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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5



mafketis
4 Apr 2023  #2281

NATO was the aggressor by supporting Ukraine militarily before the first shot was even fired

the first shot was back in 2014 when russia invaded the first time....

the weak response by the EU (esp Germany) made putain think he could go bigger the second-time-around..... fortunately now most of Europe sees the value of NATO as a hedge against russian colonial aspirations.

Korvinus
4 Apr 2023  #2282

Putler wants to restore the USSR before he dies, by any means necessary. When Rusgoblins scream about how they are poor victims of unfairness, oppressed by those damn globohomo-nationalist nazi-kikes, all they really mean is that the West is making it harder for them to re-occupy former Soviet states and annex them or put them under Kremlin-controlled puppet administrations.

NATO expansion occured because whole Central Europe wanted to separate themselves from Russia before it was able to subjugate us again. NATO was quite reluctant to allow us in. Poland had to low key threaten that we'll seek nuclear arsenal if NATO gates remain closed to us.

Korvinus
4 Apr 2023  #2283

RUSSIA took back what belonged to them.

Access does not mean ownership.

Typical Russian approach: steal something, and when the robbed party tries to take it back scream "robbery!".

Understand this: noone wants to be Russian brother. Noone wants to be in one state with majority Russian population or allied with Russia. Every nation occupied by the Soviet Union escaped at the first opportunity. Whoever had the chance, landed under the protective umbrella of NATO.

Russians are universally hated and for a good reason. This war only proves that those accused of 'Russophobia' were right all along.

PolAmKrakow
4 Apr 2023  #2284

@Crnogorac3
You know what else they made disappear? The demographic data concerning the number of Serbian women having children from black US soldiers after NATO left. Crazy number there! lol

In the news that actually means something. Another 2.6 billion from the US to Ukraine including lots of new HIMARS ammunition. More dog food on the way. Soon it will become the new export for Ukraine to all those countries with starving dogs.

Velund
4 Apr 2023  #2285

NATO is a defensive pact.

And how many defensive operations was performed by NATO during its existence?

mafketis
4 Apr 2023  #2286

Saint Petersburg: Hohols Kill Blogger in Terrorist Attack

ha ha ha !!!! Seete little montenegrin.... seethe and hiss and snap like a caged animal!

how many defensive operations was performed by NATO

cope harder and get out of Ukraine! putain did more to strengthen and expand NATO than anyone! ha ha ha ha ha and stupid loser russians still love and worship him....

sad broken culture that no one else wants.....

jon357
4 Apr 2023  #2287

And how many defensive operations

A sign of NATO's strength and quality is that it hasn't needed to.

How many times has r*SSia invaded other countries within living memory?

55

johnny reb
4 Apr 2023  #2288

Access does not mean ownership.

Then maybe Poland should give back the land they stole from Ukraine. :-o

Korvinus
4 Apr 2023  #2289

maybe Poland should give back the land they stole from Ukraine

What land do you mean?

pawian
4 Apr 2023  #2290

Akcija "Wisla"?

The problem is that Lemko people are not Ukrainian. They consider themselves a seperate ethnicity, originating from Balkan Vlachs. Ha!!!! They started settling in the area in 14th century. Ha! Ha! Ha!

jon357
4 Apr 2023  #2291

They consider themselves a separate ethnicity,

Indeed.

He comes across as very bitter about NATO, the most effective and high-quality defensive alliance in the world. Of course it was set up due to the threat from r*SSia. Not that the threat is that great any more since they are being beaten by Ukraine, supported by training, equipment and intelligence which they have requested from their democratic allies.

Interesting that he assumes that individual politicians are making money from this; he should realise that the democratic west is not a kleptocracy like r*SSia and generally politicians do not steal public funds.

There are very dark and difficult times ahead for r*SSia as it spirals in a terminal decline. Even when Putler is removed from office, it's probably too late for them.

A three day 'special operation' that's dragged on for over a year, with r*SSia reduced to using 1950s tanks and buying sub-standard weapons from North Korea. They have lost 180,000 of their soldiers and are being humiliated daily on the battlefield.

And Bakhmut still hasn't fallen.

pawian
4 Apr 2023  #2292

all Ukrainians

That is dirty job of Russian wiki hackers who write Ukrainians instead of Lemko to sow ferment between Poles and Ukrainians. I have read an article about it.

jon357
4 Apr 2023  #2293

Putin wanted to weaken NATO. It got stronger. Putin wanted to form a partnership with China. He is subservient to China. Putin wanted to restore the Soviet Union. He encouraged the ex-Soviet Union to join the EU and NATO. Putin wanted a strong military. His generals cannot take a town. Putin wanted a strong economy. He is faking McDonalds

Putin is a failure on so many levels

PolAmKrakow
5 Apr 2023  #2294

9news.com.au/world/russia-ukraine-update-elite-vladimir-putin-bodyguard-defects-to-west/d29e133e-19e2-43c8-8651-b45fe905c5e1

The words of a real insider. Not some Putinazi coxuckers here who know nothing really other than what their mommies jammed down their throats.

jon357
5 Apr 2023  #2295

And it looks like Ukraine is going to liberate Melitopol.

Great news!

PolAmKrakow
5 Apr 2023  #2296

Now there are multiple reports of little Vlad and the Putinazi coxuckers using chemical agents from WW I on the front lines. Last week, about 12 attempts were made to drop such ammunition from Russian aerial reconnaissance drones. Chloropicrin is a volatile liquid that was used as a combat poison agent during the First World War. Its vapors (at concentrations from 0.002 mg / dm³) strongly irritate the mucous membranes of the eyes and respiratory tract, causing tearing, sneezing and coughing. At concentrations above 0.1 mg/dm³, it has a suffocating effect. In the liquid state, it causes skin burns.

Nothing says successful military operation like the desperate use of WW I grade weapons. Reaching the bottom of the barrel? Speaking of the bottom of the barrel, it is said that Moscow is now importing Serbian strippers to replace the Russian ones that are being sold into slavery in the middle east. Unfortunately, due to western sanctions, the Serbian strippers do not have access to razors and will be sent to Siberia where the extra warmth is needed. Happy gulag biatches!

Bobko
5 Apr 2023  #2297

And it looks like Ukraine is going to liberate Melitopol.

Did you get a call from the Chief of the Ukrainian General Staff this morning?

My handler in Moscow Control will be most pleased. After years of being on PF, I'm finally starting to generate actionable intelligence.

jon357
5 Apr 2023  #2298

No, he's busy defeating r*SSia.

Plenty about the future liberation of Melitopol ln here: telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/04/05/ukraine-russia-war-latest-news-putin-finland-nato-zelensky/

And Crimea next.

Bobko
5 Apr 2023  #2299

@jon357

What a strange war. The purpose of an offensive is explained weeks in advance. The exact amount of ammunition available, is telegraphed months in advance. The exact quantity of armor is also known to all. Reportages are made from training grounds, showing units practicing breaching fortified positions.

I'll be truly disappointed with my country's armed forces, if the Ukrainians are not left with a bloody nose after this offensive. The Ukrainians are operating under these conditions not through their own choice, but because they're being assisted by a syndicate of 20+ countries - each of which wants to boast of its contribution. Similarly, Ukraine does not want to seem ungrateful, so it underlines every delivery and promises to "put it to good use".

Strange war.

That is, it's as if it's being communicated to the Russians: "Hold on for this one last push. We have no more weapons to give them after this. Look - here's the full list! Just eat through this quantity, and you're made."

jon357
5 Apr 2023  #2300

What a strange war.

Putler shouldn't have started it then, should he.

I'll be truly disappointed with my country's armed forces

You should be anyway.

A three-day 'special operation' that's lasted over a year and Bakhmut still holds as Melitopol is being liberated.

And r*SSia is now a pariah state forced to buy faulty weapons from North Korea,

Novichok
5 Apr 2023  #2301

I'll be truly disappointed with my country's armed forces,

Is Russia suffering from the same mental disorder that Germany is? I mean an incurable and paralyzing sense of guilt for past sins?
If Putin is ever removed, it should be for being too timid.

mafketis
5 Apr 2023  #2302

if the Ukrainians are not left with a bloody nose

Haven't russian vampires had enough of Ukrainian blood? What is wrong with russia?

It's clear from everywhere russia has been in Ukraine that the goal was ethnocide... elminate the words 'Ukraine' and 'Ukrainian' from peoples lips and minds and if that wasn't successful just kill them en masse...

That's why everywhere in Europe (except russian vassal states like Hungary or Serbia) are against russia... Europeans don't like conquest and they don't like ethnocide....

russia meanwhile is stuck in its primitive past dreaming of killing peoples by the millions....

shameful loser culture that no one wants....

PolAmKrakow
5 Apr 2023  #2303

@Bobko
Thankfully though everyone underestimted how many Russian women would leave for "work" in the middle east and Poland. Selling their "services" not for the war effort, but to eat. The real beauty is that they will never return to Russia, they will become the enemy of Russia, and so will those children they have.

Someone once pointed out that Russia took more than 20% of Ukraine. That same someone later said it was now 18%. Winning, is not measured in lost percentages or increased death toll. Fvck Russia and you coxuckers coming here to argue in support of it. Fvcking mental midgets.

Novichok
5 Apr 2023  #2304

That same someone later said it was now 18%

...and 90% of GNP.
BTW, there are no Russian soldiers in Ukraine so what is all that nonsense about...

mafketis
5 Apr 2023  #2305

...and 90% of GNP.

Yes, it's true.... russia brings with it poverty, destruction, the normalization of violence and theft.... is that what you love about russia?

no Russian soldiers in Ukraine

Why lie? Of course russian soldiers are in Ukraine.... no one sane or honest recognizes the phony 'referendum' held in Donbas.... so which is your exemption?

pawian
5 Apr 2023  #2306

and theft.... is that what you love about russia?

Exactly.

Novi, do you need a new toilet seat in your house??? Go to a shop or order it online, instead of counting on Russian troops to steal it in Ukraine and send it to you. Are you really so impoverished ??

Bobko
5 Apr 2023  #2307

is that what you love about russia?

People either love Russia, or hate it. There is no "in-between".

Alien
5 Apr 2023  #2308

either love Russia, or hate it. There

Russia, what is russia?

mafketis
5 Apr 2023  #2309

There is no "in-between".

I used to not think about russia at all. I generally hoped that russians might stop letting their government treat them like trash, but I guess russians like that.

And then putain invaded Ukraine started killing Ukrainians en masse and now I don't hate it.... I look down on and despise it the way I despise the mafia or con artists or any scum that preys on the weak (but I guess russians like that too).

A primitive and vile culture that no one wants, much less needs...

Bobko
5 Apr 2023  #2310

Russia, what is russia?

A little country located in Europe. Not to be confused with Prussia! Those were truly unpleasant fellows.


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