the human history
The greatest mass rape in the human history
The unique military alliance to only attacks its own members in the history
The greatest slave labor camps ever built in the human history
Spawned Frankfurt school which created the Baizuo left and all progressist nonsense destroying the west
Subverted via KGB the west and made Frankfurt ideology stronger
Created and supported a lot of totalitarian sh*itholes. Cuba before the revolution had more Americans and Europeans living there than the other way. Now, not even Haitians wanna live there.

Almost destroyed the world
(...)

We are past this point and I forget nothing.

We are at:


So my question - again - is what did Russia not accept?

Since you Poles are special, and not in a good way, here is the Polish version:

Więc moje pytanie - znowu - brzmi: czego Rosja nie zaakceptowała?

Just in case...If your answer is "responsibility", try to explain for what before I ask. OK?

A reminder: do not insult me with anything before 1990 and after 2021.

Current day Russia trying to be a successor of both Russian Empire and the Soviet Union only proves that Marx was right: history indeed repeats itself twice. First as a tragedy, then as a farce.

In the 80s Soviets ordered our communist government to 'deal' with opposition by introducing martial law. And also suggesting that if our communists won't solve the matter with proper decisiveness, Soviets might 'aid' them in this.

No, we are not.


Do you have a problem with following the discussion?:

As I already wrote RuSSia/RuSSians consider RuSSia to be a continuation of the Soviet Union and that "RuSSians did it" when it's convenient for them (the good stuff - like defeating the Nazis or space race), but when it's about owning up to bad stuff (Stalin, Katyń massacre, Holodomor, deportations, gulags, etc. etc.) then they don't want to do it - then, suddenly, RuSSia isn't the continuation of the Soviet Union for them anymore lol and "RuSSians didn't do it", because "Stalin was from Georgia" and "NKVD was full of Jews" lol 🤦

So they ACCEPT that RuSSia is a continuation of the Soviet Union if it's about the good stuff, but when it's about the bad stuff they DON'T ACCEPT IT. It's very advanced (and pretty retarded) HIPOCRISY.

zły styl: Czego nie zaakceptowali rosjanie?

Unlike Germans, they never publicly admitted collective wrongdoing....

After WWII Germans had to own up to they did and what happened as a result.

After 1991 russians were allowed to continue to pretend the USSR was a normalish country and not one of the three worst socio-political and military aggressors of the 20th century.

That mistake cannot be made again.

russians have to own up to their collective wrongdoing.

Brilliantly put!

India and China competing for Russian crude - Reuters
The expanding pool of Asian buyers is pushing prices higher

Reuters' calculations also show that the rising demand has pushed prices for Russian low sulphur ESPO blend bought by Indian refiners above the $60 per barrel cap set by the G7 nations on Russian seaborne crude. China has also been buying ESPO at above the price cap level.

No, Russians don't have to drink their oil. They sell it! Above the price cap!!!

Eat sh*it, Russia haters...

If Trump would have been re-elected president, the Ukraine war would have never happened.
You Liberals got exactly what you voted for and now we all suffer because of it.

Side note:
Russian officials railed against Ukraine's talk of changing Russia's official name to Muscovy, after a Ukrainian petition regarding a potential name change garnered 25,000 signatures.

The petition notes that the name "Muscovy" was used in European and some Asian languages and appeared on many historical maps of the 16th-19th centuries, which were produced in Europe before and after the renaming of the Muscovite Empire to the All-Russian Empire.

"Muscovy" has a nice ring to it dunnit. :-)

True. He would have just handed over Ukraine to Putin when asked and be done with it.

The day Biden won the election was the most fortunate day in Ukrainian history.

@johnny reb
I just read about this. I like it too. And that is the Ukraine people spitting right in little Vlads face. Thats a statement saying that they are never going to give up fighting.

@Novichok
Eat $hit yourself. You just stated that Russia is selling at a steep discount. Above caps to countries that are not involved in the oil caps. How stupid are you? Selling oil at a discount, event to these countries can't go on forever. Once reserves are full, and once war reparations have to be paid, Russian oil prices will plummet. Tax revenue losses from oil and gas sales causing more inflation daily in little Vlads paradise.

Now, small protests from mothers are starting concerning their children being sent to the front with 4 days of training and no equipment. Mommies are not to be messed with and they can get daddies to do things little Vlad won't like if things don't start changing. Meanwhile Bakhmut still stands and Prigozhin is not giving great reports concerning the attempted Russian advance. "The Ukrainians are throwing up endless reserves,", "the situation in Bakhmut is very difficult, the enemy is fighting for every meter. The closer we are to the city center, the harder the battles, the more artillery works against us, and the more tanks." Interesting takes from the Chef. Doesn't sound like the huge success you little Putinazi coxuckers were hoping for.

In other news, the Russian embassy in NYC is said to be offering "repatriation" for all those Orcs in the US who want to go back and support the motherland and looking for new persons wishing to emigrate to the land of milk and honey known as Muscovy.

The Muscovite army is now more interested in weakening Wagner than in fighting the Ukrainians. Shooting will start between Muscovy and Wagner sometime soon, probably started by a dispute over alcohol rations.

From the world's best news organization:

US-Ukraine relationship 'cracking' - Politico
Vladimir Zelensky is ungrateful for Washington's support and his war aims are unrealistic, officials have told the news outlet

Although the Pentagon has suggested that holding the city is not strategically important for Ukraine, "Kiev has, for now, ignored Washington's input," the report stated.

And, as is so typical for Euros, this:

"There have been grumblings about the constant requests and, at times, Zelensky not showing appropriate gratitude," Politico wrote, citing two anonymous White House officials.

Now Novichok writes: Hey, Z, drop the hero act, fly to your mansion in Florida, and GFY. Hopefully, your countrymen will hang you Benito-style for what you have done to Ukraine.

For the record, I am proud to be the first one here who said Z is a moron and Z-P=0. And that we are spending our kids' future on another Euro bullsh*it that has zero importance to the US.

That picture above says: It's not our war!

It's not ours, either.

Meanwhile estimates of 1000 Orcs liquidated in Bakhmut in just the last week. As more reports are coming out that the Wagner group has been cut off of all resources by the Russian military because he was critical of them when Wager was having success. This being done to weaken the Wagners and to keep little Vlads Chef from gaining any more influence in the Kremlin.

More likely to keep the Wagners from becoming powerful enough to roll into Moscow and start a hostile take over.

From RT:

Hatred of Putin makes US officials 'do dumb things' - Seymour Hersh
The journalist who broke the Nord Stream sabotage story has claimed that America's leaders still behave like "cold warriors"

And Polish leaders behave as if Katyn happened last week and the KDS became a new mental disorder.


...as revealed by Z's personal assistant in an interview with the Guardian.

I suspect the figure is far higher.


Pighozhin has lost access to prisons for hos recruitment. There seems to be serious infighting among the orcs.


I wonder if Bobko will go back.