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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5



mafketis
26 Mar 2023  #2071

indestructible army on American welfare

America stands for freedom! If you don't like it, get out, commie scum and go to your russian dreamland.

Velund
26 Mar 2023  #2072

You forgot: democratic, tolerant, with an indestructible army on American welfare.

Also EU member with EUR 10k monthly pension and free tickets and coffee in Vienna opera for anyone bearing priceless ukrainian passport.

America stands for freedom!

Freedom from what?

pawian
26 Mar 2023  #2073

Back on topic edition 137
Poland offers Ukraine a railway connection which is a new road of life.
balkaninsight.com/2023/02/21/a-year-of-war-in-ukraine-the-new-railway-age/

Ukraine has set as a strategic goal the switch to European gauge and to integrate its network with the European rail system. And rail links to Poland, the biggest country on the way to Western Europe, are of particular importance, as it's these routes that got refugees out over the past year since Russia invaded Ukraine and, crucially, weapons in.

Miloslaw
26 Mar 2023  #2074

Freedom from what?

Russia......

Novichok
27 Mar 2023  #2075

I just love U propaganda...

1. Bakhmut isn't that important.
2. We will defend Bakhmut with all we have.
3. We are out of ammo.
4. We are winning.

So which one is it? In the meantime...

Quoting:

Winning more, Wagner fully captured AZOM Plant in North of Bakhmut

youtu.be/9oGkmUh2ScU

mafketis
27 Mar 2023  #2076

taking public action without local authorities approval

"local authorities approval" is not required in any of the cases cited....

see? you cower in fear at the idea of confronting government and Americans (like Poles and Ukrainians) don't.

russians = subjects

Poles, Ukrainians, Americans = citizens

learn the difference

GefreiterKania
27 Mar 2023  #2077

Russian state TV is reaching new levels of idiocy every day...

youtube.com/watch?v=MqCDKhfdlqs&t=536s

... they must be paid enormous amounts of money to be willing to make such complete and utter retards
of themselves in front of millions of people. Unbelievable... :)

Paulina
27 Mar 2023  #2078

Then Poland is insane.

No, I think Poland is awesome :)))

I much prefer such civic type of "insanity" than the authoritarian RuSSian type of insanity :)))

but cannot to do so, if protester will come to you in a public place (square or park for example)?

Yup:

youtu.be/wNRdkfVsoyw

As for "forms" of protest or manifesting, the protest can't be violent, of course, or it will get dispersed by the police. That's what would usually happen during the Independence March when some football hools would start to destroy public and private property or attack the police.

mafketis
27 Mar 2023  #2079

Moscow .... plackard.

In other words.... russia is not free because of excessive paranoia on the part of government and excessive fear and passivity on the part of the public.

No wonder free people like Ukrainians and Poles want nothing to do with your loser prison culture.... russian public.... nothing but roosters....

jon357
27 Mar 2023  #2080

And the r*SSian barracks in temporarily occupied Melitopol have been blown up; great news and a nice loud bang.

twitter.com/WarForDemocracy/status/1640233965234827266

Paulina
27 Mar 2023  #2081

Protesting the war in the spring of 1942 in the USSR would get you executed

That's different though - the USSR was getting invaded. This time RuSSia is invading another country.

NATO in Ukraine is brain tumor to Russia

No, it isn't.

If you know a better way, don't be shy...

Of course I do - make friends with your neighbours :)))

love

PolAmKrakow
27 Mar 2023  #2082

In other important news from the Kremlin, Putinazi coxucker Medvedev is said to be introducing a law proposal this week that will mak it illegal in the summer time for people to wear "white t-shirts" as the absence of any slogan, design or color will be seen as an anti war action. Said plain white t-shirt wearers will now risk five years of hard labor in Siberia.

This announcement was made as Medvedev and Putin were seen leaving the local Turkish bath house holding hands on the way to an American made Cadillac Escalade.

Novichok
27 Mar 2023  #2083

Of course I do - make friends with your neighbours :)))

The USSR and Russia asked to join NATO. They were told "no" because then NATO would lose the reason to exist and many would lose their jobs. And that US MIC...How do you make money in peacetime...That stuff doesn't rust fast enough.

This time Russia is invading another country.

Because that country:

1. Refused to sign a neutrality agreement and was invited to join NATO
2. Refused to grant Russian minority the right to self-determination

jon357
27 Mar 2023  #2084

Given that NATO exists to defend against the very real threat of r*SSia, it's hardly surprising they weren't allowed in.

No NATO state has invaded another. Imagine if r*SSia and Ukraine were in and r*SSia broke that; it would leave NATO is chaos rather than as it is now, very effective.

mak it illegal in the summer time for people to wear "white t-shirts"

They plumb new depths of silliness.

Paulina
27 Mar 2023  #2085

The USSR and Russia asked to join NATO.

RuSSia never officially requested joining NATO and as for the USSR - it did according to "a secret file unveiled by Putin". Was that request confirmed by NATO?

Also:

1. You don't have to join NATO to be friends with it - example - Finland:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland%E2%80%93NATO_relations

2. I didn't mean NATO. Do you understand the word "neighbours"? I meant countries neighbouring RuSSia. Because those are the countries that usually want to get the f*ck out as far away from the "RuSSian sphere of influence" as possible. Gee, I wonder why...?

1. Refused to sign a neutrality agreement and was invited to join NATO

What is the point of signing agreements with RuSSia if RuSSia breaks those agreements?

2. Refused to grant Russian minority the right to self-determination

RuSSia also "refused to grant Chechen minority the right to self-determination" - two wars and the capital of Chechnya razed to the ground. So, according to the RuSSian logic - RuSSia has no right to complain, sorry :)))

PolAmKrakow
27 Mar 2023  #2086

@jon357
Imagine Orc nation wanting to join NATO for what purpose? To get their hands on real effective technology and get rid of all the old $hit they are getting their as$es kicked with now? Crazy thinking.

GefreiterKania
27 Mar 2023  #2087

Macedonia will send 12 Mi-24 Hind attack choppers to Ukraine...

businessinsider.com.pl/wiadomosci/ten-kraj-przekaze-ukrainie-12-smiglowcow-bojowych/30bkt9l

Bratwurst Boy
27 Mar 2023  #2088

German Leopard 2 tanks have reached Ukraine

reuters.com/world/europe/german-leopard-2-tanks-have-reached-ukraine-security-source-2023-03-27/

At last!

...Besides the 18 main battle tanks, 40 German Marder infantry fighting vehicles, and two armoured recovery vehicles had also reached Ukraine, the security source said.

The German army trained the Ukrainian tank crews as well as the troops assigned to operate the Marder vehicles for several weeks on training grounds in Muenster and Bergen in northern Germany....


military-today.com/apc/marder.htm

jon357
27 Mar 2023  #2089

At last!

The Challengers, the Leopards and the new high-impact shells; that's probably why they've started fleeing from Crimea and are pulling back from Bakhmut.

Anything else equally stupid on your mind?

You.

Tacitus
27 Mar 2023  #2090

fleeing from Crimea and are pulling back from Bakhmut

Just another goodwill gesture I am sure ;)

cms neuf
27 Mar 2023  #2091

Zelensky once again visiting the front lines. What a leader

Putin meanwhile won't even visit Moscow anymore, let alone the war zone. A pathetic coward, willing to send thousands of young boys to die but too frightened to show his own sickly face.

Bobko
27 Mar 2023  #2092

A pathetic coward

You can call Putin many things, but he's certainly not a coward. He's survived at least a dozen assassination attempts. He grew up in a communal apartment that had rats, as an effective orphan, and got bullied so much by the bigger boys at school that he decided to take up Judo. Then he was a foreign intelligence agent, in one of the most high profile locations. They don't put people with weak nerves in those positions.

In independent Russia he went from driving cabs at night to being President. That takes a special kind of man, as well.

In fact, far from being a coward, there is something wrong with Putin's brain. He said it himself in one interview - that he has a faulty risk-assessment capability. People that work close with him, also say he doesn't have a normal person's sense of risk. This is not a good thing in a leader, so this is no boast. This lack of sensitivity to risk helped Putin in places like Abkhazia, Ossetia, Chechnya, Crimea, Syria - but may have undermined him in 2022 Ukraine.

So yes, the man is not a coward but more of a loose cannon.

Tacitus
27 Mar 2023  #2093

in one of the most high profile locations.

He was a mid-ranking agent in a secondary office of the KGB in the GDR. From what we know he was mostly a desk-jockey and never had to take any personal risks.

He never served in the army, yet has sent 80k+ Russians to die for his war. He can not even be bothered to visit the frontlines and wears bullet proof vests while posing for pictures with his personal staff in his bunker.

If he were brave, he would have admited that the war against Ukraine was a mistake and settled for a peace early on. Which would have been in the interest of Russia, but also would have increased the risk to his regime and thus him personally. And because his security takes precedence over the future of his country, he chose the former.

Korvinus
27 Mar 2023  #2094

So yes, the man is not a coward but more of a loose cannon.

I wonder, when will Putin, not his photoshopped copy, visit the soldiers on the front, those he so eagerly sent to the slaughter?

Or while we're at it, when will he visit anyone? You know, some actual human beings, that he can interact with personally, not from behind a 100 meter long table.

And I don't mean his bodyguards who so willingly dress up and pretend to be scientists or factory workers whenever some Putin's visit needs to be 'reported' by the Kremlin affiliated 'media' :-D

Let's face it, leader all the Ruskies are simping for is a stinking coward, always afraid of his shadow.

Paulina
27 Mar 2023  #2095

he has a faulty risk-assessment capability. People that work close with him, also say he doesn't have a normal person's sense of risk.

That's interesting... Would you be able to find some links to any of those interviews?

cms neuf
27 Mar 2023  #2096

Well you forgot some of his other acts of bravery - riding a horse barechested, driving tanks, flying a fighter jet, scoring 5 goals in a hockey game and deep sea diving.

Now he has a chance to drive an actual tank - so what is he waiting for ? Get him strapped into one of those patched up T34 and let him loose.

He is a coward - no two ways about it

Bobko
27 Mar 2023  #2097

when will Putin, not his photoshopped copy, visit the soldiers on the front

When did Roosevelt visit the troops during the Battle of the Bulge? Churchill - was he there to supervise the evacuation at Dunkirk, or did he direct the landing operations in Normandy? De Gaulle - he commanded the troops in Tunisia and Indochina?

Where does this standard come from? What leader behaves this way other than the media ***** that is Zelensky, in his smelly sweatshirt?

Did you read the confessions of the Israeli minister who said Zelensky only left his bunker after the Israeli communicated to him a promise from Putin "not to kill him"?

Of course what got transmitted to the world is the totally bogus quote of "I don't need a ride, I need ammunition."

How can Putin compete with a man from the entertainment world?

Novichok
27 Mar 2023  #2098

he would have admited that the war against Ukraine was a mistake and settled for a peace early on

He just told me that he is ready to settle:
1. No NATO in Ukraine
2. Self-determination for Russians
3. Crimea back with Russia.

Bobko
27 Mar 2023  #2099

Would you be able to find some links to any of those interviews

This article on Svoboda (run by Americans), has this quote:

« В ряде книг о Владимире Путине, которых уже издана целая библиотека, упоминается, что в его досье в КГБ отмечалось, и не в положительном смысле, пониженное чувство риска, и прототип приходит на ум сразу.»

The gist is that in the biographies of Putin, there are excerpts of his professional dossier from the KGB. There you can see that while they valued some of his other qualities, even the KGB noticed his "blunted sense of risk", and underlined that as a "fault".

Source: svoboda.org/amp/posledniy-most-aleksey-tsvetkov-ob-igroke-v-kazino/31742398.html

Putin is a "wild" man, even by demented Russian standards. It's why we love him so much.

cms neuf
27 Mar 2023  #2100

Well De Gaulle for one fought with great distinction in the defence of Warsaw from Russian rapists. He has a roundabout named after him in Warsaw for his courage.

One if a long line of Russian defeats - just like Kyiv, Kharkiv and Kherson.


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