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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7



Novichok
12 Nov 2023  #4171

Do you mean that or something else?

Something else. Germans were happy to get rid of me. I was too argumentative.

you live in crumbling shacks while your government steals money from you and you can't do anything about it....

Are we talking about Appalachia or the homeless in LA, Chicago, and NYC?

ConstantineK
12 Nov 2023  #4172

Germans were happy to get rid of me. I was too argumentative.

Ho-ho...., germans are trying to get rid of there germanness, let along you...

mafketis
12 Nov 2023  #4173

Are we talking about Appalachia

Silly russia apologist.... we're talking about russia.... the difference is that in the US there is hope of change while in russia.... nothin'

Novichok
12 Nov 2023  #4174

the difference is that in the US there is hope of change while in russia.... nothin'

The US is past the tipping point - ethnically and financially. If you know how to pay off 33 trillion in debt let Biden know. We have to borrow to pay interest alone!

Those two curves are damning and beyond recovery without something dramatic like a bloody revolution and default on the debt. Many already have the "it's not my country anymore" attitude. To the best of my understanding, Russia is not even close to this.

In fact, sanctions were a wake-up call and good for Russia - a country big enough to be truly independent of Western nihilism and moral rot.

In Russia, patriotism is not a dirty word and Russian patriots are not "fascists".

jon357
12 Nov 2023  #4175

the difference is that in the US there is hope of change while in russia.... nothin'

Quite. Whatever someone may think about any given administration, one of those two countries is rooted in democracy and the other is not.

mafketis
12 Nov 2023  #4176

truly independent of Western nihilism and moral rot

Did you watch the film? Lots of nihilism and rot there as well.... people have to pay the russian equivalent of czynsz and get nothing in return... they're living in buildings that have been declared unfit for people for almost 10 years.... yet no one really cares....

Novichok
13 Nov 2023  #4177

one of those two countries is rooted in democracy

BS. The retention rate in the USSR was 99%. In the US it's 96%. The same crap.
We even elect insane people as long as they are approved by the machine.

Quoting:

As of July 29, 2023, 27 political parties are officially registered in the Russian Federation, 25 of which have the right to participate in elections.

Five political parties were elected to the State Duma: United Russia (324), CPRF (57), A Just Russia - For Truth (27), LDPR (21), New People (13). There are also 5 independent members of the State Duma. Representatives of political parties elected to the State Duma formed five factions.


In the US, we have a party and a half aka Demoplicans.

Why do ignorant Russia haters make me want to throw up...Weird...

jon357
13 Nov 2023  #4178

they're living in buildings that have been declared unfit for people for almost 10 years

And of course many of them were barely fit for use in the first place.

One good thing is that Ukraine is expected to have temperatures above zero and intermittent heavy rain for the next few weeks. The r*SSian push to take Avdiivka is likely to be very costly for them in terms of orcs and vehicles and likely to fail.

Novichok
13 Nov 2023  #4179

Hey, Z, now I love you, man...Quoting:

Ukraine will fight without US - Zelensky
Kiev will only relent after seizing all the territories it claims as its own, president warns


When you are done chasing Russians out, please come to the US and help us deport the illegal scum. I will vote for you if you decide to run for president.

mafketis
13 Nov 2023  #4180

CW: disturbing (though not graphic) video

russian soldier shows the aftermath of a Ukrainian strike against a russian base/barracks

What the putain licking morons tell the families of the soldiers... what did they die for?

twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1724005357452775930

Meanwhile russia spent a lot of money to attack a civilian family, giving a two-month old baby a head injury, seriously injuring its mother and killing its grandfather... russia, finding its place in the sun....

twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1724040254250701245

Tacitus
13 Nov 2023  #4181

What the putain licking morons tell the families of the soldiers... what did they die for

A question many Russians will have to ask themselves in the future. An utterly senseless war from the Russian perspective.

Mr Grunwald
13 Nov 2023  #4182

@Tacitus
Many Russians believe to this very day that Gorbachev instead of making the hard choice and reduce and limit wasting, brought down the Soviet Union on purpose. He was salvaging whatever he could. Putin is now unleashing as much scraps and trash and money he can find and get to try to uphold an image which has no basis in reality, he knows too well that if Russia's politicians begin to analyse and self criticise themselves it will most likely lead to a civil war which they want to avoid at all cost

Too little love for Russia and too much self interest, just like pre-partitioned Poland. They bear the curse of decadence

Novichok
13 Nov 2023  #4183

An utterly senseless war from the Russian perspective.

Can you guarantee that without this war NATO and the US flags would never fly over Sevastopol to the annoyance of Russia?

to try to uphold an image which has no basis in reality

Yes, genius, Putin sent thousands to their deaths and spent billions just to "uphold an image". I guess 80% approval wasn't enough. Can you spell "moron"?

BTW, you forgot NATO. Yes, that NATO which moved right to Russia's doorstep in spite of the promises not to do it.

Now, children, we will learn what "go apeshit" means and how to use it properly. So pay attention...

The US would go apeshit if Mexico joined the Warsaw Pact.
Also:
Russia has no reason whatsoever to go apeshit because NATO is sweet and cuddly like Masha's bear.

Cookies are over here...

Your next assignment: Explain why PF Poles are idiots.

mafketis
13 Nov 2023  #4184

US flags would never fly over Sevastopol to the annoyance of Russia

Something tells me they're gonna be flyin' here...

Peter Zeihan on the collapse of russian naval power (irony! the war has all but destroyed russia's naval capabilities in the Black Sea...) they can't even use Sevastopol now! ha ha h ah ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

youtube.com/watch?v=vJfDKlnWYuA

Novichok
13 Nov 2023  #4185

Something tells me they're gonna be flyin' here...

When you see one, please post the photo.

Russia doesn't need a navy. Navies are tools of aggression and that is why the world's dumbest cop has 10 aircraft carrier groups - neither one protecting the US.

jon357
13 Nov 2023  #4186

brought down the Soviet Union on purpose

There are conspiracy theories about that, including a popular one in r*SSi called the 'Golden Billion.'

Russia doesn't need a navy.

Yet they had three huge ones. Now they've only got two rusting ones.

mafketis
13 Nov 2023  #4187

ussia doesn't need a navy

good thing! So then it doesn't need Sevastopol or the rest of Crimea either..... so the sooner they leave the sooner russians stop dying for nothing.... stupid russians dying for a dictator... U - R = better!

Mr Grunwald
13 Nov 2023  #4188

@Novichok
You are very silly to think that you can give out assignments, is a boss of some sort or principal. You would be first to be in the livery in any village and given breadcrumbs for entertainment purposes caused by your foolish actions or stories: "M O R O N"

Novichok
13 Nov 2023  #4189

So then it doesn't need Sevastopol or the rest of Crimea either.

The US doesn't need its navy, either. In the event of a major war with China or Russia, those aircraft carriers would last 30 minutes. Subs are a different matter.

You are very silly to think that you can give out assignments,

Do you have an explanation for why PF Poles are idiots? I am serious.
Russians are fine. So are Germans. Americans like Joker and PAK are pure genius. It's the Poles that are idiots - with pawian as number one.

I wonder if it's Polish DNA or personal defects.

PolAmKrakow
13 Nov 2023  #4190

The Russian mentality I have dealt with personally is a blend of myth as much as it is selective historical accounts. The Great War and the victory are truly clouded ememories of how things actually transpired. Lend lease from the US is completely ignored in Russian history, and their victory would not have happened if not for the US generosity. Everyone in Europe should be sending Japan thank you notes for Pearl Harbor every December 7th. This distortions of Stalin, and the rest are really just that, somplete distortions. The Romanovs treated society terribly, and society traded that in for something worse. The 18th century master painting they are trying to believe represents their culture and history is really a bad color by numbers from the out of busines Wolworths.

To be fair, Ukraine has a distorted view of their history as well. I think this can be said about most countries collectively. Its seems though that most of the former Soviet countries really have rose colored glasses on when they look at themselves and their past. The US certainly has a distorted view of itself historically as well.

The facts are really quite simple with the war. More Russians have been killed and wounded than Ukraines. Russia will keep sending men to the front to be killed and wounded and Ukraine will eventually run out of ammunition before Russia runs out of men. That is unless the US comes to the rescue with weapons. And that is likely to happen, but there wont be any more cash going to Ukraine. So the EU has to step up. The question is, will the EU step up? Will Z make Ukraine a war time economy? Will Z do a full mobilization? Why hasnt Ukraine done a full mobilization? Thats a real interesting question I would like answered.

Velund
13 Nov 2023  #4191

It's the Poles that are idiots - with pawian as number one.

Chances that Poles are idiots because idiocy champion is their teacher... ;) ;)

Tacitus
13 Nov 2023  #4192

Can you guarantee that without this war NATO and the US flags would never fly over Sevastopol to the annoyance of Russia?

And the possibility of such an "annoyance" in the far future is a good enough reason to sacrifice the lifes of 200k + Russian people and permanently weaken the Russian economy and military.

spite of the promises not to do it.

No such promises were ever made.

The US would go apeshit if Mexico joined the Warsaw Pact.

Senseless speculation. You claim they would have gone apeshit, I claim they would never have invaded them. In the end, the USA has not invaded Mexico, but Russia has invaded Ukraine despite making several promises not to do so.

The USA has made a promise not to invade Cuba. And unlike Russia, the USA keeps its' word.

Bobko
13 Nov 2023  #4193

In the end, the USA has not invaded Mexico

Except it did.

As a result of the 1846-48 Mexican-American War, Mexico ceded to the U.S. present-day California, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, and Nevada, Arizona, and parts of Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska and Wyoming.

What a great neighbor America is!

In a quote from Charles Sumner's "Objections to the Mexican-American War", he stated "Certainly Mexico might justly charge our citizens with disgraceful robbery."

Lincoln built his early political career, by deriding the Mexican-American war as the most despicable and shameful thing in the country's history.

By the way, the United States also tried to annex Canada. The only thing that put a tamper on it, was the British burning the White House down.

This means, America has attacked the only two neighbors with which it has a land border. Of course it didn't stop there, and invaded the rest of its "near abroad". Like the invasion of Cuba, on the false pretense of the Cubans sinking an American ship in Havana harbor.

Yes, America - a shining beacon of freedom.

mafketis
13 Nov 2023  #4194

What a great neighbor America is!

Thank you! What a lovely thing to say!

America - a shining beacon of freedom.

You're making me blush!

jon357
13 Nov 2023  #4195

Looks like TASS let something slip today and tried to backtrack...


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Bobko
13 Nov 2023  #4196

Thank you! What a lovely thing to say!

I'll say more.

Unlike you, we typically pick on enemies our own size, or those supported by enough parties to make it a fun and interesting affair.

You seem to get your jollies up by trampling over various Bantustans and banana republics.

mafketis
13 Nov 2023  #4197

Unlike you, we typically pick on enemies our own size

Russia vs the giant mega-state of Lithuania!!!!!!! Who will win??????

Bobko
13 Nov 2023  #4198

Russia vs the giant mega-state of Lithuania!!!!!!!

America vs the galactic superpower that is Grenada! Who will prevail?

Bobko
13 Nov 2023  #4199

In the end, nothing can beat America and friends killing 200-300K Afghans, and half a million Iraqis - over the killing of 2,996 Americans by jetliners operated by SAUDI highjackers.

Those stupid Afghans and Iraqis certainly didn't see it coming. No one, in those regions, had as highly developed a sense of logic and causation to correctly interpret the omens of impending apocalypse.

America rightly came in and ruined their lives for the next 4-5 generations.

mafketis
13 Nov 2023  #4200

Who will prevail?

Fortunately the US since a marxist revolutionary was killing civilians for no reason (yeah, I know, you're jealous).

nothing can beat America

Very true! No matter how mad that makes you....


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