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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7



Paulina
21 Aug 2023  #661

My point is that history is rhyming itself.

Yes, it is. RuSSia has used the same propaganda to justify the invasion of Ukraine as Nazi Germany used to invade Poland.

We are on the verge of WW3

Because of RuSSia. RuSSia started a war in Europe, not Poland or NATO.

and again and again Pokand is offering its territory as battle ground.

No, it isn't. It's RuSSia that sees Poland and other neighbours this way. We know that and that's why we joined NATO and we will stay there as long as possible.

May be it is right time to step back and draw conclusions?

Could you please offer this advice to RuSSia? Because it keeps making the same horrible mistakes over and over again.

As for Poland - we did draw conclusions. That's why we are not only in the EU and NATO, but we're also strengthening our army and defences.

Please cut down on your quotes

ConstantineK
21 Aug 2023  #662

Look, i can understand polish sentiments against Russia though personally i see no reasons for them. However it is beyond my understanding the Poland's choice of allies such as the US and UK. Why Poles do not see obvious ends of this policy. They will simply use and trash it.

jon357
22 Aug 2023  #663

sentiments against Russia

personally i see no reasons for them

Most other people in the developed word do see them.

The illegal and unprovoked invasion of a neighbouring state, mass looting, civilians in Bucharest murdered with their hands tied behind their backs, the theatre in Mariupol (with "children here" in big letters on the roof) destroyed by Thermobaric bombs, there's also r*SSia's contempt for democracy, insane levels of corruption, oligarchs robbing the country while millions of people don't have indoor toilets or plumbing. And much much more.

it is beyond my understanding the Poland's choice of allies such as the US and UK

A million Poles went to the U.K. and many more have visited. Many have family members in America. Most city dwellers in PL have met people from one or both of those countries. Poland has a long tradition of vigorous democracy and Poles are very good at making their own minds up. People in Poland can see what they prefer and it is not life without showers or toilets at home, it is not a kleptocratic autocracy and it certainly is not the butchers of Bucha.

amiga500
22 Aug 2023  #664

someone may want to "reconstitute" RuSSia in more "decent" borders one day.

In the next 5-10 years I firmly believe. China, Japan, Mongolia, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Turkey, Poland, Baltic States, Finland, EVERYONE wants a piece. And if the ruski cake is crumbling, it's not unethical geopolitics to catch the pieces before they fall on the floor.

Not to mention all those nascent independence movements inside Russia itself that will form nation-states. . Central Urals Republic, Dagestan Independent Caliphate, and the Siberian Indigenous Peoples Federation roll very easily off the tongue.

ConstantineK
22 Aug 2023  #665

plumbing

Bucha, mass shooting in head, no toilets, etc. I am just rolling my eyes when i hear such idiotic and blatant pieces of western propaganda. Please invent something new.

Poland has a long tradition of vigorous democracy

Since when Poland had long tradition of democracy? What time do you mean exactly? Lets parse it together :)

max321
22 Aug 2023  #666

We are on the verge of WW3

but you said Russia was winning and Ukraine on the brink of collapse - why should there be WW3 in such case?

cms neuf
22 Aug 2023  #667

Nothing invented about the fact that 30 million Udmurtians are starting their day by swilling buckets of their own dung into a hole - those are official statistics so the number is much higher probably.

ConstantineK
22 Aug 2023  #668

but you said Russia was winning and Ukraine on the brink of collapse - why should there be WW3 in such case?

Unsolving problems within the West. Capitalism is pregnant with war.

amiga500
22 Aug 2023  #669

I am just rolling my eyes when i hear such idiotic and blatant pieces of western

You deny that the idiotic Buryat or Mongolian platoon commander massacred your fellow Slav civilians in Bucha? And the low Iq lemming russian (also mostly slav) soldiers under his command just followed his orders? It's almost like they were drinking a bottle of vodka in the morning and couldn't think..

GefreiterKania
22 Aug 2023  #670

People, people - after almost 2 years of this thread (part 1 started before the invasion) are we really back to "Russkies - they have no toilets" arguments? Please, don't let this obvious Ukrainian agent provocateur bring out the worst in you.

Udmurtians

I already told you - Udmurtians are lovely people (did you watch the video I linked about them?). Calling all Russians Udmurtians is like calling all Poles Ɓowiczanie: nonsensical but certainly not an insult.

And some Ukrainian created this profile 15 years ago?

A sleeper agent. Makes sense.

amiga500
22 Aug 2023  #671

"Russkies - they have no toilets" arguments?

Well it's true. 25-35 percent. Schools too. Whats the stats in poland?

ConstantineK
22 Aug 2023  #672

You deny that the idiotic Buryat or Mongolian platoon commander massacred your fellow Slav civilians in Bucha?

I would only spoil it, commenting this turbulent stream of propaganda kliche mixed with dark sides of polish racism and unfounded arrogance.

amiga500
22 Aug 2023  #673

A sleeper agent. Makes sense.

Stop with your russophilia mental illness. I suggest ECT (electroconvulsive shock therapy.)

cms neuf
22 Aug 2023  #674

It's not trivial - Ukraine is at a crossroads - democracy, normal life and some tolerable material standards. Or follow the Soviet way of dictatorship and poverty while a small ruling class steals all their money and resources.

The toilets are a symptom of Putin failing his own people, who he considers to be serfs

Luke1410
22 Aug 2023  #675

Capitalism is pregnant with war

What was it that Marx called for again? A state of permanent revolution or something?

amiga500
22 Aug 2023  #676

Sounds like a load of BS. Hence why Marx was an unpopular in his time as the economy picked up and died an ideological outcast. Also made his best friend take a bullet and die for his infidelity. Didn't his mistress commit suicide, just like stalin wife?

Back to the topic of the thread, please.

Crnogorac3
22 Aug 2023  #677

Russia Warns Great Satan Giving F-16s to the Ukraine Will Escalate War

dailystormer.in/russia-warns-great-satan-giving-f-16s-to-the-ukraine-will-escalate-war/

This Fashion Icon Decided Finland Will Join NATO, Threaten Neighboring Russia with War

dailystormer.in/this-is-the-individual-who-decided-finland-will-join-nato-threaten-neighboring-russia/

Ironside
22 Aug 2023  #678

it is beyond my understanding the Poland's choice of allies such as the US and UK.

What is your offer? I mean if you were ruling Russia, What would it be? Exacally..

PolAmKrakow
22 Aug 2023  #679

So I see we have another retarded American, who claimed he was of Polish roots, who is arguing for the Putinazi coxuckers. This American who is not in Poland, probably not of Polish roots, who has unlikely ever been to Poland wanting to comment on things we actually see here on the ground.

Since many of us actually live in Poland, and see things happening with our own eyes, these pro Putin, pro Russian arguments were already well argued by Bobko and others. Thanks for rearguing and wasting peoples time with discussion points that were used a year ago. Now move along and let the adults talk.

Luke1410
22 Aug 2023  #680

Didn't his mistress commit suicide, just like stalin wife?

Sums it all up perfectly.

ConstantineK
22 Aug 2023  #681

What is your offer? I mean if you were ruling Russia, What would it be? Exacally..

Though, i must say, Russian Empire thrills me a lot, but deeply inside i am firm Communist. Therefore Russia and Poland, eventually must be united in some form of communist confederative state.

Ironside
22 Aug 2023  #682

Therefore Russia and Poland, eventually must be united in some form of communism state.

I see, so you are saying you the Borg #We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.#

You know that is not an offer at all, it is an ultimatum,...
So up yours!!!
and don't came back asking stupid questions any more...

Luke1410
22 Aug 2023  #683

Therefore Russia and Poland, eventually must be united in some form of communist confederative state.

You will have to destroy the RCC in Poland for this to happen.

mafketis
22 Aug 2023  #684

ussia and Poland, eventually must be united in some form of communist confederative state

who'll print up the ration cards?


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ConstantineK
22 Aug 2023  #685

I see, so you are saying you the Borg #We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships.

There are 150+ nationalities live in Russia and they are all protected. Eventually Poland will have to choose between absorbing into Germany or live alongside with Russia. Do you see any alternatives?

jon357
22 Aug 2023  #686

united in some form of communist confederative state.

Obviously the endpoint of everything is collectivism, however the world is a long way off the conditions for that, educationally, economically, socially and technologically.

r*SSia has however done everything they can to set that back, from hijacking a political system their masses didn't understand and subverting it at every point for their own imperialistic gain to allowing 'oligarchs' and other robber capitalists to behave exactly as they did there in the nineteenth century.

Russia Warns Great Satan Giving F-16s to the Ukraine Will Escalate War

The 'daily stormer'???

One minute you're bleating about neo-nazis allegedly in Ukraine, and next you're posting links to neo-nazi websites.

Make your 'mind' up, boy.

Crnogorac3
22 Aug 2023  #687

RUSSIAN HUNTERS POACH NEW TROPHIES

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/b54mgUkn6SHu/

CHERNIGOV DRONE EXPO AND NATO OFFICERS MEETING HIT BY RUSSIAN DRONES

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/dzK2VHq3r8hL/

AFU FINISHED OFF WITH DRONE GRENADE

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/Q7BjykGqPlSz/

UKROP ATGM TEAM GOT COUNTER-ATGM'D BY RUSSIAN FORCES

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/e57vdYNJHbAr/

UKRAINIAN VOLUNTEER BEGS FOR BODY BAGS FOR MANY AFU BATTALIONS

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/rkNefOOv79Ou/

THIS STORY DOESN'T END LIKE YOU THINK: WAGNERITE DESCRIBES CAPTURING POLISH MERCENARY

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/mJDz7z5SK6Re/

amiga500
22 Aug 2023  #688

Obviously the endpoint of everything is collectivism,

Or perhaps it's extreme individualism, with infinite wealth to share with each other.

If Marx was somewhat right, then so was Ayn Rand..

ConstantineK
22 Aug 2023  #689

Obviously the endpoint of everything is collectivism, however the world is a long way off the conditions for that, educationally, economically, socially and technologically.

I can only agree with you. You are absolutely right.

r*SSia has however done everything they can to set that back,

It is no true.

jon357
22 Aug 2023  #690

It is no true

It is certainly true.

Enjoy your cheap food and watch a video of oligarchs' yachts while you're eating. After all, you've paid for all that gold they have.


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