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Poland`s aid to Ukraine if Russia invades - part 7



amiga500
22 Aug 2023  #691

I can only agree with you. You are absolutely right.

Hear that, the Putinist communist nostalgic agrees with you! Time to reframe your thoughts!

Crnogorac3
22 Aug 2023  #692

ZELENSKY IS VERY ANGRY RUSSIA BOMBED HIS MERCENARY DRONE HQ - ALSO MAKES EMPTY PROMISES

WATCH

bitchute.com/video/0xIPUckrMTCJ/

Crnogorac3
22 Aug 2023  #693

Boy from Ukraine's Luhansk Affection for Russian Army

youtu.be/xA_fkln7doE

Smart kid is also cool.. he should be President of stalinist entity and would
do a much better job than the not funny genocidal zhidov.. 🤔

GefreiterKania
22 Aug 2023  #694

@Crno

Boy from UKRAINE'S Luhansk? How did that pass through censorship? xD

Anyways, if he likes Russian army so much, he should keep his fingers crossed for this war to end as soon as possible. With population lower than Java Island, Russia doesn't exactly have people to spare.

Paulina
22 Aug 2023  #695

Boy from UKRAINE'S Luhansk? How did that pass through censorship? xD

Freudian slip ;D

jon357
22 Aug 2023  #696

Ukraine's Luhansk

Yes, it certainly is Ukraine's.

pawian
22 Aug 2023  #697

But then you see the Kanias, Grunnies, Ironsides and others that shows you the Poles are not a monolith.

You mentioned the hard liner Russophiles. In the past, such guys cooperated with Russians in dismantling Poland and happily became servants to their new lords.

However, they are huge minority in Poland today so your great expectations for a change of policy towards Russia here are futile.

Ironside
22 Aug 2023  #698

Do you see any alternatives?

lots of nukes.... and before we will get them - being part of NATO and have an ample army ready..

You mentioned the hard liner Russophiles.

What are you talking about? Rubbish again, people like you are the worst they yapp, get themselves drunk on their own hysterical crap, and when the sh't hit the fan there nowhere to be found,,,,they like that not us...

shut it!

pawian
22 Aug 2023  #699

lots of nukes.... and before we will get them

Stop daydreamin, Iron. :):):)

What are you talking about?

Me??? It was Bobko who mentioned Poles who support Russia in different ways. Go and talk to him, not me.

shut it!

What about your mute button??? :):):):)

GefreiterKania
22 Aug 2023  #700

You mentioned the hard liner Russophiles.

Bobko mentioned three Poles actually living in Poland. Apart from us there is Paulina and you (unless I forgot someone).

So, according to you, 60% of PF's Poles living in Poland are hardliner Russophiles. xD

In the past, such guys cooperated with Russians in dismantling Poland

In the past such guys lifted and rebuilt Poland from post-war destruction, built schools, hospitals and factories, eradicated illiteracy and did a lot of other things that made life, study and work in Poland possible.

pawian
22 Aug 2023  #701

Apart from us there is Paulina and you (unless I forgot someone).

Yes, you forgot a few posters who are taking longer breaks: e.g, gumishu, Ziemowit.....

In the past such guys

I was talking about partitions - Targowica traitors and then the russification period, shown in Syzyfowe Prace book.

60% of PF's Poles living in Poland are hardliner Russophiles. xD

Experts on statistics would frown at your methods. :):):)

Crnogorac3
22 Aug 2023  #702

In the past, such guys cooperated with Russians in dismantling Poland and happily became servants to their new lords.

Whenever the Polish government carried out acts that were harmful to Russia in the past it usually backfired and resulted with terrible consequences for Poland as a state and the Polish people as well.

Perhaps these people like Kania, Iron and Grunni learned something from history and don't want to repeat the same mistakes? Unlike you Nato and EU fanatics they put the interests of Poland first.

GefreiterKania
22 Aug 2023  #703

gumishu, Ziemowit

Still, the percentage of "hardliner Russophiles" is quite high. :)

I was talking about partitions

Yes, I forgot you like to go back very far in history (like connecting Volyn genocide to Bolesław Chrobry's conquest etc.). :)

Experts (...) would frown at your methods

And I would frown right back at them. Statistics-schmatistics.

pawian
22 Aug 2023  #704

resulted with terrible consequences for Poland

The terrible result of the Polish Bolshevik 1920 war was that we retained our newly regained independence. hahaha

Perhaps these people like Kania, Iron and Grunni learned something from history

And when Russians invade and conquer Poland, they will be the most loyal servants to occupiers. Yes, Polish history is full of such traitors.

. Statistics-schmatistics.

You re commenting on your own statistics. :):):) While I based my Russophile percentage in Poland on my actual experiences and life here.

GefreiterKania
22 Aug 2023  #705

And when Russians invade and conquer Poland, they will be the most loyal servants to occupiers.

I know that, technically, you are not an idiot. You do however say a staggering number of idiotic things.

my actual experiences and life here

Life in your PiS-supporting village perhaps but not Poland in general. Konfederacja is a blatantly pro-Russian party and they get about 12% in opinion polls and roughly twice as much among young voters. And this with all the anti-Russian propaganda everywhere! So maybe, just maybe, the true Slavic spirits reawakens in the land of Piast he he :)

pawian
22 Aug 2023  #706

You do however say

I say what happened in the history. E.g, 19th century. Guys who openly opposed Russians were sent to Siberia or ended on the gallows. Guys who supported Russia were allowed to work, make good money and careers.

Crnogorac3
22 Aug 2023  #707

And when Russians invade and conquer Poland,

What reason would the Russians have to invade Poland? They already have more land than they know what to do with, and Poland doesn't exactly have the natural resources to make such a venture enterprising. The costs by far outweigh the rewards. Also Poland doesn't have a sizable Russian minority that it can opress (ban Russian language in schools, ban Cyrillic alphabet etc).

pawian
22 Aug 2023  #708

They already have more land then they know what to do with

Russia is the last empire in the world. All empires have to expand if they want to survive - such a law.

Poland doesn't exactly have the natural resources

Don`t be silly. The Russian greed for Poland has never been about resources. We are the direct and easy passage to Western Europe. Simple.

The costs by far outweigh the rewards.

hohohoho hahahahaha

GefreiterKania
22 Aug 2023  #709

19th century. Guys who supported Russia

Opportunists and careerists back then. They would have done exactly the same thing under Germans, Americans or Eskimos. Hardly a good comparison to pro-Russian Poles today. With all the hatred towards them spewing from the sewers of politics and journalism, and with either pro-American or pro-Brussels parties in power.

Today's Russophiles are anything but opportunists. They are against the current rulers, overlords and political fashion. They are persecuted, have their websites blocked (Najwyższy Czas, Myśl Polska) and their voices suppressed or ridiculed.

pawian
22 Aug 2023  #710

Konfederacja is a blatantly pro-Russian party and they get about 12%

Let`s wait for the election day. :):):)

Bobko or Velund would want to live in the same country with russophobes such as you or Paulina?

:):):) Bobko and Velund wouldn`t live in occupied Poland with us coz me and Paulina would be gone - either thrown into a mass grave after a mass execution or sent to a Russian reeducation camp.

Today's Russophiles are anything but opportunists.

But they would become ones if Russians occupied Poland! Ha!

cms neuf
22 Aug 2023  #711

Crno they have already threatened to bomb and invade Poland this year. I don't know what their reasons are, and honestly I don't care. I just know that Udmurtians enjoy threatening us and other peaceful countries, especially after they had a night ploughing through a liter of gut rot vodka

GefreiterKania
22 Aug 2023  #712

But they would become ones if Russians occupied Poland! Ha!

You don't know that. Polish communists were often executed by the Soviets and fascist ONR activists chased down and killed by Gestapo. Poland is a complicated country.

So, if you like to denigrate and insult opportunists and careerists, you will find a lot of them among both PiS supporters and uncritical EU-enthusiasts; no need to pick on the minority of Russophiles - honest, simple Slavic souls. :)

they have already threatened to bomb and invade Poland this year

It's Russians!!! It's how they show affection!

Geez, guys... one has to explain everything to you as if you were children. :-/

pawian
22 Aug 2023  #713

no need to pick on the minority of Russophiles - honest, simple Slavic souls.

I can`t resist. Those Russophiles are very suspicious people to me.

It's Russians!!! It's how they show affection!

Your idea of showing affection is a bit distorted. Do you show affection to your family by threatening you will kill them one day???? You don`t. But Russians do this constantly to their Slavic family members.

Fekk all imperialist Russians and their supporters!!!

Long live decent Russians who reject imperialism and their supporters!!!

cms neuf
22 Aug 2023  #714

1441 - voted for also by Udmurtia

Can you tell me the legal basis for Udmurtia invading Poland in 1939 ?

jon357
22 Aug 2023  #715

Since when Poland had long tradition of democracy

A few centuries. r*SSia? Never.

Bucha, mass shooting in head, no toilets

All of those are cold hard facts.

mafketis
22 Aug 2023  #716

russian soldiers don't believe in the cause? say it isn't so....

Anyhoo, here's a video of some russian soldiers getting high (quite possibly the same later being taken prisoner)

twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1693807614151237955

Korvinus
23 Aug 2023  #717

Eventually Poland will have to choose between absorbing into Germany or live alongside with Russia. Do you see any alternatives?

We choose freedom. That is what NATO is for.
If Ukraine joined NATO and EU when it could - like Baltic States, Poland, Czechs, Slovaks, etc - there would be no war. Russia isn't invading Latvia or Estonia. It's invading whatever it can get away with - meaning the less smart countries that haven't managed to get into NATO in time (like Georgia and Ukraine).

Tt's not that Russia fears NATO defences of Estonia, forces deployed there are relatively weak. What Russia fears is NATO's retaliation after such an attack and NATO taking Estonia back while destroying Russian invasion force.

Since when Poland had long tradition of democracy?

Casimir IV was the king who granted the nobility a set of priviliges that later, during the reign of his children, especially Sigismund I, became the foundation of nobility democracy.

Basically 8-10% of the population co-ruled Poland by electing their representatives to the Parliament composed of two Houses.

At the same time Russian Ivans (III and IV) were murdering nobility to institute autocratic rule.

Being able to vote for a candidate of one's choosing is a freedom Russians simply do not have. Even an Africa-born president chosen by the people would be much better than a Kremlin nominated satrap.

cms neuf
23 Aug 2023  #718

It is Udmurtia who must make the choice - overthrow their leaders and join the modern world, or comtinue living like peasants with no toilets, reliant on a few crumbs from China and Iran and Uganda.

Speaking of which I see the BRICS summit is going well LOL.

Luke1410
23 Aug 2023  #719

podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/80-morning-missiles-in-kyiv/id1617276298?i=1000625330087

Latest podcast from Battleground:Ukraine, interview with an American volunteer in Ukrainian army.

Luke1410
23 Aug 2023  #720

It's Russians!!! It's how they show affection!

Could somebody please give this **** some Russian affection!


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