Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 5

@Bobko, so by "nicknames" he didn't mean the personal nicknames of the mercenaries in the video, but names of battalion's subgroups?

@Paulina

How things are going you will soon change your name to Dmytro or Volodymyr.

@Paulina

No, not quite.

In the US army, any battalion company is labeled as Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta (for example). Then, the US also has specific numbers intended to designate specific positions (6 is employed for commanding officers, for example). So if you were trying to find the commanding officer of Bravo company, of the 2nd battalion, of the 7th regiment (made up formations), you would say into the radio:

Bravo 2/7, actual 6

This is much better than saying, "I would like you to go find Lt. Col. Johnson, and get him on the phone ASAP". If anyone else is listening, they will know that there is a certain high ranking officer named Johnson, somewhere in the area.

To avoid this issue, Russians also use anonymous terms, but much more artistic ones. They might say something like, "Sparta company, get me Mujahid". This is not formal, or official, and no one is making anyone do this - as far as I know, but just how it seems to work in this war. Comms people will work out a list of who's who, and continue to use those in communications. It could just as easily have been a random collection of letters and numbers, like in the US, it's just done differently.

Does this make sense?

Ah, OK, I think I get it... So, in every battalion company the commanding officer is called, for example, "Mujahid", instead of a number like in the US? 🤔


I don't get it...

No, the name is intended to be somewhat unique, though across 1,600km of front line and hundreds of thousands of people there are inevitably many duplicates.

The formal, official process in the Soviet Army, and now in the Russian army is that every discrete radio station is assigned an identifying call sign that is dictated by certain protocols according to which communications people are supposed to generate these call signs. Inventing random names for oneself, that fit one's personality and outlook on the cosmos, is not encouraged and prohibited. However, in practice everyone seems to get to choose their own names anyway. As a result, you get a lot of "Rambos", "Zorros", "Platos", "Zeuses", etc.

Bottom line, they are basically nicknames, but nicknames for specific people who use specific radio stations.

So basically the Muscovite army is poorly disciplined and can't follow simple security procedures. No surprise there - in fact it's amazing they found anyone sober enough to turn the radio on

I thought the Poles were a much more serious nation. This fool is their prime minister. This is equivalent to the lowest of the low levels of UK tabloids like the Sun or the Daily Mail.

twitter.com/MorawieckiM/status/1646139085205938177

Ah, OK...


I feel for them then... lol

Wow, judging by what you wrote that Medvedev guy could really help to identify the perpetrators, I guess...

and so stupid they are incapable of realizing they are not in their own country --- what a hopeless and terrible country.

there is no coherent military goal that they can accomplish now (maybe 'take' bakhmut once nothing whatsoever is left of it\

instead they are despised in europe, will never be trusted again and have all but guaranteed the extinction of the russian language in Ukraine (which was never 'banned' no matter what retarded RT propaganda claimed....

and most russians are too dull and vicious to be able to process any of it...

It looks like it could be his beheading "debut" judging by what is being said by one of them in the video:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11964189/Kyiv-compares-Russia-ISIS-sickening-video-Putins-soldiers-beheading-Ukrainian-POW.html

"The victim is seen writhing on the forest floor, screaming 'it hurts!' and 'stop!' as his murderer, wearing a white ribbon associated with Russian forces, hacks at his arteries with the steel blade.

A voice from another apparent Russian fighter taunts the killer to behead and break the spine of the stricken man.

'Send it to Kyiv, *****,' a voice says in a foul-mouthed rant. 'Cut it off, *****! Break the spine!'

'What, you never cut a head off, *****? Do it, do it, do it, *****!'

The video concludes with the executioner holding the decapitated, bloodied head up to the camera as he is told to 'bag it and send it to the commander'.

Sickening. Sick monsters.


They better give him a good protection in that prison in Norway...

This Medvedev guy is full of sh!t. He's sitting in a deportation jail. If he gets deported, then I think something worse than what happened to that poor Ukrainian soldier awaits him. So of course he recognizes all the call signs, and recognizes voices. If you gave him another 2 minutes, he would probably say he was actually standing slightly to the side, out of shot, and did his utmost to prevent that barbarous act. He'll gladly testify at Putin's war crimes tribunal too, where he'll say that the beheading was done after a call from the Kremlin.

No trust in traitors. Wouldn't give too much weight to what he says.

@Bobko, I was also wondering if he's lying in order to improve his situation... But you yourself wrote that you're betting that Wagner did this. So, considering Medvedev was in Wagner Group and judging by what you wrote about the nicknames -isn't it likely that he's able to recognise their radio call signs?

@Paulina

I do think Wagner did this, but simply am not willing to trust the words of a traitor. In theory, he was high level enough, to have some familiarity with a wide range of call signs. While Wagner is a small enough military organization that it's still possible for a person like him to know people, who know people, etc, or to have overheard the names in radio chatter (it used to be a few thousand men, then with the convicts got expanded to some 40-50K).

Besides being a traitor, the man is a criminal. He's not old school Wagner, of the Syrian, Malian, DRC, Libya-stock, but a fresh Wagnerite out of prison (summer 2022).

If I were to guess, based on what was happening in that video, it's a relatively inexperienced Wagnerite, being goaded on by a brain-dead Wagnerite who fought ISIS in Syria and Mali. Those are the guys that came up with bludgeoning people with sledgehammers and crucifying deserters like in ancient Rome. Fighting ISIS (remember the ISIS fighter who cut out a guy's liver and ate it on camera?), these guys became pretty autistic themselves. When they found themselves in Ukraine, they stuck to old habits. This is where the experience with snapping someone's spine to make cutting off the head easier must come from. If I had to guess.

Not people you or I would like to shake hands with :)

But Wagner are Muscovites - under the control of Putin.

@cms neuf

My own position is that they are an embarrassment to Russia. I know a lot of people support my view. Not everything has to be copied from the West. Blackwater/Academi were a bunch of war criminals and psycopaths, and Wagner is too.

Their innovative tactics, special attention to equipment, and flexibility when dealing with cadres is something we can certainly learn from, but we should not allow this cancer to exist in the body of our state for too long.

I hate to use this example, but the attitude is kind of like the attitude of the Wehrmacht towards the Waffen SS. These guys are basically a modern Dirlewanger Brigade. They besmirch the name of the Russian military, regardless of the victories they may bring.

Agreed completely.
You are a Russian with a sense of morality.
Rare these days.

They are definitely their own breed that can not handle a civilized society.

Compare this to outcome of 1990's referendums, ignored by Kiev. For example to one, where Crimeans tried to use their privileges, guaranteed by Republic of Crimea constitution, but instead got nationalistic paramilitary forces on the streets and their Constitution abolished by Kiev.

Yes. That would actually be a great idea. This war cannot be won; continuing it just for the sake of it is completely nonsensical, and even if by some miracle Russia managed to defeat the Ukrainian army then how large a force would you have to use to occupy and subdue a 40-million country? From economic, political and demographic point of view "calling off the war and going home" definitely makes a lot of sense.

I'm not that concerned about the corruption that Seymour Hersh detailed in his latest article. It's expected in a war zone and Ukraine is only in its first steps in reforming from being a post soviet oligarchy, but his reporting of deep disagreements between the White House and some intelligence agencies is more worrying. This possibly explain the recent leaks, and does not portent well for damaging revelations by Republican factions of the intelligence community leading up to the US election, that will erode public support for Ukraine.

"Meanwhile, Hersh, citing an intelligence official, said that the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines and lack of strategic planning with regard to Ukraine had caused a growing rift between the White House and the US intelligence community."

"There is a total breakdown between the White House leadership and the intelligence community," the intelligence official was quoted by Hersh as saying."

eurasiantimes.com/ukraine-war-zelensky-embezzled-400-million-allocated-by-the-us-for-purchasing-fuel-seymour-hersh/

seymourhersh.substack.com/p/trading-with-the-enemy

But Russia already had Crimea before the full-scale invasion and the whole world pretty much accepted it; there's a Russian ethnic majority there, so a bit like Kosovo case. The problem is that after taking Crimea Russians became too greedy and devised the "brilliant" plan of restoring the Soviet Union; taking Ukraine was supposed to be the first step. Somehow, however, not everything went according to the plan (to put it very mildly).

Russia has nobody else but themselves to blame for the deep sh*t they find themselves in at the moment. If only they limited their greed to Crimea and concentrated on the 17 million or so square kilometres of land currently in their possession they would still have their economy intact, still have the EU in hand with NS and NS2 and 200,000 of their soldiers would still be alive (the largest country on Earth but with population lower than Bangladesh and negative population growth rate can hardly afford such losses), 1 million educated people wouldn't flee the country, their military would still be considered one of the best in the world etc. etc.

Seriously, looking at the world history in general one would be hard-pressed to find a more retarded decision than starting this war by Russia. However, continuing it despite everything is just a completely different level of idiocy. Unbelievable.

The Atlantic Council will host a Front Page event featuring Prime Minister of the Republic of Poland Mateusz Morawiecki. This conversation will take place virtually on Thursday, April 13, from 8:30 a.m. to 9:30 a.m. ET.

Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine has unleashed a scale of violence and destruction not seen in Europe since World War II that has fundamentally restructured Europe's security landscape. At the eastern flank of the transatlantic alliance, Poland plays an even more consequential role in the continent's security.

atlanticcouncil.org/event/a-conversation-with-prime-minister-of-poland-mateusz-morawiecki/

The release of top secret documents is being traced to a man in his 20's with military training and experience. They were first released in a chat room on Discourd. The chat room operators are cooperating. When this kid is caught, he is either going to prison for a long time or will die in a shootout.

On another note. Serbia is sending weapons to Ukraine. In an effort to give NATO a bj and suck up to the US, Serbia is trying its best to join the protective ranks of the EU. Isn't that great! Serbia falling in line. lmao

@Crnogorac3
Shocker, states, governments having means to influence others.

Main difference here is that U.S.A has No reason nor will not have any to invade Poland militarily. Which is Poland's main concern regarding, allies, neighbours or any political entity on the globe.

And even if U.S.A decided to invade Poland, there would be a huge chance of U.S.A backing off eventually. In which U.S.A is willing to accept as long business is being done.

Russia on the other hand does not behave in similar fashion and has to be driven out with a stick in hand at every possible opportunity.

It was a shock and possible chance for Russia with the withdrawal of the red army from the collapse of the Soviet Union. Making Gorbatschev one of the most prominent leadera of Russia who gave Russian leadership the chance and possibility to reshape european relations, but it becomes more and more evident, day by day in Ukraine that it was a miscalculation and misinterpretation of merely a book keeper fixing his financial Numbers.

It is up to Russians to decide if this view is wrong or correct, if Russia sees itself as wanting to rule the world or is part of the world despite her dislike about it, and how it is.

Simply a choice of having a grudge or creating more grudges among others.

Which road will modern Russia take? Is it's youth destined for graves or glory? Will it be the old of Russia or the new of Russia ruling it's future

Then why is he still in NATO? What a whiny little b7tch he is...

Meanwhile there is an acute teacher shortage because they don't vote for him and they hardly get paid anything... but he clearly thinks an educated population is a threat so the exodus continues....

Orban is a disaster for Hungary (and Europe).

@mafketis
Same reason Hungary was part of the Axis during ww2. They didn't want to get invaded by Germany then, and wanted to be part of the allies.

Just like just they don't want to be bombed by NATO or invaded by NATO in any form

Minor nations, minor political opponents tend to do that.

Few European countries are part of EU or NATO not out of security concerns or economical benefits.

The fact that this information was released to the media, instead of his friends having the fear of god put into them by the intelligence services, means he's just a patsy

@amiga500
Discourd is a pretty slick messaging and chat system. The story is he shared this in a group chat with a dozen or so people. Then someone in that chat took it and released it to social media. Regular media were not given the documents, they found out a few days after this happened. The people in the group chat are sharing everything with authorities, and so is the service provider. With all the electronic data, and ways to track this stuff, it is only a matter of time. The person responsible is obviously either active military or someone in the family is in order to get this stuff. That narrows the list quite a bit. Patsy maybe, my guess is some stupid guy trying to show off or someone with a death wish to die by shoot out.

so why is it so public? it's like osama just after 9-11, stinks to high heaven.

US intelligence factions visa vis Biden/Sullivan/Blinken have a big problem here, and it will only get worse leading up to the election. Hopefully Loyd Austin can right the ship. God help Ukraine.

@amiga500
Clearly US intelligence haven't got the impression of being rewarded enough for it's work regarding information about imminent Russian invasion of Ukraine and takes it out somehow, or is a Russian psy-op to indicate it as a possibility for internal American conflicts to explode